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So I just finished watching the newest Godzilla movie, and wow. There's a lot to unpack.

First and foremost, spoilers aside, if you want to know whether or not you should see this movie, the answer is yes. There have been a lot of rumors about the film, and some sketchy looking photos of Godzilla with some janky looking arms. I'm glad to say that this does not represent the final product, and that the photo makes sense within the context of the scene.

Now, onto specifics. This was not an action movie. At all. This was a movie about the state of Japanese bureaucracy in the wake of the tsunami and the reactor meltdown. It was a film about how the government is incapable of responding to a natural disaster. It was a film about how Japan feels impotent on the world stage, and how it depends on everyone else to protect them. This was a film about the legacy of the atom bomb, and about the impact that this disaster has had on their culture. You will spend more time watching government officials arguing in an office then you will be watching Godzilla. This was clearly a film made for a Japanese audience, and you have to have that kind of mindset before walking in. This is the thinking mans Godzilla.



The practical affects look fine, and Godzilla's design works remarkably well. I was worried that he would look goofy, but thankfully this was not an issue. The writing and acting were decent, and while there weren't very many action scenes, the ones that were in there were quite good.

I had two main criticisms. The first is that the CGI definitely showed its budget. This didn't matter as much during the scenes that really mattered, as the scenes were still well shot, and many of them took place at night, but some of the CGI scenes that took place during the day were rather cheap looking. My second criticism is that the film slows down after the first half. The middle of the film felt like it should have been the ending. While I still enjoyed the movie, and the second half made sense thematically, it still felt anti-climactic. Again, this is not an action movie. It was a movie about Japanese politics. That said, the movie ended on a strong note.

Finally, I want to talk about the director. If you've seen Neon Genesis, then you should know what to expect. This film feels like an episode of Neon Genesis. The way shots are done, the way tanks and weapons are positioned... it even has actual music from Neon Genesis. Heck, one of the main characters is basically just Misato with a name change. This could have been somewhat obnoxious, but it actually works in the films favor, as many of the scenes actually do the opposite of what you would expect from Neon genesis.

Overall, the film was an interesting take on the idea, and a resounding success.
 

Casual Shinji

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I heard Anno had a major shitty time making this movie, since apparently Toho has a habbit of breathing down their directors' necks when it comes to Godzilla.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I heard Anno had a major shitty time making this movie, since apparently Toho has a habbit of breathing down their directors' necks when it comes to Godzilla.
Really? I'll have to look into that. That's interesting. I will say that It doesn't feel like there was a lot of executive meddling. I got the impression that Anno pretty much got to do what he wanted. He has said that the film inspired him enough to go finish Eva four point whatever.
 

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inu-kun said:
Is there any legal way of watching the film outside the USA (some streaming service)?
It just came out, so I'm not sure. It's distributed by Funimation, so you can try to find it there.
 

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I'm not sure if we're spoiling things or not but I'm gonna spoil-box some things anyway.

I brought a friend with me to it last night, him, a Neon Genesis fan, myself Godzilla (haven't watched all the movies, around a third of them but still), we had some interesting discussions; like you said with using music from NG, would've never known that if he didn't point it out. I noticed the use of the classic theme and G-Force theme, yeah, but not Neon Genesis.

Speaking of classic, boy is this it. The classic roar, classic music, there's an appreciation nowadays not to do straight sequels or reboots but "What if the original was made this year" you know? And this is definitely it.

Oh, and I'll agree with the visuals. I'm pretty forgiving but there was one specific shot even I couldn't take too seriously.
When he first evolves from the salamander thing to going bipedal. The shot is kinda behind him and to his left, when he's changing, there's some weird ripple that's all over his body, like it looks when you point a camcorder at a computer monitor, it just looked goofy.
Other than the above, at worst, the visuals were visceral at worst to me.

I really like how we get into Godzilla's physiology.
I like how they address the whole "he can't support his own weight" and "how does he get enough energy to power himself" with "he's the most evolved thing ever and he's a walking nuclear reactor". Perfect answers, maybe, maybe not, I don't know but they were good enough for me

I like how the camera's really close to Godzilla. I could be wrong but I feel like it's a little hard to make Godzilla truly scary because it seems like he's so big he won't even notice you but the audience is practically getting trampled underfoot here. And even when it's not close, you really don't forget he's there. He can be found in the background in shots where he's not the focus if you have a keen eye, I don't doubt I might've missed him in a couple shots.

So I'm gonna go troll a few other forums for ending discussions but what was with the Gates Of Hell thing coming out of his tail at the very end, all the little "people" with fins looking like they're trying to escape It seems like they're spawning from him in some way, I don't think they're actual people that were at some point trampled underfoot and are now mutating although that might be what they are.
I'm not looking fora solid answer here because it looks like we're probably getting a sequel, "Man has to learn to co-exist with Godzilla", I'm just lookin' for a few theories to think about.

Altogether, I liked it. I'll agree that it can be a thinkin' man's Godzilla film but there's still things to enjoy here without thinking about all the bureaucracy. Not saying it can be ignored completely, but the human element is engaging here which is exactly how a Godzilla film should work.
 

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Extra-Ordinary said:
I'm not sure if we're spoiling things or not but I'm gonna spoil-box some things anyway.

I brought a friend with me to it last night, him, a Neon Genesis fan, myself Godzilla (haven't watched all the movies, around a third of them but still), we had some interesting discussions; like you said with using music from NG, would've never known that if he didn't point it out. I noticed the use of the classic theme and G-Force theme, yeah, but not Neon Genesis.

Speaking of classic, boy is this it. The classic roar, classic music, there's an appreciation nowadays not to do straight sequels or reboots but "What if the original was made this year" you know? And this is definitely it.

Oh, and I'll agree with the visuals. I'm pretty forgiving but there was one specific shot even I couldn't take too seriously.
When he first evolves from the salamander thing to going bipedal. The shot is kinda behind him and to his left, when he's changing, there's some weird ripple that's all over his body, like it looks when you point a camcorder at a computer monitor, it just looked goofy.
Other than the above, at worst, the visuals were visceral at worst to me.

I really like how we get into Godzilla's physiology.
I like how they address the whole "he can't support his own weight" and "how does he get enough energy to power himself" with "he's the most evolved thing ever and he's a walking nuclear reactor". Perfect answers, maybe, maybe not, I don't know but they were good enough for me

I like how the camera's really close to Godzilla. I could be wrong but I feel like it's a little hard to make Godzilla truly scary because it seems like he's so big he won't even notice you but the audience is practically getting trampled underfoot here. And even when it's not close, you really don't forget he's there. He can be found in the background in shots where he's not the focus if you have a keen eye, I don't doubt I might've missed him in a couple shots.

So I'm gonna go troll a few other forums for ending discussions but what was with the Gates Of Hell thing coming out of his tail at the very end, all the little "people" with fins looking like they're trying to escape It seems like they're spawning from him in some way, I don't think they're actual people that were at some point trampled underfoot and are now mutating although that might be what they are.
I'm not looking fora solid answer here because it looks like we're probably getting a sequel, "Man has to learn to co-exist with Godzilla", I'm just lookin' for a few theories to think about.

Altogether, I liked it. I'll agree that it can be a thinkin' man's Godzilla film but there's still things to enjoy here without thinking about all the bureaucracy. Not saying it can be ignored completely, but the human element is engaging here which is exactly how a Godzilla film should work.
What got me about the Neon Genesis music was how he used it. If you watch the show, whenever that music starts, you know that shits about to go down. The main characters of the show are about to make split second tactical decisions that could save lives or get people killed. What made it work in this film is that they did the opposite. They played the fast paced tactical music form Neon Genesis while... A bunch of bureaucrats fumbled around with paper and let the city get destroyed. It was actually pretty funny.

I'll agree about the physiology as well. I liked how the film paid homage to classic Godzilla while still doing something different. When I first saw Godzilla, I think everyone in the theatre was taken back. Seeing him change like a real animal was interesting. I liked the attention to detail. When he opened his mouth and liquid spilled out I was surprised. But then he breathed fire and I realized the liquid was flammable. I never would have thought of that. It's like they tried to treat him like a real animal.

Honestly, that was one of the best theatre experiences ever. The owner of the theatre had a big booth for Godzilla at the entrance. When we went in, he stood in front of the screen with a beer and gave a huge speech about the themes of the movie, and said he was glad to see so many people come for a Godzilla film. He brought in Godzilla theatre posters from his house and placed them at the bottom of the screen. When it was over he talked to people about the meaning of the film. It was great.

As for the ending:
That was a great shot. The people had find, so they may have been baby Godzilla's. However, they also looked human. On the one hand I think it was a visual metaphor for all the people who died at Hiroshima. On a more literal level, I'm not sure. Were they Godzilla's young, or were they some kind of victims of the disaster that somehow got infused into his body? Did it happen before the attack, or after? It's pretty horrifying to think about.