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The infamous SCAMola said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
I was in a relationship with this girl for three years before we had sex, and left four months later. The reason I left her wasn't the sex. It's just that I'd rather be single than in a bad relationship with good sex.

So no. It's not equally important.
For you it isn't.

Also, you said the relationship eas bad, so the sex probably doesn't have anything to do with the breakup.
The relationship wasn't bad, so much as there were other elements missing. She wasn't a bad person, but I don't think she was into me because of me so much as she just liked the idea of having a knight in shining armor.

And, yes, as I've already said the sex wasn't the reason we broke up. I think some of the "other stuff" is more important than sex. Read: more, not exclusively.
 

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paiged said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
I was in a relationship with this girl for three years before we had sex, and left four months later. The reason I left her wasn't the sex. It's just that I'd rather be single than in a bad relationship with good sex.

So no. It's not equally important.
So if the situation was reversed and you weren't physically compatible but had a great relationship otherwise you would have stayed with her?
No. More of, it fell apart for different reasons.
 

The Hairminator

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If someone isn't into sex they've either never been in love, never had it and don't know, talked themselves into thinking it's bad because they never get it, or have something in their past that makes them not want it.
Same goes for cake ;)
 

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While love should always overshadow sex in a relationship situation, It's completely unfounded to say it's completely unecessary, sure when you're young there are better things to think about, talking, kissing, hand holding and Pokémon cards.

But in an adult relationship, I'm sorry, unless you're religious there is no real reason why it should be avoided, sex is the mutual act of understanding and trust between two people who feel very strongly for one another (I'm not saying love, because I've slept with people i felt strongly for but didn't love).

Do not for a second think that I consider the other things I mentioned unimportant, in actual fact they're just as important, if not then equally so.
The key to a successful relationshuip is finding the careful mixture that suits your specific situation.

These are my opinions, you can dispute them if you like, but they will never change.
 
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savandicus said:
As for a relationship not being able to survive without sex then thats a load of rubbish because your basically saying that anyone whos lost their doddle for any reason cant ever have a relationship.
Most people who are romantically involved and are "missing parts" only are in said relationship because the incident happened after the two people came together.

Also, not all sexual acts involve the "doodle".
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
Wow there are some issues here...All i can tell you is your views are a bit over the top extreme. That said, they are your views i would just hope you reconsider your position, in the future, for your own sake.
What? Would my life be ruined by my not having sex? If I wind up in the position to have sex with someone I love and is worthy of my body, I'm not going to pass up the opportunity on grounds that sex is disgusting.
The thing is, sex is a dangerous thing, and I'm not going to go looking for it because some people think that its the best thing ever. At this point, I don't have hormones telling me to have a sexual relationship with someone, and if I were to find someone who was suitable for me to marry, I wouldn't have sex with them unless we were both sexually into each other. Even then, I would wait if at all possible. I am young.

To me, sex is a powerful thing, which can be good or bad. I'm not going to go be a whore because sex is supposedly enjoyable. I mean, call me old-fashioned, but what could happen if I were to not have sexual relationships, and instead had friendships and platonic intamacy?
 

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veryboringfact said:
Do i think sex is important in a reltionship ? Yes.
Do i think sex is important on videogaming websites ? No.
This is the off-topic forum, not a gaming forum.

This is the place where all the intelligent people of the Escapist discuss stuff, like we're doing now.
 
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veryboringfact said:
Do i think sex is important in a reltionship ? Yes.
Do i think sex is important on videogaming websites ? No.
If you don't wan to talk about this stuff it's fine by me, but I would like to point to your attention that the Escapist is not just a gaming website, and this thread was posted in the Off-topic section.

So why don't you just run along back to the gaming section, and we'll all be happy.
 

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vdgmprgrmr said:
This is the off-topic forum, not a gaming forum.

This is the place where all the intelligent people of the Escapist discuss stuff, like we're doing now.
Who told you that? :p
 

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ThrobbingEgo said:
vdgmprgrmr said:
This is the off-topic forum, not a gaming forum.

This is the place where all the intelligent people of the Escapist discuss stuff, like we're doing now.
Who told you that? :p
I'm sorry. I can't detect sarcasm. Was that sarcasm?
 

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Time Travelling Toaster said:
There's nothing wrong with sex ?
Casual sex with a lot of people gets a rep but going with someone and having sex is fine.
About the "unpure/dirty" thing, sex is natural =/ how the hells that dirty or unpure ?
Well, technically mud is dirty, but is also natural. Sex can get QUITE dirty, even if with natural things. Just think on that.
 

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vdgmprgrmr said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
vdgmprgrmr said:
This is the off-topic forum, not a gaming forum.

This is the place where all the intelligent people of the Escapist discuss stuff, like we're doing now.
Who told you that? :p
I'm sorry. I can't detect sarcasm. Was that sarcasm?
No. It's not sarcasm, per se, but I wasn't being serious. It was tongue-in-cheek. I think the smiley should have tipped you off.

And the fact that I asked "who told you that?"
 
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Erana said:
What? Would my life be ruined by my not having sex? If I wind up in the position to have sex with someone I love and is worthy of my body, I'm not going to pass up the opportunity on grounds that sex is disgusting.
The thing is, sex is a dangerous thing, and I'm not going to go looking for it because some people think that its the best thing ever. At this point, I don't have hormones telling me to have a sexual relationship with someone, and if I were to find someone who was suitable for me to marry, I wouldn't have sex with them unless we were both sexually into each other. Even then, I would wait if at all possible. I am young.

To me, sex is a powerful thing, which can be good or bad. I'm not going to go be a whore because sex is supposedly enjoyable. I mean, call me old-fashioned, but what could happen if I were to not have sexual relationships, and instead had friendships and platonic intamacy?
You see, that post just might have had an ounce of credibility if you had actually tried sex at least once.

What you seem to be doing is selecting all the bits of second hand info about sex that you like the most and use them to further your arguments.
 

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Mazty said:
Erana said:
Mazty said:
Erana said:
No, you cannot deny that sex is disgusting. The only thing is, you have hormones that tell you to ignore that fact and enjoy it anyway. I don't take kindly to ageism, and considering your reasons for why sex is good, I stand by the idea that maturity is more important than age.
You talk about maturity yet are saying that a man putting his penis into a woman's vagina is disgusting. If you can't see past that then you have a lot of growing up to do.
Learn a little about biology. How is sex, the one thing that creates life, disgusting?
Personally, I think that having a hole that runs through my entire body is somewhat disgusting. But that's life. Disgusting is subjective anyway.
And how the ***** can you seriously say that being intimate is an immature view on sex?
You are going to look back at this in a few years and realise how absurd & immature what you are saying is.
I'm not ageist, but don't be conceited.
I took a course on women's biology. It was disgusting. And I wasn't talking about being repulsed by intimacy or the creation of life, I was talking about the fact that you would compare something to hard drugs.

And have you ever considered the idea that I am repulsed by sex and drugs not because of my age, but because I've seen some of how horrible and destructive both can be?

I don't get signals that tell me that there is goodness to be had in sex. All I see is the potential for pain, betrayal and heartbreak, which is a necessary toll for procreation. Sex can be intimate, but intimacy itself does not have to be sexual.

And sex is rarely a fit of passion. Don't lie to yourself and say such things. From what I have found from second-hand sources that don't rose-tint everything, its not really that great. It is about eleven minutes worth of something that may or may not be pleasurable, and is often awkward. Our society has further laden sex with shame, and you may have well ruined the relationship you once had with someone you care about. And people don't always have sex for sex, it is a filler, an attempt to deal with real life problems, much akin to worry-eating or drinking away one's cares.
Its like Disneyland. Everyone practically worships it as the ideal place for bliss and togetherness, but really, you're just sweaty, dirty, out a few hundred dollars, and you could have had as much fun from staying home and watching a movie.
Wait a second, you said:
"It is disgusting, in actuality. I mean, all the bodily fluids, disease, and proximity to the anus 'n what not...
I'm stayin' a virgin until I find a lifelong mate who can make that sound appealing. "
That means you do find the idea of sex "eeeeeee" to put it in the most blunt way possible.

As for comparing it to hard drugs, that's the pure physical side of it - the release of endorphins being very similar to ectasy or even more similar to heroin. I'm not for drugs at all, but those are the facts, and saying sex is bad because it feels good is ridiculous.

"You don't get the signals" doesn't mean sex is bad, just that you haven't seen the good side to it.
"ll I see is the potential for pain, betrayal and heartbreak, which is a necessary toll for procreation."
Well that just tells me that your attitude towards life is very insecure & negative. It'd be like saying "All I see in food is weight gain, but it's what needs to happen for me to live". It wouldn't hurt to look at the positive side of it.

Intimacy doesn't have to be sex, but find something more intimate than a passionate & romantic night with a lover.
As for your second hand sources, saying sex is usually awkward is nothing shy of hilarious & again, says more about your friends age rather than their experience of life. Ask people other than your highschool buddies what sex is like then you'll find relationships which aren't based on highschool pressures, hormones and insecurity, but actual love. Then you'll hear about the 45min romp-athons in candle-lit, rose-petal covered apartments.
As for your closing remarks, you really are a social pessimist so no wonder you have a downer on the most intimate a person can have. I can't presume to know why, but my bets are that you, or your friends, have no idea on what love is, let alone sex other than fumbling under the bed sheets.

Good luck finding love & romance with a movie.
I hope you realise that my second-hand sources are at least +35, most in their fourties? I don't do highschool, and the act of sex itself lasts anywhere between seven and fifteen minutes, with the rest being physical intamacy and possible later sessions of copulation.
And I never said sex was bad, I said it was dangerous. So is driving. I don't have hormonal signals to tell me to enjoy sex, so I see it in a completely objective view- I know few happy, lifelong couples in comparison to the number of couples I've seen having divorces, and marital troubles from people cheating on their spouses.
And then there are the people I know who have been raped.
And then there are the people who have STDs, and the women I know who have suffered through abortions.
I am a social pessimist, with little evidence to make me want to change my opinion on other people.