Spore is a PC (for now) god game under development by Maxis and designed by Will Wright that allows a player to control the evolution of a species from its existence as a multicellular organism to a spacefaring sapient creature. The game has drawn wide attention for its massive scope, and its promise to simulate this development of a species through open-ended gameplay using procedural generation.
Spore, most innovative game ever ?
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Hyperbole aside, I am personally looking forward to it. I have already said I am a huge fan of sim games aside from "the sims" which I feel should be renamed "Dolly Dress-Up for middle aged men with control issues."
I wouldn't go and call a game the most anything until it's released and I play it for myself. It's been a long time in development, but it may end up biting off more than it can chew. It's aiming to integrate a lot of different gameplay mechanics, but in the end it could very well produce mediocre gameplay at each "phase" of the game and it could be a massive disappointment.
I'm looking forward to it, but hype is a game's worst enemy. It sets up unrealistic expectations and even if a game is well above average, hype can make it feel like far less. Being cautious is always a good idea.
I'm looking forward to it, but hype is a game's worst enemy. It sets up unrealistic expectations and even if a game is well above average, hype can make it feel like far less. Being cautious is always a good idea.
Most innovative may be a bit overstating it. It's unfortunately the next logical evolution in the sequence of Sim games although not a lot of people refer to it as a Sim game. First you had the city, tower, town, household, you started controlling many aspects of people's lives first on a large scale to a much smaller. Now it's taking the control to an even smaller scale but stretching the development to a huge scale. If any part of these games were innovative it was the original Sim City, everything after is unfortunately a spin-off and less innovative by comparison.
We might as well call Rocky Balboa the most innovative of the Rocky movies (consider it the best for a moment), just because the last is the best at doing what they've all been doing doesn't make it the most innovative, Spore is just a new application to the same concepts we've been seeing for more than a decade now.
That aside I do feel Spore will be outstanding and I do have quite a few friends looking forward to it.
We might as well call Rocky Balboa the most innovative of the Rocky movies (consider it the best for a moment), just because the last is the best at doing what they've all been doing doesn't make it the most innovative, Spore is just a new application to the same concepts we've been seeing for more than a decade now.
That aside I do feel Spore will be outstanding and I do have quite a few friends looking forward to it.
aye i agree with the above poster the games have basically been management:
first city scale
next town scale
household scale
person scale
now Cellular scale
but spore instead of just being the last and most detailed level takes it a bit further, you start in the cell stage moving up and through the other 'Sim Eras' until after passing city level you get to something new galactic level but with the same ammount of detail and control as cellular level, to me this tells me that this game IS innovative, well as much as the genre allows.
Not only does it start and 'end' (seeing as the game has no real end) with something new, from what ive seen in previews its all quality, its very very late and im really tired so i wont elaborate on the whole procedural animation, making your unbeliavably customizable critter etc.
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first city scale
next town scale
household scale
person scale
now Cellular scale
but spore instead of just being the last and most detailed level takes it a bit further, you start in the cell stage moving up and through the other 'Sim Eras' until after passing city level you get to something new galactic level but with the same ammount of detail and control as cellular level, to me this tells me that this game IS innovative, well as much as the genre allows.
Not only does it start and 'end' (seeing as the game has no real end) with something new, from what ive seen in previews its all quality, its very very late and im really tired so i wont elaborate on the whole procedural animation, making your unbeliavably customizable critter etc.
night night
The first thing I'm going to (as I've stated previously) is creat a race of giant penis's. Why? Because it's immature, playing with a mature game engine. A race of penis's first battle the elements, creat a tribe, a ciclizations... penis's with guns and tanks! Nah, my penis's will ride in EVA's!! Then they will go on and conqure distant planets in order of there giant penis overlord! BWAHAHAHA!!
Wow, I used the word penis alot just then.
Wow, I used the word penis alot just then.
I wouldn't call it the most innovative game ever as it is not out yet. The most innovative game ever would have to be pong. It was the first home game system. How you can say that another game is more innovative then pong is beyond me, unless talking about a specific genre.
I did originally found the concept and scope ingenious however I'm starting to doubt the variaty lurking under the hood. I'm trying to keep this nice and low on the hype radar until it comes out. I find Spore very amusing in the sense that if you watch the Old Hour long GDC Spore video (2006 i think) Will says that they wanted to cut development time and costs by reducing the amount of artwork, modelling and animation needed. Which is great apart from the fact that they then have to spend another three years creating the game to get it all working correctly. I suppose being a man in Will's Position you can do what you like and take as long as you like doing it, after all its not like he is going to lose money on it.
One thing is certain at this point, they will somehow make up expansion packs for it. I'm guessing one that has lots of Googley Eyes and various other appendages.
One thing is certain at this point, they will somehow make up expansion packs for it. I'm guessing one that has lots of Googley Eyes and various other appendages.
No, I would think The Sims would be the most innovative game ever. Before The Sims, there just wasn't anything like it, and it sold like hot cakes laced with crack.
I'm going to wait and see if Spore can live up to the hype, but hey, it's Will Wright y'all.
I'm going to wait and see if Spore can live up to the hype, but hey, it's Will Wright y'all.
Yeh way to soon to comment on this. I'm not falling for any hype atm though. I'm just afraid it'l get boring real quick, tinkering everything exterior wise is cool but it doesn't have any lasting appeal to me. For me to really get into it, the game would have to use complex social structures, diplomacy, racial issues, heck just about everything.
I got bored with the sims after 2 weeks, had the most fun actually burning them alive with the cheap kitchen material. ( if you're bored, try surrounding them with wooden chairs and letting them use the cheap kitchen stove without any skill, it's guaranteed to burn )So I don't get what's so great about that game, most women only play that gamewise.
Anyway, high hopes but so far wait and see.
I got bored with the sims after 2 weeks, had the most fun actually burning them alive with the cheap kitchen material. ( if you're bored, try surrounding them with wooden chairs and letting them use the cheap kitchen stove without any skill, it's guaranteed to burn )So I don't get what's so great about that game, most women only play that gamewise.
Anyway, high hopes but so far wait and see.
Hate to poop on the party but the previews I've seen have said they were a bit disappointed with how inorganic the evolution felt. They said it was just a sort of cellular level mini-game, then you designed a creature and went around eating things, and then it was a sim-city style game, soforth. A bit like how Molyneux promised a real, amazing aging system in Fable but in the end we just got a transition from childhood to adulthood consisting of 'childhood finished: would you like to become an adult? A for yes, B for no.' That pissed me off.
BUT, you gotta have faith in these things. If they can make the transitions between stages a bit smoother then I could be convinced.
BUT, you gotta have faith in these things. If they can make the transitions between stages a bit smoother then I could be convinced.
I agree with Gigantor, with exception in one thing. Childhood to adulthood evolution actually develops in such a manner, only Fable forgot the third option: Press Y for "I'm a grown up already! You can't tell me what to do! No one understands me."
I liked the idea (ideas?) of Spore, but I never really got the point of the game. I know it is, like, the ultimate sandbox or something. But there's a difference from actually having a defined sandbox and calling a tropical beach a sandbox.
At first I was happy, "Hey, an evolution game!" then I went "Wait, now I control several copies of myself? We're Sim citying?" to finally "I became God? Seriously, what is my purpose here?". Spore just doesn't seem to decide what kind of role you have. And it confuses me.
I liked the idea (ideas?) of Spore, but I never really got the point of the game. I know it is, like, the ultimate sandbox or something. But there's a difference from actually having a defined sandbox and calling a tropical beach a sandbox.
At first I was happy, "Hey, an evolution game!" then I went "Wait, now I control several copies of myself? We're Sim citying?" to finally "I became God? Seriously, what is my purpose here?". Spore just doesn't seem to decide what kind of role you have. And it confuses me.
A God game focused on evolution, first class irony.
If Spore contained a multiplayer feature in which all players were in the same universe, rather than downloaded and controlled by some random AI. The game would be awesome, mass slaughter of innocent children's creations. Bliss.
Shame it's single player.
If Spore contained a multiplayer feature in which all players were in the same universe, rather than downloaded and controlled by some random AI. The game would be awesome, mass slaughter of innocent children's creations. Bliss.
Shame it's single player.
So. Last I heard, this game was nearly done to the point the guy was showing off every little thing in it and giving to people to try. So when's it going to hit our shelves, or has it been delayed, or what?
actually its part single and part multiplayer game meaning that while u play the game other ppl's content will be downloadedFrapple said: