Re: How would you act if given absolute power over an alien civilization?

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jakeyjakey

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This thread is inspired by an old thread I made about whether or not it is wrong to step on bugs, but with a different subject. There is an episode of the Twilight Zone called the Little People where a couple astronauts get stranded on a distant planet and while repairing their ship, they stumble upon a race of tiny humans a who are sophisticated enough to build houses, boats, trucks, cities, and appear in all aspects to be identical to the humans in every way except their size. You can probably guess what happens next.

An alien version of Conrad's Heart of Darkness. One of the astronauts decides he's going to be their God and begins to dominate the little people through fear and cruelty, based on no godly qualities except the advantage of having evolved to be massively bigger than them. It was a cool episode.

Anyway, what's interesting and possibly shocking to some, is I don't think I'd act very differently from that guy in his circumstance. I could see myself becoming a tyrant to them and enjoy every second of it. If I somehow came across a planet of tiny little aliens that were the size of ants to me, I don' think I'd have much of a problem with crushing a few of their towns, provided that that no one (or at least no one who mattered) would find out or try to punish me for it. I'd actually think it's hard to blame a guy like me for taking advantage of the size difference. I would love the chance to be revered as a god, even if I'd very much be an old testament god. Well, except that instead of meting out discipline with lightning, I'd be tyrannizing the little aliens with nothing but my giant stinking feet. Heck, who knows; I run competitively so maybe the smell of my feet alone could terrorize them. If they needed me to press a giant sneaker-shaped footprint in the middle of their capital to remind them to worship me, then that's fine. Actually, I'd probably do that anyway.

Here is where you may disagree, but to me it seems like nature taking its course and I don't think I can fault some giant alien who came to Earth doing this either. In the immediate moment he's planting a huge foot down on NYC, I'd probably think the alien was a giant jerk, but looking at the big picture, I know I'd be too insignificant to this being to even get his attention, much less communicate in any meaningful way. And does Godzilla care about the humans he steps on? Besides, I already step on bugs all the time, often purposely.

In spite of what I'd do in the above situation, I wouldn't consider myself to be evil, immoral, or unethical. Rather, I'm generally considered to be an all-around great guy by friends and coworkers. I help people all the time for nothing in return, have donated to charities, given people rides, and I even volunteer as an EMT when I can. I run competitively, coach track for no pay. I've never been arrested, vandalized property, or wanted to hurt anyone.

What do you think of the behavior I described? How would you behave when in a situation where you gain absolute power over others? Would you be kind or cruel? Or would you walk away from the situation? Try to stay respectful of one another!
 

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Wow that was.... illuminating. You certainly have shown us your personality there. Thanks... I guess?
 
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Probably just leave them alone. I have no interest in dominating or ruling, especially as the massive power imbalance in my favour would make me feel guilty, and who knows if my attempts to hep would make things better or worse. What if I try to bring them food and end up poisoning them all? Better to just leave them and watch, see what they do of their own accord
 

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I'm not sure there's any point getting tiny creatures to worship you if all they can offer is tiny worship.
 

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Baffle2 said:
I'm not sure there's any point getting tiny creatures to worship you if all they can offer is tiny worship.
The whole thing comes across as completely creepy to me. Why would anyone want to be worshipped in the first place? I have had guys do the whole put me on a pedestal thing and it was creepy as F and made me run like I was set on fire. Why would anyone want lots of people doing that to them? It is awful, even worse is the idea that you would want to force them to do this out of fear rather than them genuinely caring for you. True adoration is having many people care for you because they want to not because they are terrified of you. This scenario of bullying them because they are small and wanting them to be afraid of you is disturbing tbh, like a giant terrorist. Why would you want anyone or anything to be afraid of you? That is sadistic as hell. None of this sounds fun or enjoyable at all, but instead feels more nauseating and grotesque that anyone would want to do those things at all tbh.

Palindromemordnilap said:
Probably just leave them alone. I have no interest in dominating or ruling, especially as the massive power imbalance in my favour would make me feel guilty, and who knows if my attempts to hep would make things better or worse. What if I try to bring them food and end up poisoning them all? Better to just leave them and watch, see what they do of their own accord
Yea I feel the same, I wouldn't want to cause them harm. If there was something I could do for them specifically, sure I might as long as they were involved with the planning, and have it well thought out,for example, helping them gain access to water or something that could be life saving, but outside of that, I wouldn't want to disturb them.
 

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Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I'd imagine I'd start off trying to be a good ruler, but get lazy.

Unless they are just obeying me due to fear, in which case, unless there was something really wrong with their society, I'd go away and leave them to it.
 

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I would eat them. Yum yum, delicious little fools. Probably in one go, when fellow bears aren't looking. Maybe even trick them into walking on to a prepared plate of gravy and veg. It would be considered a mercy. To my taste buds at least. Or should they be cooked first? Nah, it'll be fine. Have eaten worse. Could claim the salt being showered on them as "spirit crystals" for "enlightenment" and the gravy as "healing waters" for...umm, "heeaaaaling." The veg can be "the moistening forests of introspection" that produce the "healing waters" through processes they are never to understand. It'll be fun for everyone. And tasty. Hopefully they're not too poisonous or overly hallucinogenic though. Wouldn't want any karmic justice getting in the way of a nutritious genocidal meal.
 

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...Well, now I'm a bit creeped out by some of the responses here. I'd just leave them alone, though curiosity might keep me coming back...
 
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This brings me to my best takes on God.

And of course, it involves Bender [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL7e05pClKM].

I'm not a God. I never, ever wanted to be God, even when I was taken to Church every weekend. That doesn't mean I don't want to help. Helping is in my nature.

But helping as a God makes people grow weak, dependent. But that involves Magic. Superman can probably solve all the world's problems. So why try or do anything when you can clasp your hands and your solution is magically whisked to you?

If I saw a dam break, I would do what I can to help. If there was an attack by a beast, I would protect the civilization. Because that's what I do now. The five dollars I donate every time wegmans ask me to feed a family somewhere doesn't solve all their issues. But that doesn't prevent me from giving. The idea of "The meal I can help provide them won't solve all their issues, so why do it in the first place" doesn't make sense to me.

But I can not bring their dead back to life. I can not create infinite amounts of food. At best, all I'd ever be is a Benevolent Kaiju.

On a different Topic, I'm going to start a Drum and Bass/Hipp-Hop group named 'Benevolent Kaijus'. Anyone want in?
 

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ObsidianJones said:
On a different Topic, I'm going to start a Drum and Bass/Hipp-Hop group named 'Benevolent Kaijus'. Anyone want in?
Yes!

Not sure how much "in" there is to go around, but I can most certainly hip and/or hop the drum and/or bass better than the average woodland bear and will fight anyone to the death for this position if deemed necessary. Am lacking on Kaiju suits however.

Will also fight anyone to the death for their Kaiju suit.

If deemed necessary.
 

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Arw the women roughly human size and conventionaly out of my leage? I start there
 

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Well, as to the behavior you described, I'm reminded of an old adage: Someone who is nice to you but rude to the waiter is not a nice person.
 

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If I have the power to actually help them, then I will help them, but I'd like to think that adoration and worship would not go to my head for doing so... at least not right away.

I could see it getting to some people, especially if, in a narrative wherein the protagonist is taken or otherwise must go to this world/realm (like in your analogy), and that in the former, likely mundane world, feeling unloved, treated like shit, etc., then with godlike power, either rejecting that model of behavior that was shown to them in their former life... or instinctively embracing it.

Like, "I was just a shmuck who everyone looked down on and despised, until I became a god in another world, and was just" a) "happy to feel needed." or b) "ruled them with an iron fist!".
 

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Probably live apart from them if I could. Maybe help them out for some of their tiny technology? I think it'd be pretty tough for them to support me with the massive size difference, not really sure what I'd eat in that situation.

As I said in your last thread, I don't kill. That's still true 4 years later.
jakeyjakey said:
What do you think of the behavior I described?
Off the cuff, I'm thinking sociopathic tendencies?
 

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Now... being evil and destructive or dominatey or the like isn't my kind of thing. I'd probably be the kind who would be careful not to harm anyone as much as possible, or even help them if I can.

But unfortunately, stories and images of a larger one rampaging on or dominating over a smaller one is... surprisingly common. Even though many here are saying they are nice, there is unfortunately a large amount who like that kind of thing. Believe me.
 

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Nature taking its course? BS. You're human. If you don't try to start in a more friendly and mutually beneficial way, the blame is on you and your thinking, not on nature. They'd probably have enough problems as they are without having to endure the jakeypocalipse.

PS: I don't think Godzilla is a good role model tbh.
 

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I'd draw dicks in the sand a la the Nazca lines and make other random dick shaped artifacts for future generations of tiny aliens to find, eventually they'll invent TV and have their own "aliens" guy.

Edit: apparently they already have trucks and shit, so they probably have TVs too. Well, they can always film me drawing dicks in the sand and upload it to youtube.
 

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Kind of depends I guess. Am I also immortal or at least comparatively long-lived enough that many of their generations could pass within my lifetime?

If yes, then I would go easy on them for the first century. Then BAM! Full-blown tyrant for the next millenium or so. Then I'd disappear for a few thousand years until people start wondering whether I was ever real to begin with, only to suddenly return and destroy them all.

[small]Inb4 someone. No, it's not a serious answer. Yes, I stole that from DBZA Freeza. Whatcha gonna do about it? Come at me bro![/small]
 

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evilthecat said:
So, eh..

You do know that episode is sort of about fascism..
And he kinda forgot it ended with a giant spaceman suddenly arriving and crushing the protagonist to death...



Gotta love the ironic endings in the Twilight Zone.