School Rules

[jadestarboo]

I know rules are made for a reason, but recently someone close to me was seriously considering suicide and I was desperate to get help for them. I told a trusted teacher of mine (which I regret terribly) who reported to their counselor, who reported it to the principal.

This ended up having them nearly suspended from school because the principal said that were a threat to our school. The only way out of suspension was to hire a professional therapist. They were just one week from graduating too!

So, anybody here goes to school (or used to) and found a rule simply unreasonable?
What would you do to change it?

 

[CrysisMcGee]

This has been a serious problem with the "No tolerance" Bullshit people spread around.
I've read so many stories of schools not following THE LAW, and just doing what they damn well please in the name of "Zero Tolerance"

Somebody actualy got suspended for carrying a 2 inch knife in their vehicle.

As for this case, counseling would be the best option. Or, as a friend, find out why he is doing it.

But suspending isn't going to help anything. He needs help, and people close to him.

 

[jadestarboo]

Well, that is shit.
No, I don't have any.

Did the schopol meet the kid about it or just send hima letter?

Haha, yeah, it was shit.
They met him face to face, sat him down and told him that he's going to have to get a therapist or else he's not going to graduate.

 

[Timotei]

My school has just recently enacted a rule that warrants suspension or expulsion for those caught having sex on campus.

The problem was that the policy was apparently written by an ultra-conservative that would make Glenn Beck look like a hippy, because they also included in the clause:

NO:
-Touching
-Hand holding
-Kissing
-Hugging
-Being within close proximity

Any of those above are considered offenses and will warrant referrals. I foresee this policy being modified within the next few months because of just how unenforceable this policy really is.

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

I know rules are made for a reason, but recently someone close to me was seriously considering suicide and I was desperate to get help for them. I told a trusted teacher of mine (which I regret terribly) who reported to their counselor, who reported it to the principal.

This ended up having them nearly suspended from school because the principal said that were a threat to our school. The only way out of suspension was to hire a professional therapist. They were just one week from graduating too!

So, anybody here goes to school (or used to) and found a rule simply unreasonable?
What would you do to change it?

Did you spit in that teacher's ***** face?

 

[xHipaboo420x]

From an entirely objective point of view, I can see the principal's reasoning behind his/her actions. There have been several high-profile cases where a depressed student has taken a rash decision too far, and seriously fucked things up for everyone involved.

Having said that, their handling of the situation does seem a little unsympathetic.

 

[wolfgamesstudios]

my friend once wrote a fake love letter, and nothing sexual or vulgar, just an honest, funny one for a kid who actually DID like the girl, and when the teachers found him they called the cops and nearly got him expelled. i mean, wtf? a little over the top much?

 

[NotAPie]

My middle school didn't let us call from our cell phones until we were like 3 blocks away from the school.
My god was that is fucking retarded.

 

[jadestarboo]

From an entirely objective point of view, I can see the principal's reasoning behind his/her actions. There have been several high-profile cases where a depressed student has taken a rash decision too far, and seriously fucked things up for everyone involved.

Having said that, their handling of the situation does seem a little unsympathetic.

Yeah, I can see what you mean, and it does make sense.
Either way they're playing with fire, suspending a depressed student may just make it worse. It makes me sad that there was no sympathy for him.

Come to think of it, it seems their only solution was to kick him out. Makes me wonder if they even tried to solve it another way.

 

[magnuslion]

My school has just recently enacted a rule that warrants suspension or expulsion for those caught having sex on campus.

The problem was that the policy was apparently written by an ultra-conservative that would make Glenn Beck look like a hippy, because they also included in the clause:

NO:
-Touching
-Hand holding
-Kissing
-Hugging
-Being within close proximity

Any of those above are considered offenses and will warrant referrals. I foresee this policy being modified within the next few months because of just how unenforceable this policy really is.

wow. that is some colossal BS. that is so far beyond the conservative pale that rush Limbaugh couldn't spot it with the Hubble telescope. this is what happens when retards are allowed the right to vote or have their opinions heard. and it was most likely written by a retard who never had a bf/gf in school and wants everyone else to be miserable, too.

 

[similar.squirrel]

From an entirely objective point of view, I can see the principal's reasoning behind his/her actions. There have been several high-profile cases where a depressed student has taken a rash decision too far, and seriously fucked things up for everyone involved.

Having said that, their handling of the situation does seem a little unsympathetic.

I can also see the reasoning behind that, even if it was a little tactless.
School shootings are a penny to the dozen nowadays, so you can't be too careful.

OT: Uniform. It makes my life hell. Revolts me on every single level.

 

[Griphphin]

that is so far beyond the conservative pale that rush Limbaugh couldn't spot it with the Hubble telescope.

That just made my night, thank you XD

OP:
In my first year here at my High School, an ID policy was enacted to "assure that anyone on campus was easily identifiable at all times."
The problem is that it was of course never served its original purpose. It was never enforced strictly unless the student needed to be in trouble. It functioned a tool for teachers to give out referrals to students whenever they couldn't find a better reason. When nothing better could suffice, it was "where is your ID badge?"
I've walked to school and straight past our resource officer without a badge, and all I got was a wave if he was feeling good that day, or a "get to class before I give you a referral" if he woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

 

[Timotei]

Snip snip snip senora, snip you body line

Snip snip snip senora, snip it all the time

I can understand the reasoning behind expulsion for acts of a sexual nature since it is happening with alarming quantities at school (hell, I even accidentally walked in on a girl giving a boy a blowjob [sup]*extra points for her sitting next to me in my history class*[/sup]), but to go as far as to banhammer people for being too close and holding hands.

I'll right out admit that my boyfriend and I do not kiss in public, but we do hold hands occasionally and are no more than 20 feet away from one another 90% of the time. What is to come of those like us who simply wish to show each other some form of constant affection regardless of time or setting? What's our punishment going to be if I just happen to lean on him during break time.

The other question I would love to know the answer to is just how these rules are going to be enforced with six campus security guards in a school of 2867 students?

 

[sms_117b]

I know rules are made for a reason, but recently someone close to me was seriously considering suicide and I was desperate to get help for them. I told a trusted teacher of mine (which I regret terribly) who reported to their counselor, who reported it to the principal.

This ended up having them nearly suspended from school because the principal said that were a threat to our school. The only way out of suspension was to hire a professional therapist. They were just one week from graduating too!

So, anybody here goes to school (or used to) and found a rule simply unreasonable?
What would you do to change it?

First and foremost, you did the right thing, then your teacher did the right thing, as did your counselor, the principle dropped the ball here, big time. The principle should have had asked the student to talk to the counselor, not threaten suspension. The principle should also have made a log of it in their official records.

There are so many reasons why the person would consider suicide, if it's a unknown factor, the situation should be documented, then calmly followed up and constantly update the documents.

Honestly, if I were you, I would talk to your friend try to help them through this, then when they feel better, take the school principle down, report the incidents to a local paper, or more professionally to your local education committee, if he's warned the student about suspension, there has to be documentation to it, and given the circumstances it will only damn the principle, he has no right to be in charge of the school with a attitude like that.

That's the administrative part of me talking, damned courses.

 

[Dark Knifer]

We are not allowed to sit facing the road when we have lunch because people on the other side might feel "threatend." Who the hell wastes their free time thinking of these rules?

 

[jadestarboo]

Snip~

First and foremost, you did the right thing, then your teacher did the right thing, as did your counselor, the principle dropped the ball here, big time. The principle should have had asked the student to talk to the counselor, not threaten suspension. The principle should also have made a log of it in their official records.

There are so many reasons why the person would consider suicide, if it's a unknown factor, the situation should be documented, then calmly followed up and constantly update the documents.

Honestly, if I were you, I would talk to your friend try to help them through this, then when they feel better, take the school principle down, report the incidents to a local paper, or more professionally to your local education committee, if he's warned the student about suspension, there has to be documentation to it, and given the circumstances it will only damn the principle, he has no right to be in charge of the school with a attitude like that.

That's the administrative part of me talking, damned courses.

I feel really bad to say this now, but this occurred about a few months ago, I called it recent because it felt like yesterday. So my friend is doing pretty well and graduated.

I'm probably just a coward, but I'd never have the guts to report any of this. Our high school is pretty big in the state, it's got awards, a title, and tons of recognition over the years. It's going to be pretty ugly if I tried to report anything remotely bad about it.

But thanks, I'm happy to know something's not quite right with my high school, and it's not my imagination.

 

[crudus]

To give credit to the teacher did the right thing. The principal on the other hand handled it very poorly. When someone threatens suicide it is a very delicate matter. You don't want to punish a potential suicider[footnote]that is a word right?[/footnote] since that just makes them feel worse. The school administration is just willing to cover their own asses and is willing to kill the plagued part to save the rest(a decent route to go in any other circumstance).

This has been a serious problem with the "No tolerance" Bullshit people spread around.
I've read so many stories of schools not following THE LAW, and just doing what they damn well please in the name of "Zero Tolerance"

I became a victim of this. I was arrested(I never did hear those rights I am supposed to get), threatened to do their bidding, and told what to write in a confession.

-Being within close proximity

uhhhh...what? Do they expect to see daylight between people when walking or working together or eating a goddamn meal?! If this were at my school 80% of the population of the school would be suspended. Which means the rule would be repealed because the administration hated being pulled from their tetris games.

 

[Littlee300]

The nerve of little kids, to bad expulsion so easy to get, i want to punch those kids in face next time they call me a name D:<
This isnt cruel, some kids say they would stomp on there faces if they said anything to them, so i am warning them for the future and what happen if they continue this to the wrong person...

Also are they like trying to force that kid to get therapy by giving a unfair punishment if not?

 

[SonicKoala]

It seems that the principal at your school is a complete asshole - "My friend wants to kill himself"; "GET HIM THE FUCK OUT OF HERE".... hm, helpful. That being said, I never had any rules at my school that affected me.