Shadowrun Returns?

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endtherapture

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Yes or no?

How long is it?

Is it worth a buy at £6 on Steam or should I wait til it's a lot cheaper considering I have a 200 game backlog if I'm just curious?

Looks like Dragon Age + XCOM + Deus Ex. Is it anything like that?
 

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endtherapture said:
Yes or no?
Guess it depends on whether or not your into the SR universe.


endtherapture said:
Looks like Dragon Age + XCOM + Deus Ex. Is it anything like that?
Plays alot more like the original Fallout except super linear with the ability to hire or gain temp companions for missions

Overall I found it to be a good effort for an indie studio but the inability to save at anytime means you have to quit at the checkpoints or else you have to replay the whole section again. The save thing caused me to quit before i finished the game due to me being to busy at the time to play a game that i had to play through to a certain points in order to save.
 

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If you aren't in a hurry to play the game I'd wait until the release of the first expansion (which is going to introduce manual saving amongst other things) and the inevitable discount afterwards.
 

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It's bad. It's really bad. Boring combat, boring dialogue, and everyone dresses like a twat. Don't bother.
 

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Haven't played the whole game, but it's a fun RPG i think. For 6 quid it's a very good purchase imo. Then again i kickstarted that shit, so i guess i'm a bit biased.
 

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Smertnik said:
If you aren't in a hurry to play the game I'd wait until the release of the first expansion (which is going to introduce manual saving amongst other things) and the inevitable discount afterwards.
This seems like a quite reasonable idea.

As for myself, I enjoyed it a great deal, more than many others apparently. Many people criticized the writing, which I rather liked, or the linearity, which didn't particularly bother me. I found the combat system very engaging, the art style is cool, and I had an overall great time with it. That said, I never experienced crashes or had my party wiped, and without the option of manual saving, I can definitely see how that would sour someone's overall experience.

So, in verdict, it's definitely worth £6, but you might as well wait for the DLC release, and then wait for a sale on the inevitable bundle, if you've got a ton of other games to play anyway.
 

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Yes or no?
I would say yes, but I'm a huge fan of the Shadowrun universe and cyberpunk in general. It's very good but not the most amazing game so a lot of your "yes or no" depends on how much you think you'd be into the source material.

How long is it?
Somewhere around 15 hours. I've heard as low as 11 or 12. My Steam Profile says 17 but I played slow and checked out all of the dialogue plus explored when I could.


Is it worth a buy at £6 on Steam or should I wait til it's a lot cheaper considering I have a 200 game backlog if I'm just curious?
I'm guessing if you're not going to get at it right away, you can likely wait as I'm sure it will eventually be cheaper at some point.

Looks like Dragon Age + XCOM + Deus Ex. Is it anything like that?
The combat is fairly XCom ish to be sure, and it does borrow some source material elements from Deus Ex (or, more precisely, Deus Ex borrows from Shadowrun). The dialogue is almost entirely excellent, and written very much in a manner that's true to the source material, but there's not really the sort of choice laden conversations that you'd find in Dragon Age. Most of the extra dialogue options are about finding background information and getting into the world as opposed to making big choices.

In short, it's a very good game that borders on great if you're into Shadowrun. It does have it's flaws though, like a very old school save system and a clunky UI, and isn't as open world (or just as open in general) as many people would like.
 

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Ya it's cool for that price, and I do say it because it is RPG made on a small budget but it's still a novelty style these days and pretty cool over all.

Sadly the writing isn't all solid, it is the most linear RPG of it's kind, combat only makes sense with guns which makes the classes and their special abilities pretty useless, and the save system is checkpoint only which are absurdly spaced out.
 

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I had my own doubts about Shadowrun Returns, but I'm glad I picked it up during the Steam Xmas sale. The combat is strangely satisfying given how simple it is, and the writing is competent enough to keep me engaged.

That said, it's not worth full price. The save system is absolutely atrocious (an update is supposedly going to fix that sometime early next year) and it's way too linear to be considered a true RPG. Wait for another sale to pick it up.
 

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Shadowrun is definetly worth it IMO. Its more of an old school RPG and theres no voice acting so you have to do some reading, however the writing is really good. It also has a bit of replayability and a strong modding community

However there are numerous drug paraphenalia stories which may or may not turn you off. Its also a hyper violent world with heavy cyberpunk meets fantasy elements. Some people might balk at having a futuristic world with Trolls, dwarves, elves, etc as well as magic and shamanism but I dont. Its just part of the magic that is shadowrun

I helped kickstart Shadowrun way back when and IMO I got my money's worth and then some. Its a great game if you like tactical combat combined with a great RPG
 

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From what I've seen and read and talked to friends about, this game could never live up to the expectations and love I have for the SEGA Genesis Shadowrun game. There was a lot to love about it, and I just don't see the new iteration being anywhere near what I'd want out of a new Shadowrun. I usually judge games by playing them myself but this is one series my friends can be the best sounding board for because we all spent time playing the SEGA game and have the same love for it. They happened to buy the new one and have warned me not to spend money on it.
 

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Something no one mentioned so far: There are a lot of user-created campaigns already, and a lot of those are good.
 

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It's disappointing, and I'm one of the biggest Shadowrun nerds you will likely run into.

The combat isn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be, but the biggest problem is that because the game is so short and so bluntly tiered in progression (a problem the tabletop managed to largely avoid) that most skills are either worthless or very limited. (Adepts especially...oh man do Adepts suck ass)

There is a second major campaign in the works as DLC (which I'm pretty much obligated to review), but right now it is sorely lacking for content as the basic campaign is WAY too linear and short. There is user-created content, and it has been getting better, but to base the value of the game on that was a very big mistake by Harebrained Schemes.

All that said, if you ever wondered what that Shadowrun thing was, the basic campaign is actually a good crash course into the setting. The one thing SRR gets spot on, is the setting and tone. It's just a pity that it's spread so thin.

wombat_of_war said:
the mechanics are different but its one of the few games that actually manages to have the same feel you got when you played one of the old tabletop campaigns. yes those were linear for the most part too.
Well, kinda.
The modules were semi-linear, but the nature of the game made it such that there were usually multiple avenues to accomplishing an objective, and there were multiple possible turnouts with consequences.
Also, the modules were generally fairly easy to modify, whether to throw players for a loop, or to meet what could otherwise be conflicting objectives.

Which is a nice change of pace from most tabletops; failure CAN be an option and one that doesn't always lead to sudden death or a sudden halt in the campaign.
 

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Awesome game, if a bit linear. The artwork is superb, the soundtrack very good and I got hell of a lot of fun out of it, and I'm not done with it yet. There's also some very nice mods for it out there.
And with it on steam sale, I'd go for it.
 

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endtherapture said:
Looks like Dragon Age + XCOM + Deus Ex. Is it anything like that?
I guess you could say it looks like those games. If all those games were really dated and crappy, instead of classics of their respective genres.

Shadowrun Returns is not without its...limited charms, but it's more of a cautionary tale about mediating expectations for kickstarted retro RPGs than anything else.
 

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I think it's worth anything under a tenner. And ultimately, you get what you pay for. It looks and feels like a game from the late 90s / early 00's, if you don't mind that style and you enjoy tactical RPGs, you'll probably have a good time. But even then, it's pretty short. Ah, but there is user content! ...None of which I have found to be of a quality good enough to merit more than 20 minutes of curiousity.

I spent around £20 on it on Steam and kind of wish I'd waited for a sale. But I did play the game from start to finish and dabbled in user content for a while, so I don't consider it a wasted purchase.
 

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Bought it on android, so it doesn't have editor, nor was i ever even heard of Shadowrun before.
But yeah for that price it's okay, good "snack" rpg.
I imagine pc version with editor / custom maps it will last much, much longer.