Region locking is disgusting and even more so is trying to enforce it legally.

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LilithSlave

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This is one of the worst, most immoral things about copyright law.

People say that violating Copyright laws is equal to stealing? It is not. And this is one of the worst example of why.

Importing and selling import games is practically illegal. And lots of measures are taken against it. This makes me bitter as a big fan of Asian games. There are times that I have almost wanted to boycott consoles and games in a way that I thought could bring and end to this, especially since there are games specific to regions.

You see, Region codes are stupid and immoral. They serve almost not purpose other than to look pointlessly fascist. Furthermore, companies have the audacity to try to put their copyright claims on arcade games and shutting down companies that sell import games.

This is worse than the used games fiasco current going on. This is treating people who just want to play games made in another country and never given the grace of localization, like criminals, like pirates.

Gaming companies can be stupid about so, very many things. Things that should not be violating of any law, is not anything like stealing, and they should not want to or be within their rights to do. You can't pirate, but you can't buy used, you can't share offline, you can't mod, you can't import, and if your father is a judge, you'll beat you if you download them. And not forgetting the age of DRM; Securom and endless codes and the like.

Does one ever get the feeling that game companies sometimes, just pointlessly hate their customers, no matter if they're Japanese, Korean, American, European, or Australian? I have to wonder what Nintendo thinks of me for having imported a Japanese Wii, 3DS, and even consoles like the Super Famicom, surely not good. Despite the fact I'm giving them money.'

It's like they want me to be bitter. It's like they want me, as an American, to fetishize European and Asian versions of games. Because as a product of this, that's what they feel like to me, some kind of esoteric, high quality forbidden treasure. Something special that doesn't belong in my hands and I should treat like mana from the heavens. This is helped to exist because of region locking, I don't get near as excited over a localized game than some import game in a foreign language. This isn't just Asiaphilia, because of things like this, I'd treat a German copy of Oblivion with much more value than an English version. Imported things are just precious, precious to me. And region codes don't help. At all.

Sorry, you can blame me of being an import fetishizing weirdo now. I just had to get this off my chest. I hate the feeling like I'm doing no better than pirating each time I import a game or movie or something.

Anyone else feel as frustrated as me about region codes? This is also a great time to rant about issues related to Project Rainfall, and that Nintendo has the sheer idiocy within them to not only ignore Project Rainfall, but to region lock their handheld, the Nintendo 3DS. What the fudge, Nintendo? What. The. Fudge. First Mother 3, then Project Rainfall, now this. Now I'm going to have to buy two versions of the 3DS to play all the games even half legally.
 

SidingWithTheEnemy

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I agree whole heartedly.

But pray do tell me why oh why do you try to get a GERMAN version of OBLIVION? I'm trying to get ENGLISH (American) versions here in Europe and not those shitty and horrible synchronized German ones and it's quite a pain in the arse...
 

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LilithSlave said:
You see, Region codes are stupid and immoral. They serve almost not purpose other than to look pointlessly fascist. Furthermore, companies have the audacity to try to put their copyright claims on arcade games and shutting down companies that sell import games.
Can you give examples of this.

They do have a reason though. Games aren't attractive to localization companies if they aren't region locked. Companies will generally remove a region lock if they think the game is unmarketable to be otherwise sold outside of the country. Also the region locking is used so that games can be sold at different prices in different countries. It's not pointless but it is annoying.
 

cgentero

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Region locking is a violation of anti-trust laws, but no one is going to enforce it.
 

Hazy992

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At least the PS3 isn't region locked. Well for PS3 games anyway ^_^

But yeah couldn't agree more. A good example from days gone by is the way Sega handled the Saturn. It's like they WANTED the Saturn to fail outside of Japan, and now if I want to get all the amazing games for it I have to spend like £30 getting a 4 in 1 card and then import the games. Why couldn't they have just localised them?

Rant over!
 

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LilithSlave said:
Anyone else feel as frustrated as me about region codes? This is also a great time to rant about issues related to Project Rainfall, and that Nintendo has the sheer idiocy within them to not only ignore Project Rainfall, but to region lock their handheld, the Nintendo 3DS. What the fudge, Nintendo? What. The. Fudge. First Mother 3, then Project Rainfall, now this. Now I'm going to have to buy two versions of the 3DS to play all the games even half legally.
The only sheer idiocy surrounding that is the Project Rainfall people themselves. If I was Nintendo, I'd ignore a bunch of loons who think buying Square Enix games shows support for me too. Especially when there are so few of said loons, which pretty much proves their point that there aren't enough people willing to buy the game to make it worth their time and money to localize them.

As for the rest of your post, it would actually help if you made some real points about region locking instead of just basically whining that it's unfair because you have to spend more money on that region's system, making irrelevant references to copyright law, and calling the locks "fascist", which makes absolutely no sense when you stop for a moment and remember what fascist actually means.

Really, just go get a PS3. Problem solved.

Halo Fanboy said:
They do have a reason though. Games aren't attractive to localization companies if they aren't region locked. Companies will generally remove a region lock if they think the game is unmarketable to be otherwise sold outside of the country. Also the region locking is used so that games can be sold at different prices in different countries. It's not pointless but it is annoying.
No they're just pointless and fascist and I hate them! Stop using logic!
 

kaioshade

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If a company has no intention on releasing games outside of their region, there should be no reason to region lock the game. I try to support companies, but when they make it impossible for me to support them legally, this is why people pirate stuff. Which is why Rising Star games will get every single penny i have for games, as they actually have a clue and localize things, AND make it region free. they have earned my business.

If you want region locks to go away, you need to put your money where your mouth is. Support companies that have region free releases, and do not support the companies who engage in such practices.
 

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Sober Thal said:
Sounds like someone doesn't like to pay local taxes...

"Why don't ya just take it from me, Self Entitled is the way to be!" -Sober Thal
And games that are never released in your country? Just not play them? Or mod your system?
 

MammothBlade

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It is enforced discriminatory pricing, a cartelisation of the DVD and games market in general. The people who lose out are the consumers. For all that I hate the WTO and EU, they should at least do something f**king right and ban region locking.
 

zehydra

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"Region codes are stupid and immoral."

haha, what? I agree that Region codes are unnecessary, but immoral? What?

There's something immoral about not letting people from a specific country have your game?
 

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LilithSlave said:
Look, pal, I wouldn't even bother around here.

Sober Thal said:
Sounds like someone doesn't like to pay local taxes...

"Why don't ya just take it from me, Self Entitled is the way to be!" -Sober Thal
*EDIT: /sarcasm ^^

Reasons for Region Locking:

Pricing. It is difficult to maintain a single pricing structure that can be applied worldwide. Region-locking a console means that there is no need for pricing parity across the world; different territories can have different prices for games without people simply shopping "wherever is cheaper".

Sensitive regions. Some games could be regarded as offensive for religious or political reasons, and regional lockout may be required to prevent these games from being distributed in sensitive countries.

Staged launches. If a console is region-locked, then staged launches of the games would be easier, as console producers could easily control the huge bow-wave of people wanting a game the moment it is released.

-wiki

Also, remember: It is up to the publisher if a game is region free or not. As some consoles don't have the locks.
You shouldn't be making snarky insults, bud, thinly veiled as they are.
If you, as a consumer, think that those are good things then I'd very much like to know why. I don't want a wiki answer, I want your opinion.

I think the points put forth in your initial post are thin and damaging to the consumer. If that's the best the entertainment industry has got then I see no reason why disagreeing with it, given reasons such as the OP's, is to be met with disdain.

Also, once again, there's no need to be a duck about it.
 

KaiusCormere

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I agree with this actually. It's unreasonable for a company to restrict it's products from working for the sake of enforcing a pricing structure.

If they want to charge $10 USD equivalent in Russia then I ought to be able to import from there via private means. It means that the prices elsewhere are artificially too high.
 

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LilithSlave said:
This is one of the worst, most immoral things about copyright law.
Except Region Codes have nothing to do with copyright law.


You see, Region codes are stupid and immoral.
The Australian courts agree with you. They consider region coding to be a restrictive trade practice that disadvantages the consumer... so modding/firmware hacking your gadgets to circumvent region coding is okay with them.
 

Supertegwyn

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I don't like Region locking but it is FAR from immoral. I hope you realize that there are more pressing matters in the world than region locking.

Your post is full of whining.
 

KaiusCormere

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Supertegwyn said:
I don't like Region locking but it is FAR from immoral. I hope you realize that there are more pressing matters in the world than region locking.

Your post is full of whining.
This is not a legit argument, just a logical fallacy. There's worse things, so this isn't bad?

If it's not important to you, don't post. In fact, don't even reply.