So there's going to be an Artemis Fowl movie

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Screamarie

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Sorry if someone's already brought this up, but from what I've seen many people like the Artemis Fowl book series and so I thought I'd share with you this article that I found off my facebook.

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/disney-developing-artemis-fowl-movie-with-harvey-weinstein-1200569446/

They've been trying for twelve years to get this movie going and only now seem to have gotten things on a roll.

Harvey Weinstein is the producer and Michael Goldenberg will be writing the screenplay.

It all seems fairly "in the works" right now so who knows this could all just go to shit and they never even to the point of casting, but...time will tell.

Any thoughts?

I personally am hoping that if this goes through they don't fuck it up royally because I adore the Artemis Fowl series...and I honestly think if it gets to some of the later books the directors/producers will have a damn hard time not giving Fowl a girlfriend...and I imagine if they do, she will be terrible.
 

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I remember reading one or two of the books and I've read a comic of it various times over.
Fun series. Neat idea, but I hope they get an authentic Irish kid to play him (he was Irish, wasn't he?) But yeah, I'm at least a little bit interested.
 

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Film adaption of a teen-fantasy? Stop the fucking presses.

From what I remember Artemis Fowl was kinda a jerk right? I only read the first book and it was a long time ago, I remember it being fairly good though. Interesting take on things, I'm sure they'll make it bland and shit though.
 

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hazabaza1 said:
I remember reading one or two of the books and I've read a comic of it various times over.
Fun series. Neat idea, but I hope they get an authentic Irish kid to play him (he was Irish, wasn't he?) But yeah, I'm at least a little bit interested.
Yes he was Irish and he was very proud of the fact that he was Irish so I think you've got a point there.

TheRightToArmBears said:
Film adaption of a teen-fantasy? Stop the fucking presses.

From what I remember Artemis Fowl was kinda a jerk right? I only read the first book and it was a long time ago, I remember it being fairly good though. Interesting take on things, I'm sure they'll make it bland and shit though.
Artemis started out as a jerk because he had some family issues (missing father and his mother had had a mental breakdown because of it). Over time though he grows and becomes a much more compassionate young man.
 

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The major problem I had with the books is that they didn't age with me (and I started reading them at age 10). Got about halfway through Atlantis Complex before realising I'd outgrown it completely. If they are going to make a film that's a risk they'll need to consider.

I suppose now's a good time to make a film. CGI's improved so the fairies should look alright, and there's potential. Maybe not franchise potential, but potential. Just please don't change the core of the whole thing, there's a reason why it works.

Also, re your point about Artemis having a girlfriend (potential spoilers for books 5 through 7)

It's been a while but wasn't that the whole point of Minerva and the sexual tension with Holly in the later books? And wasn't there a fair amount of alleged Stockholm Syndrome in book 1?
 

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tomtom94 said:
The major problem I had with the books is that they didn't age with me (and I started reading them at age 10). Got about halfway through Atlantis Complex before realising I'd outgrown it completely. If they are going to make a film that's a risk they'll need to consider.

I suppose now's a good time to make a film. CGI's improved so the fairies should look alright, and there's potential. Maybe not franchise potential, but potential. Just please don't change the core of the whole thing, there's a reason why it works.

Also, re your point about Artemis having a girlfriend (potential spoilers for books 5 through 7)

It's been a while but wasn't that the whole point of Minerva and the sexual tension with Holly in the later books? And wasn't there a fair amount of alleged Stockholm Syndrome in book 1?
Yes, but in the shortest terms Artemis never "hooked up" with anyone. He ended the series without a girlfriend. I just think that they'll want to crowbar a girlfriend in there because "that's the only way girls will be interested" is sometimes the mentality.
 

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Sounds intriguing but on the other hand after what they did to Eragon I am not sure what to think anymore.
Not that the books where that special but the films were just painful. Or the first one anyway since it completely ruined any interest I might have had to continue watching.
 

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Screamarie said:
tomtom94 said:
The major problem I had with the books is that they didn't age with me (and I started reading them at age 10). Got about halfway through Atlantis Complex before realising I'd outgrown it completely. If they are going to make a film that's a risk they'll need to consider.

I suppose now's a good time to make a film. CGI's improved so the fairies should look alright, and there's potential. Maybe not franchise potential, but potential. Just please don't change the core of the whole thing, there's a reason why it works.

Also, re your point about Artemis having a girlfriend (potential spoilers for books 5 through 7)

It's been a while but wasn't that the whole point of Minerva and the sexual tension with Holly in the later books? And wasn't there a fair amount of alleged Stockholm Syndrome in book 1?
Yes, but in the shortest terms Artemis never "hooked up" with anyone. He ended the series without a girlfriend. I just think that they'll want to crowbar a girlfriend in there because "that's the only way girls will be interested" is sometimes the mentality.
Fair point. Here's hoping that whoever's behind this acknowledges that Holly and Juliet are strong female characters in and of themselves...
 

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I cannot think of a single movie based of a book aside from the Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit movie that I have ever liked.

Plus I think that after book 4 the quality of the books went down hill. I loved Number 1, a character introduced in book 5, but book 5 itself was a real let down for me. Mostly because it introduced the character I hated most in the whole series, I am just glad she was not in or even mentioned in any of the other books. For me, that would have turned books 6-8 from mediocre to bad.
 

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Quaxar said:
Sounds intriguing but on the other hand after what they did to Eragon I am not sure what to think anymore.
Not that the books where that special but the films were just painful. Or the first one anyway since it completely ruined any interest I might have had to continue watching.
I know this is a bit off topic but I had forgoten how bad Eragon was. The books were not outstanding but I found them fun (even tho the ending to book 4 sucked more than Mass Effect 3) but damn that movie was just all bad.

Hell main characters were missing, including the entire Dwarf race. The dwarves are realy important. They take up the last 1/4 of the third book and one of the main characters is a dwarf.

And didn't they kill the Ra'zac?
 

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MuffinMan74 said:
Gizmo1990 said:
I cannot think of a single movie based of a book aside from the Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit movie that I have ever liked.
Wow really, cause that's a ton of classic movies right there

The Godfather movies (maybe not the 3rd)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
James Bond
Jurassic Park
Jaws
The Shining
Wizard of Oz
The Social Network
Fight Club
American Psycho

etc. etc.
I had forgoten about James Bond but I am indifferent to the rest with the exception of The Godfarther movies which I really hate. Really boring.
 

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I've always thought that Artemis Fowl would make a good movie series if they directly adapted the books into feature length movies without adding bullshit or subtracting important plot elements.

Now, I'm not too sure. -.-
 

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I loved the book because Artemis was such an anti-hero. He's haughty, overzealous, rich, protected by fuckmothering Butler, thinks he's above authorities, blackmails people, and kidnaps people. Holly was the only truly good character in the entire book series, but Holly's character is absolutely outdone by Artemis's ability to be cold and cunning but still strike the reader as an overly ambitious kid.

You can't have a movie do that, holy shit. Especially not one like Disney, which is a lot more likely to shuck out another Golden Compass or Percy Jackson-quality book.

And I know for certain the movie can't be made without there being some sort of love interest in the mix. No, seriously, there is a require for movies to have a love interest or buddy-buddy focus, otherwise the movie isn't screened. (Something about making it 'interesting for women', take that as a completely made up fact). The enormously memorable troll vs. Butler scene is probably going to be cut or heavily toned down, because the release flaunted the pissing words "family appeal". And Mulch, motherfucking lovable Mulch, what are they going to do to him?

I say, however, the right cast is going to be half of the movie. Butler can't be just a muscular guy, Butler needs to be a monsterous brick shithouse of a man. Whoever casts Artemis (and face it, they're going to scale him up to be at least fifteen) needs to have Artemis' particularly snobbish and punchable personality.

The screenplay, since they're smushing the first two books together (when there's enough story in the books to have their own movies) is certainly going to be icky.
 

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Is the author involved in the process at all, or has he at least endorsed it?

Thing is, I'm worried it's going to be the familiar World War Z scenario again. Some titanic film studio simply hoovering up some recognisable title they can use, and then boiling it all down into an inoffensive, perfectly marketable mess. I certainly hope not.

I like those books. I still haven't forgotten about that wretched Thunderbirds movie.

Captcha: run the gauntlet. I do hope Artemis et amis emerges from the other side of the Disney flogging brigades with their essentials intact, at least...

TheYellowCellPhone said:
I say, however, the right cast is going to be half of the movie. Butler can't be just a muscular guy, Butler needs to be a monsterous brick shithouse of a man. Whoever casts Artemis (and face it, they're going to scale him up to be at least fifteen) needs to have Artemis' particularly snobbish and punchable personality.
Agreed. For some reason, I always pictured him alot like a well spoken Heavy Weapon's Guy, with a suit struggling to not fall apart and a little bowler hat balanced on his big orca-like head.
 

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The only actor I've ever deciding on being in one of these movies is David Tennant as Foaly. Everthing else is just in the dark.

EDIT: Oh, and if it's animated, Tara Strong as Holly Short. That's all.
 

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TheYellowCellPhone said:
I loved the book because Artemis was such an anti-hero. He's haughty, overzealous, rich, protected by fuckmothering Butler, thinks he's above authorities, blackmails people, and kidnaps people. Holly was the only truly good character in the entire book series, but Holly's character is absolutely outdone by Artemis's ability to be cold and cunning but still strike the reader as an overly ambitious kid.

You can't have a movie do that, holy shit. Especially not one like Disney, which is a lot more likely to shuck out another Golden Compass or Percy Jackson-quality book.

And I know for certain the movie can't be made without there being some sort of love interest in the mix. No, seriously, there is a require for movies to have a love interest or buddy-buddy focus, otherwise the movie isn't screened. (Something about making it 'interesting for women', take that as a completely made up fact). The enormously memorable troll vs. Butler scene is probably going to be cut or heavily toned down, because the release flaunted the pissing words "family appeal". And Mulch, motherfucking lovable Mulch, what are they going to do to him?

I say, however, the right cast is going to be half of the movie. Butler can't be just a muscular guy, Butler needs to be a monsterous brick shithouse of a man. Whoever casts Artemis (and face it, they're going to scale him up to be at least fifteen) needs to have Artemis' particularly snobbish and punchable personality.

The screenplay, since they're smushing the first two books together (when there's enough story in the books to have their own movies) is certainly going to be icky.
That's pretty much all my concerns. *sigh* I really kind of wish that Warner Brothers got a hold of it instead. They weren't perfect, but the Harry Potter movies was one of the better adaptations of book to film I had ever seen and when the books got dark, the movies did not mind at all to go dark. When people died, they fucking died!

But no, this is Disney, can't have it be too scary or else you'll ruin children forever...-_-

I hope for good, but I expect the worst....but if they get M. Night in on this project like they did Avatar...I will burn some shit.
 

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Screamarie said:
I hope for good, but I expect the worst....but if they get M. Night in on this project like they did Avatar...I will burn some shit.
Relax, Shyamalan's film career is over. He will be making After Earths for the Will Smiths of the world for the rest of his life.

That's not to say it won't be bad, it just won't be Shyamalan.