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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/07/us-bacteria-superbugs-india-idUSTRE7357W920110407

Yarr. Scientists have found superbugs in Delhi's drinking water, bugs which are highly resistant to almost all antibiotics mankind knows. This could lead to an international health crisis sonner or later.

So, for discussion value: Is it ridiculous that we pop pills for even the smallest sickness and thus create these "superbugs", or is it inevitable and the only thing we can do is develop mankinds medicine? Should we start panicking? How can we prevent this from spreading when scientists say it will take at least 5-6 years to create medicine that will counter these bugs?

What can we do?
 

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Considering the fact that we're all going to die anyways due to viruses and bacteriae becoming immune to antibiotics, I see the beginning of the end here.

yay
 

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Why yes, yes it is. Prescribing anti-biotics during even possible contamination during surgery, a huge contributer to this, is still a very good idea since cutting open a person and introducing foreign objects to the inside of their bodies is one of the easier ways to kill a person. However, prescribing antibiotics anytime someone gets sick, and pumping our poultry full of them, are overzealous precautions and the very reason for the strains of super-staph (MRSA and VRSA) that are resistant to even our strongest antibiotics.

Also, evolution thread.
 

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Its not the end of the world.

Don't panic.

We popped pills to get ourselves into this situation, rest assured, we'll be able to pop pills to get out of it. At least rich people will.

Poor people? Screwed. *pops pills*
 

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2012 predictions anyone?

thiosk said:
Its not the end of the world.

Don't panic.
Of course it's not. In the case that there is a big catastrophic disaster, it won't be the world that'll be destroyed... Just us...

And good riddance to the parasitic plague known as humanity
 

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Well part of the problem is lazy doctors who just gave anti-biotics for everything (even things like viral infections which anti-biotics don't effect) and part is people who won't fuck off without a prescription even when nothing can be prescribed.

Add to that the fact that pharma companies spend about 1,000 (probably and exaggeration but not as exaggerated as you'd think) more money researching anti-depressants on a yearly basis than on producing new anti-biotics. There's been very little real work since the 70's since there is no real money in cures but billions in treatments.
 

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we are guna die sooner or later and the earth is working against us at the moment so lets just go will it and be culled by mother nature
 

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OniaPL said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/07/us-bacteria-superbugs-india-idUSTRE7357W920110407

So, for discussion value: Is it ridiculous that we pop pills for even the smallest sickness and thus create these "superbugs", or is it inevitable and the only thing we can do is develop mankinds medicine? Should we start panicking? How can we prevent this from spreading when scientists say it will take at least 5-6 years to create medicine that will counter these bugs?

What can we do?
well I never use medacine and as such i havnt been sick in years >_> i dont even use pain killers


I dislike medications and use other means for healing stuff.


Sore throat just eat a spoonful of honey and it heals it all up yes it works.

I also drink alot of green tea and OJ xD
 

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I seem to recall hearing that in israel doctors first take a sample of the bacteria, grow it, then select the type of antibiotic to treat against that specific bacteria. Sounds like we should be doing that if we're afraid of superbugs like those.

good grief there are going to be alot more sick people in the near future.
 

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We take them and the stink bugs, put 'em in a room, and make 'em fight to the death.
 

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Or, you know, you could just put in a sealable container, preferably metal, then heat it up untill it boils, then wait for it to turn back to liquid.
 

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Shit. After the crisis that was bird flu, swine blu, sars, this, that, and the other I don't know how we will survive this one.

>_>

Call me when a billion people are dead and then we'll talk.
 

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Veldie said:
OniaPL said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/07/us-bacteria-superbugs-india-idUSTRE7357W920110407

So, for discussion value: Is it ridiculous that we pop pills for even the smallest sickness and thus create these "superbugs", or is it inevitable and the only thing we can do is develop mankinds medicine? Should we start panicking? How can we prevent this from spreading when scientists say it will take at least 5-6 years to create medicine that will counter these bugs?

What can we do?
well I never use medacine and as such i havnt been sick in years >_> i dont even use pain killers


I dislike medications and use other means for healing stuff.


Sore throat just eat a spoonful of honey and it heals it all up yes it works.

I also drink alot of green tea and OJ xD
Wouldn't it be the other way around? You haven't been sick in years so you don't use medicine?
 

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OniaPL said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/07/us-bacteria-superbugs-india-idUSTRE7357W920110407

Yarr. Scientists have found superbugs in Delhi's drinking water, bugs which are highly resistant to almost all antibiotics mankind knows. This could lead to an international health crisis sonner or later.

So, for discussion value: Is it ridiculous that we pop pills for even the smallest sickness and thus create these "superbugs", or is it inevitable and the only thing we can do is develop mankinds medicine? Should we start panicking? How can we prevent this from spreading when scientists say it will take at least 5-6 years to create medicine that will counter these bugs?

What can we do?
I don't think popping asprine created super bugs; at best you could turn this into an arguement against vaccines. But I'll take the risk of maybe creating a 'super bug' over probably getting polio anyday of the week.
 

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dagens24 said:
Veldie said:
OniaPL said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/07/us-bacteria-superbugs-india-idUSTRE7357W920110407

So, for discussion value: Is it ridiculous that we pop pills for even the smallest sickness and thus create these "superbugs", or is it inevitable and the only thing we can do is develop mankinds medicine? Should we start panicking? How can we prevent this from spreading when scientists say it will take at least 5-6 years to create medicine that will counter these bugs?

What can we do?
well I never use medacine and as such i havnt been sick in years >_> i dont even use pain killers


I dislike medications and use other means for healing stuff.


Sore throat just eat a spoonful of honey and it heals it all up yes it works.

I also drink alot of green tea and OJ xD
Wouldn't it be the other way around? You haven't been sick in years so you don't use medicine?
well i ment I havnt ever been sick and back when I still did some I never used medacines I let it pass or my body fight it off like for colds I never took stuff. So now iv basickly im just not a good explaner :/

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Thank God for IBM [http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-04/degradable-nanoparticles-search-intercept-and-destroy-antibiotic-resistant-bacteria]
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
Or, you know, you could just put in a sealable container, preferably metal, then heat it up untill it boils, then wait for it to turn back to liquid.
Scientists are still working on a way to do this to the inside of someone's body...
 

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Tharwen said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Or, you know, you could just put in a sealable container, preferably metal, then heat it up untill it boils, then wait for it to turn back to liquid.
Scientists are still working on a way to do this to the inside of someone's body...
Well, he explained how to do this. Put the person in a sealable container, preferably metal, then heat it up until it boils, and then wait for it to turn into liquid.
 

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funguy2121 said:
Why yes, yes it is. Prescribing anti-biotics during even possible contamination during surgery, a huge contributer to this, is still a very good idea since cutting open a person and introducing foreign objects to the inside of their bodies is one of the easier ways to kill a person. However, prescribing antibiotics anytime someone gets sick, and pumping our poultry full of them, are overzealous precautions and the very reason for the strains of super-staph (MRSA and VRSA) that are resistant to even our strongest antibiotics.

Also, evolution thread.
Industrialized farming is almost solely responsible for creating super bugs.

People have had very little to do with the contribution (in terms of half assing your taking of antibiotics).

dagens24 said:
OniaPL said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/07/us-bacteria-superbugs-india-idUSTRE7357W920110407

Yarr. Scientists have found superbugs in Delhi's drinking water, bugs which are highly resistant to almost all antibiotics mankind knows. This could lead to an international health crisis sonner or later.

So, for discussion value: Is it ridiculous that we pop pills for even the smallest sickness and thus create these "superbugs", or is it inevitable and the only thing we can do is develop mankinds medicine? Should we start panicking? How can we prevent this from spreading when scientists say it will take at least 5-6 years to create medicine that will counter these bugs?

What can we do?
I don't think popping asprine created super bugs; at best you could turn this into an arguement against vaccines. But I'll take the risk of maybe creating a 'super bug' over probably getting polio anyday of the week.
There is no reason to assume vaccines would create a superbug.

There is an important step in the "Bug turning into a superbug" that is missing from vaccinations.

Byere said:
2012 predictions anyone?

thiosk said:
Its not the end of the world.

Don't panic.
Of course it's not. In the case that there is a big catastrophic disaster, it won't be the world that'll be destroyed... Just us...

And good riddance to the parasitic plague known as humanity
Always thought that was a cute (if obnoxious) view of humanity.

"wild" humans are not a parasite on the planet. No more than any other animal. It's the actions of a very small group of folks with the power of industrialization on their side that is obliterating nature.

Specifically artificial nitrogen, most of the things that probably piss you, or nature, off are because of Haber-Bosch process.
 

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OniaPL said:
Tharwen said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Or, you know, you could just put in a sealable container, preferably metal, then heat it up untill it boils, then wait for it to turn back to liquid.
Scientists are still working on a way to do this to the inside of someone's body...
Well, he explained how to do this. Put the person in a sealable container, preferably metal, then heat it up until it boils, and then wait for it to turn into liquid.
Oh, of course. How did I not think of that?