Someone actually died! (ME 2 SPOILERIFIC)

[TPiddy]

So, I just hit the Omega 4 Relay in my second ME 2 playthrough, and, having sided with Legion in the Tali / Legion argument, lost Tali's loyalty.

Since my first playthrough was way to easy to have everyone survive, I decided to take a few shortcuts this time around. I lost Tali's loyalty, I failed Samara's loyalty mission, and I opted not to purchase the kinetic barriers, causing Legion to get blown up in the engine core (What the hell was he doing there anyhow?).

So, I sent Tali into the pipe during the final mission, and she made it all the way to the end, and as we were closing the doors during the regroup cut scene, Tali took a shot to the face from the Harbinger. This caught me completely off-guard and I was once again enthralled by ME 2. I am tempted to play through the whole thing again just to go in with no loyalty or upgrades and see what happens.

So, my discussion points are as follows:

1. Did it irk you somewhat that no one HAD to die as in the first one?
2. Did you find yourself picking and choosing who died in order to change things up?
3. Did any of those said deaths catch you off-guard? Are any of them really cool?

 

[ryai458]

None of my squad mates died in my second playthrough I was on Insanity as well. Great game I actually need to download DLC and play more.

 

[Legion]

1: No, I like the option of it. It means I can feel good as I got everyone through alive.
2: Not as such, although on my insanity play through I let Zaeed die by picking him to escort the crew back while not loyal.
3: No, as I knew Zaeed would die and have never lost anyone in my other two playthroughs.

To be honest I don't get how anyone could accidentally lose anyone, the team needing to be loyal was stamped into your brain about a dozen times so it was obvious that any non-loyal team-mates would probably die. Most of the upgrades to the ship (Armour, Shields and Cannon) had no use throughout the game so they were clearly for the finale too and so getting the before the Omega 4 relay seemed pretty standard.

 

[TPiddy]

None of my squad mates died in my second playthrough I was on Insanity as well. Great game I actually need to download DLC and play more.

Yeah, do it! I just got the Hammerhead and it's a lot of fun to drive.... why couldn't we have this on every planet?

 

[TPiddy]

1: No, I like the option of it. It means I can feel good as I got everyone through alive.
2: Not as such, although on my insanity play through I let Zaeed die by picking him to escort the crew back while not loyal.
3: No, as I knew Zaeed would die and have never lost anyone in my other two playthroughs.

So the escort death... you don't really see anything?

 

[tzimize]

I HATE the thought of someone of my crew dying, at least if I can do nothing about it. In ME1 it was a bit meh because I couldnt stand Ashley OR that other guy, but in ME2 I liked most of the cast. I like playing the good guy, and I enjoy taking care of my crew so I have them loyal.

The final mission in ME2 was some of the finest gaming I have ever done in my quite long gaming career (I've been around since amiga). When I got to choose who should do what an enormous sense of responsibility fell on me, and it was AWESOME. I have never felt quite as much as Commander Shepard as I did those moments. I had to analyze my crews abilities, and chose someone who could to the job, and also someone the rest (and me) could trust.

1. No it did not irk me at all. A death in a game is only terrible if the creators have made you care about the one who dies, and I love being able to do something about it. I also love that they CAN die...that way something is really at stake.

2. I've considered this but even in my renegade playthrough I didnt manage to be enough of an asshole to send people to their deaths for the hell of it.

3. I was caught a bit off guard when I picked one of the "lesser" biotics for the shielding run and they didnt make it. The death scenes I've seen are all a bit out of nowhere and all caught me off guard.

 

[Legion]

1: No, I like the option of it. It means I can feel good as I got everyone through alive.
2: Not as such, although on my insanity play through I let Zaeed die by picking him to escort the crew back while not loyal.
3: No, as I knew Zaeed would die and have never lost anyone in my other two playthroughs.

So the escort death... you don't really see anything?

At the point where EDI calls you up to say the status of them she said something like: "The crew have made it back safely, Zaeed stayed behind to buy them time, he didn't make it."

 

[TPiddy]

So the escort death... you don't really see anything?

At the point where EDI calls you up to say the status of them she said something like: "The crew have made it back safely, Zaeed stayed behind to buy them time, he didn't make it."

Ah, ok, thanks... I think I won't bother with that one

 

[L3m0n_L1m3]

My first playthrough, Mordin died.

It didn't even showed how. He was just laying there as we ran back to the ship.

I immediately reloaded my last save (right before I went into the relay) and made sure I kept him in my team at all times.

 

[TPiddy]

3. I was caught a bit off guard when I picked one of the "lesser" biotics for the shielding run and they didnt make it. The death scenes I've seen are all a bit out of nowhere and all caught me off guard.

Hmm, I chose a non-loyal Samara to do that for me, but I haven't reached the end yet so we'll see if she survives. I think if she does I'll try it again. Someone like Jacob would be a lesser biotic? What if your own character is biotic? Can you use them?

 

[Ralen-Sharr]

I had someone die on first play through and redid it and changed a few choices, had another person die, redid it again and everyone survived. I really don't like losing team members (although losing Jack wouldn't have bothered me)

 

[TPiddy]

My first playthrough, Mordin died.

It didn't even showed how. He was just laying there as we ran back to the ship.

I immediately reloaded my last save (right before I went into the relay) and made sure I kept him in my team at all times.

Hmmm, that's odd.... I assume he wasn't loyal? I would not want him to die though, probably one of the best characters they made....

"flammable... or inflammable... I don't remember which... but it doesn't matter".

 

[L3m0n_L1m3]

My first playthrough, Mordin died.

It didn't even showed how. He was just laying there as we ran back to the ship.

I immediately reloaded my last save (right before I went into the relay) and made sure I kept him in my team at all times.

Hmmm, that's odd.... I assume he wasn't loyal? I would not want him to die though, probably one of the best characters they made....

"flammable... or inflammable... I don't remember which... but it doesn't matter".

He was loyal, and that's what I really didn't understand.

And yes, he was definitely my favorite character in the game.

 

[tzimize]

3. I was caught a bit off guard when I picked one of the "lesser" biotics for the shielding run and they didnt make it. The death scenes I've seen are all a bit out of nowhere and all caught me off guard.

Hmm, I chose a non-loyal Samara to do that for me, but I haven't reached the end yet so we'll see if she survives. I think if she does I'll try it again. Someone like Jacob would be a lesser biotic? What if your own character is biotic? Can you use them?

You cant use yourself, and yes I mean someone like Jacob. I guess Samara/Jack can also fail if they are not loyal.

 

[FlaktheFox]

First time I played it I wanted to get myself in the best possible position for the third so I made sure to do all the loyalty missions, all the upgrades (Even the ones which weren't actually needed), and just for the hell of it, complete every side mission before hitting the last mission before the Omega 4 relay. I have Legion go through the pipes, Garrus as my second squad leader, had Samara as my biotic, Jacob as my escort (I never liked him) and had Jack and Thane with me the whole time. When all was said and done no one died and I did the good ending. I am SO looking forward to the finale.

 

[Vrex360]

I gotta say, I worked like crazy doing loyalty missions and resource mining and ship upgrading and weapon upgrading for the final mission because I did not want to lose anyone, least of all Garrus or Tali simply because they had been with me in Mass Effect 1, it only seemed fair that they live.
Plus I myself did not want to die either.

Still even though the mining was boring as hell, all the work payed off and the realisation that there is a chance people can die in cinematics just gave it a whole new 'edge' that the previous game lacked. Because in the previous game after Virmire you know everyone is going to live, but here... no idea if that'll be the case.
I only played through the suicide mission once and I did not lose anyone at all and man... I was on top of the world when that happened. Afterwards I vowed that on every playthrough I have everyone live.

As a note though, I haven't been able to relive the glory due to my Xbox being taken in for repairs during the middle of my second playthrough (on another account) so I'll have to wait to relive the awesomeness.

 

[TPiddy]

You cant use yourself, and yes I mean someone like Jacob. I guess Samara/Jack can also fail if they are not loyal.

I'll let you know

 

[TPiddy]

He was loyal, and that's what I really didn't understand.

And yes, he was definitely my favorite character in the game.

Hmm, interesting... I think I may need to take him with me more....

 

[TPiddy]

I gotta say, I worked like crazy doing loyalty missions and resource mining and ship upgrading and weapon upgrading for the final mission because I did not want to lose anyone, least of all Garrus or Tali simply because they had been with me in Mass Effect 1, it only seemed fair that they live.
Plus I myself did not want to die either.

Still even though the mining was boring as hell, all the work payed off and the realisation that there is a chance people can die in cinematics just gave it a whole new 'edge' that the previous game lacked. Because in the previous game after Virmire you know everyone is going to live, but here... no idea if that'll be the case.
I only played through the suicide mission once and I did not lose anyone at all and man... I was on top of the world when that happened. Afterwards I vowed that on every playthrough I have everyone live.

As a note though, I haven't been able to relive the glory due to my Xbox being taken in for repairs during the middle of my second playthrough (on another account) so I'll have to wait to relive the awesomeness.

I just felt, after the initial success, that it was too easy... I actually hit 47 of 51 achievements in 1 playthrough, everyone lived and I was the hero. All too easy. At least in the first one it was like "success... but at what cost?" It made you think and I liked that. This victory will definitely be a lot more somber as I've already lost Tali and Legion, and will likely lose Samara as well .

 

[Legion]

I gotta say, I worked like crazy doing loyalty missions and resource mining and ship upgrading and weapon upgrading for the final mission because I did not want to lose anyone, least of all Garrus or Tali simply because they had been with me in Mass Effect 1, it only seemed fair that they live.
Plus I myself did not want to die either.

Still even though the mining was boring as hell, all the work payed off and the realisation that there is a chance people can die in cinematics just gave it a whole new 'edge' that the previous game lacked. Because in the previous game after Virmire you know everyone is going to live, but here... no idea if that'll be the case.
I only played through the suicide mission once and I did not lose anyone at all and man... I was on top of the world when that happened. Afterwards I vowed that on every playthrough I have everyone live.

As a note though, I haven't been able to relive the glory due to my Xbox being taken in for repairs during the middle of my second playthrough (on another account) so I'll have to wait to relive the awesomeness.

I just felt, after the initial success, that it was too easy... I actually hit 47 of 51 achievements in 1 playthrough, everyone lived and I was the hero. All too easy. At least in the first one it was like "success... but at what cost?"

True, but seeing as it's part 2 of a trilogy they wouldn't want the ending to feel the same as the first. I think the ending cut-scene set up the next one nicely, although I do wonder how they are going to do the intro/tutorial this time.

I also had 47/51 on my first play through (Damn incineration/overload achievments).