Families sue Universal Orlando after actor made white-power ‘OK’ gesture posing with girls
The families have sued Universal Orlando after the park refused to disclose the actor behind the Gru character.
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So are people going to finally admit the shit about the ok hand sign is stupid?
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We do not have enough information to usefully assess the situation.Families sue Universal Orlando after actor made white-power ‘OK’ gesture posing with girls
The families have sued Universal Orlando after the park refused to disclose the actor behind the Gru character.
After all, if that were a white supremacist (or just a very poor taste "joke"), that's kind of very different from some accidental hand conformation that's occurred with a few photo ops.
I stand by my position that if we got the 6 or so white supremacists with the biggest social media profiles to have a biweekly meeting in which they pick a couple of innocuous things (hand signs, emoji, words, whatever) and just make a point of using them as frequently as possible for the following month we could make all communication white supremacy by 2030.
I should point out the "Ok" hand symbol is only considered a hate sign by the Anti-Defamation League, which I didn't know this until I looked it up, but that's a Jewish Pro-Israel special interest group. I dunno why, but I always thought it was some non-partisan Government group or watchdog. No, its just another special interest group. And truly its not doing Jewish relations or stereotypes any good if a Jewish group says its okay to sue people and take their money because of hand signs, especially something like the "Ok" sign which the ADL openly says is only used by hate groups like 8chan ironically and the overwhelming majority of people don't associate it with white supremacy and are using as the standard "Ok" meaning.
Just sits wrong with me the group is called the Anti-Defamation League, and works towards pro-Jewish relations and improvements, and then say fuck it, start suing people who make every day hand signs and accuse them of being white-supremist, see how much money you can get!
Just sits wrong with me the group is called the Anti-Defamation League, and works towards pro-Jewish relations and improvements, and then say fuck it, start suing people who make every day hand signs and accuse them of being white-supremist, see how much money you can get!
My favorite is their entry on Pepe, which basically says that Pepe is a white supremacist meme if used in combination with other white supremacist symbols or otherwise in a context of white supremacy.
I feel like someone needs to Google "Nazi Spongebob", send the results to ADL and see if we can't get Spongebob declared a hate symbol under literally the same logic.
There's a surprising number of depictions of Spongebob either as Hitler or with Nazi imagery around him.
Well, I mean...he is a supervillain...Families sue Universal Orlando after actor made white-power ‘OK’ gesture posing with girls
The families have sued Universal Orlando after the park refused to disclose the actor behind the Gru character.
I think what he was pointing out is that anything can be considered White Supremist, if used with other WS symbols and slogans. That the context of "needs to be used in conjecture with other white supremist symbols" is so specific and colored that its meaningless.
Of course its a white supremist meme...when used by white supremist to show white supremacy ideas.
In the same way Pepe the Frog is a British ice cream mascot...when used by the Snugsbury ice cream store in Cheshire.
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Now you take that back! Gru is a familyman! How dare you tarnish him with such slander!
Because it applies to almost literally *ANYTHING*. Can you name a character that is not a white supremacist symbol when used in combination with other white supremacist imagery and in a white supremacist context?
Mm, pass that on the way to visiting my parents (not that I've done that in over a year, for obvious reasons). Sometimes even stop off for an ice cream.
Didn't the OK-sign being a hate symbol arise as a meme? Like I thought people were mocking SJW's by calling the ok-sign a hate symbol and then they just like ran with it and made it actually a problem. I thought it was completely made up and it just got way out of hand because people are crazy,.
As an example.
Donald Duck would be considered pro Nazi imagery just based on this image despite this cartoon being made during WWII and intended to be anti-Nazi from its depiction of what it was like to live under Nazi rule.
I think they went all in on it being a hate symbol because Trump had that habit of making the ok sign with his hand when emphasizing something.
Here's an idea instead of letting the white power types claim yet another symbol, can someone like BLM, or the LGBTQ community reclaim it, and other symbols so I or someone else doesn't get fired or expelled for accidentally not being in the know about which normal hand gesture is now racist.
Well, that's all part of the trick, isn't it? To understand a lot of the modern far right is that they are intertwined with ironic internet loltastic trolling. Do they mean something seriously? Do they not? They can make that up as they go along, to create a rigged game. It's like when someone needles you, where you either put up with it and they get away with it, or you react and they act like you're the arsehole and being oversensitive with "Hey bro, what's your problem, can't take a joke?"
Twit the libs into thinking it's a far right gesture: get them steamed and make them look foolish. Except also, at the same time, really do set up the symbol in association with perceived far right causes. So it genuinely is being used to represent the far right, albeit at a level of a wheeze to screw with people because it can be rolled back as a scam. And what will add to the mess is undoubtedly at least some of the far right themselves aren't in on the joke, and will be using it totally unironically.
And in this confusion, people just going to impose their prejudices. The left tend to be suspicious and may overreact, and the anti-left [left= feminism / BLM / liberal / progressive / mainstream media / etc.] use that as a tool to make fun of the left as the stupid oversensitive snowflake cucks that they think the left are.
In a sense, the ADL's definition of it as a hate symbol is actually the only real answer. Is it a hate symbol? I guess you can only tell if there is sufficient supporting evidence.
I mean the same can be said about the left and some of the things they seem to take offense with. I saw someone complaining that blaming something on your OCD was triggering and ableist if you didn't really have OCD. And you have to wonder if they are going out of their way to invent new shit to be offended by.
Yeah basically this, and because it gains so much media attention it just fuels the stupid fire.
Can anything technically be a hate symbol if you hate the symbol?
While I agree there is no good answer, the problem is that people are getting shamed on social media, "canceled" and actually fired from their jobs because they give an "Ok" gesture, and people just assumed they're a white supremacist. Hell there was one dude in California who got fired from his job because he was "caught" giving the gesture at a traffic intersection, and people assumed he was a WS and then it turned out he was Latino and was thanking the other driver for letting him go. Still fired though. Lost his job because people called him a White Supremist because of a hand gesture, thanks to the Anti-Defamation League.
If anything can be used as a hate symbol if its used as a hate symbol, then its not right to then just assume that's the standard use.