'Real' Dubstep

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asacatman

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I put the real in quotation marks because it's obviously a subjective thing, although I think my definition of dubstep makes the most sense. This thread was born out of another one discussing the genre, which was full of misconceptions.

Dubstep grew out of a scene in south london combining elements of uk garage, 2-step and dub. It's charactaristics are sub bass (not that skillrex grimy sound, sub bass, the kind you need a sub woofer to hear properly), a synchopated 2 step rythmn (not the deadmaus/skillrex four to the floor dance beat.) and dissonant melody (not, again, the melodic techno sounds of skillrex ect.)

I think the sound, spearheaded by skillrex, which is called 'brostep' by those who want to differentiate, is not really what the genre was originally about, and it's an insult to the pioneers of the sound to associate them with their commercial offspring.

Now some examples:
Digital mystickz, one of the originators of the genre. Notice there's not a noticable drop or wob wob bass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mOIXdC4rgA

Here's one by benga. The bass sounds closer to brostep, but there's no hint of a melody or a drop, it's all very dissonant. (I personally don't like this style.):http://www.youtube.com/watchv=yNoj2Y0iHxw&feature=related

I have to throw in some burial. It doesn't have all the things I mention that should be in dubstep, but this music is so good, and it's nothing like brostep, so it's a good indicator of where the south london sound leads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ijVnXIWBk

I have nothing against brostep (other than thinking it sounds kind of stupid :p) and I know the names of things shouldn't matter, but it's just annoying seeing a british thing being taken over by an inferior (ok, it's only inferior in my opinion.) american counterpart, and no one seeing the two things as different.
 

W8NKA

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To call dubstep a real genre is insulting to music. Just my opion thats all.

Though i also hate it when the americans ruin stuff. eg torchwood.
 

Dr Pussymagnet

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It isn't the kind of music I'd ever listen to on my iPod, but if I'm at a club when some dubstep comes on, I'm gonna fucking get down.
 

weker

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Really there is such a thing as real "Dubstep", Personally it's only a few inches from just being noise, and is barely music half the time.
 

TomLikesGuitar

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asacatman said:
You are making dubstep look bad.

You're like the metal heads who jump at you for calling black-metal "death-metal".

Just chill out. It's all dubstep.
 

TerribleAssassin

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Proper dubstep is the stuff you could only really get on 7" vinyls between 2000-2009, it annoys me when I see so many little dipshits comment on a Jamie xx track (ok, it's not old-school, but it's basically an updated version) saying it's not dubstep because it doesn't have about 90 layered modern talking synths.
 

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TerribleAssassin said:
Proper dubstep is the stuff you could only really get on 7" vinyls between 2000-2009,
That's the most hipster thing I've ever read in my life. Lol.
 
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Heheh, I love that comic.

OT: I actually like dubstep when it's 'done properly', i.e., not wubwubwubwub for three minutes.
 

anthony87

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W8NKA said:
To call dubstep a real genre is insulting to music. Just my opion thats all.

Though i also hate it when the americans ruin stuff. eg torchwood.
....There's an American Torchwood? Surely it can't be as bad as American Shameless or American Skins can it?
 

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TomLikesGuitar said:
TerribleAssassin said:
Proper dubstep is the stuff you could only really get on 7" vinyls between 2000-2009,
That's the most hipster thing I've ever read in my life. Lol.
If you have a problem, please address it properly and not be an immature arse who cannot deal with their problems.

Good day sir.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Heheh, I love that comic.

OT: I actually like dubstep when it's 'done properly', i.e., not wubwubwubwub for three minutes.
I love that comic! I used to have it as my wallpaper because someone sent me it saying that it reminded him of me.


OT: I like all sorts of dubstep. I suppose their are new "subgenres" like brostep or whatever you want to call it, but I don't care. I'm happy to differentiate between house, dubstep, rock or whatever, but when you start getting down into the really fine details your just being picky.

Also, to all the people saying dubstep is just noise, or not real music, cut it out. You don't like it, fine, not everyone will, but don't completely dismiss it because of your own tastes. I wouldn't go into a death metal thread and start shouting about how it sucks and is just noise. If that's what you want to listen to fine.
 

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Combine Rustler said:
Well, I like The State and Spitfire from Porter Robinson.
I don't listen to dubstep otherwise.

But I must drop this here. (is music thread, after all)
Never heard that one.

I've always been a big fan of Ecstasy of Gold though.
 

JesterRaiin

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Sooooooooooo...
Yet another thread regarding genre that's supposedly non existent. :)

Remember guys : if it's on YT - it's not hipster/niche/elitistic enough. ;)

http://soundcloud.com/quacky-1/quacky-creation
http://soundcloud.com/sokos-1/sokos-si-a-w-basie-ty-kutasie
http://soundcloud.com/savinglivez/cpt-carnage-jeba-acta-kurwa
 

Xaio30

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People are just pulling something out of their asses these days and calls it a new genre.
I'm tired of it.
 

ChaoticKraus

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Seriously... Bro-step? Thats probably the douchiest term i ever heard in my entire life. Just because a genre you liked evolved and became popular doesn't mean you have to go elitist and scream about how it isn't real deal.
 

Smooth Operator

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This is just hilarious, do kids now rename techno on a daily basis?
Then again I probably went through 3-5 renames of the same electro pounding when I was going to clubs.
 

tacotrainwreck

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Think of 'bro-step' as hair metal or nu-metal. Give it some time, let the pop culture stuff wash over it for a bit, and when it's forgotten by the mainstream, it will probably get cool again.