Really deep and complicated question

[TonyVonTonyus]

Ok, I thought of this really deep and complicated question (well in my opinion anyways). Now I'm absolutely certain I'll never get the right answer yet I continue to ask myself the question and anyone I ask usually freak out at the complexity or just refuses to acknolwedge the question as being serious.

At one point there had to be NOTHING in the universe at all because nothing had been created yet. There were no stars, planets of anything. There was no light because there was nothing to create it. There were no molecules or atoms or anything smaller. Now if there was nothing at all and we obviously have a universe now something must have been created. But if all there is is nothing, how do you make something?

 

[PatSilverFox]

How do you know there wasn't always something?
You assume there was a nothing which can be completely wrong.

 

[Woodsey]

Why would there have had to have been nothing?

 

[TimeLord]

In before God.

How do you know that there was nothing? The universe could be the oldest thing in existence and have existed continuously forever.

 

[Dana22]

In before God.

In before Singularity ?

 

[Jonny49]

Is true nothingness even possible?

 

[wolf thing]

im going with all the scientist answer which is "we just dont know"

 

[Kreett]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw9L0EAZ8Tc&feature=related
Basicly...

 

[GundamSentinel]

Ever heard of string theory? Colliding branes? There wasn't nothing, there just wasn't anything our brains could quantify. Hell, 'there' wasn't even there. Of course, that's all theory. We can't know it, we weren't there.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

You assume because there is no "creator", there must have been nothing there. That is the first fallacy, as nothing in this universe explicitly demands there to have been a "creator" to have brought it all into being.

What if there was something there already that had been recycled from another universe that just become as our will eventually as well?

Also, shouldn't this be in Religion/Politics?

 

[HerbertTheHamster]

Singularity. Time started to exist basically.

Everything doesn't need to be created by something, ya know.

 

[TimeLord]

In before God.

In before Singularity ?

Touché *tips hat*

 

[Tulks]

The "first" matter in the universe was sent back in time by the dinosaurs.

 

[The .50 Caliber Cow]

There was always something. It just appeared to be nothing.

 

[thiosk]

It boggles the mind. There are theories set to deal with it. Specifically concepts including the big bang, M theory, and the multiverse attempt to work on this.

The big monkey wrench is that the big bang didn't necessarily have to happen at all. The big bang is an extrapolation of data; M theory does away with the whole concept of the big bang and provides a (rather difficult to comprehend) mechanism for the appearance of matter. Sounds more like an episode of Fringe, with colliding dimensions and what not.

I suspect LHC experiments will reveal everything is not as currently theorized over the next 10 years.

 

[0_Insomnis_0]

In before God.

In before Singularity ?

I was going to say the exact same thing. Hawking theorized that there wasn't nothing. There was energy in the form of subatomic particles. Higgs Boson (God Particle) and the like.

 

[smearyllama]

Ever heard of string theory? Colliding branes? There wasn't nothing, there just wasn't anything our brains could quantify. Hell, 'there' wasn't even there. Of course, that's all theory. We can't know it, we weren't there.

...
But we couldn't be there, since there wasn't a "there"...
*Head Explodes From Thought*

 

[Canid117]

chaos != nothing