Star Wars 7 has R2D2

[KazeAizen]

Now I'm sure this is major shock to you all (not). Still some people appear surprised that R2D2 is in this as apparently they thought that him and C3P0 were not going to be in the new trilogy. However I've come to talk about the reactions to said announcement. Not the announcement itself. Here is the article if you are interested. and it is interesting

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/2013/11/19/r2-d2-is-in-star-wars-episode-7-and-hes-fan-made/

Anyway on the facebook feed link which I can't show you the comments section blew up. Some along the lines of RIP Star Wars and other such nonsense. I can't be the only one now who is sick to death of all these negative nellies harshing everyone's buzz around new Star Wars news. In a post prequel world it appears anything regarding a new Star Wars movie is met with skepticism at best or out right contempt because there is an imaginary wall that's been damaged beyond repair by the prequels or some other more clever metaphor. One person even made the comment of "I thought you had to hide any love of SW if you worked for Lucasfilm?" I can't be the only one sick to freaking death of people beating that dead horse and already determined to hate the film just because its not part of the original trilogy.

 

[Reed Spacer]

Hey, considering the mass-clusterfuck I-III became, can you blame them?

 

[KazeAizen]

Hey, considering the mass-clusterfuck I-III became, can you blame them?

Yes. Yes I can. Apparently in terms of movies the phrase. "time heals all wounds." doesn't apply.

 

[tippy2k2]

My hopes for the future of Star Wars was slight optimism but something like this drops that down to cautious optimism (and if it keeps going down that path, it'll just drop completely out).

That's not because I think that it's bad because "it's not part of the original trilogy and therefore can't be good". This is a Red Flag to me because it's repeating the same mistakes that Lucas made with I-III; namely, the entire God damn universe has the same dozen people doing everything. A Red Flag doesn't mean it's going to be bad but this is Red Flag #2 for me (#1 being that they're going to pump out a Star Wars movie every year [http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/04/17/star-wars-movies-2015/]).

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Lucas has been saying that C-3P0 and R2-D2 would be the only two characters to show up in all of the films since he was still talking about his 12 movie plan. They were based on two characters from Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress, who didn't actually do anything important to the plot, but were the characters whose perspective we saw the movie from. Lucas liked that enough that he wanted to extend it to all of his movies, or at least to reference it by keeping his robotic expys of those two characters around. The only big surprise you could have regarding whether or not those two would be in a new movie is if they somehow weren't.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

R2D2 and C3PO are a must-have at this point. They're the Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck of Star Wars. They sell shit-tons of toys and make the product instantly and easily recognizable. It'd be a very bad idea not to include them in one fashion or another.

 

[Veylon]

There are reasons to be wary of the new Star Wars movies, but having the droids isn't one of them. I'd be more worried if the headline was "R2-D2 and C-3PO not in Star Wars VII".

 

[josemlopes]

Wasnt that the point? With the exception of Darth Vader (the 6 movies are his story after all) these two droids are the ones that have been there from the start of the journey to the very end and since they are at most espectators of the events it was kind of expected for them to espectate the events of the new story.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Makes me glad I am not going to bother watching these movies. The reason why I don't like it, is GL saying that 'Grey Jedi are kidding themselves.'

Impressive considering that when the Jedi were taught how to use the force, their teachers were neutral, I believe...

 

[GodzillaGuy92]

Yes. Yes I can. Apparently in terms of movies the phrase. "time heals all wounds." doesn't apply.

Well, yeah. Because it doesn't. The prequels now being a decade old doesn't magically make them any less horrible. Not only is it nearly always for the best to let an initially-good franchise die by the time it starts going downhill, but as noted before, repeated signs that the new films will continue (or even worsen) the prequels' pitfalls aren't - and shouldn't be - immune to scrutiny. Though it should be stated that, since we have no overt reason to believe that R2 and 3PO wouldn't still be in Luke's possession at the time of the film, this at least seems organic to the plot even though we all know the real reason they're in there is so Disney can shamelessly market them and make a bazillion more Star Wars toy sales than they already will.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

Their presence in the prequels doesn't mesh with the original trilogy AT ALL.

How does Obi Wan not remember them in A New Hope? One of the droids was HAND BUILT BY ANAKIN, his apprentice, "friend" and nemesis all rolled into one, and the other SAVED HIS LIFE during a blockade run and fought alongside himself and Anakin during the clone wars.

It makes more sense in a sequel trilogy though, what with having saved everyones asses on multiple occasions. Unless things have changed, from my understanding much of the original casting will appear in the new trilogy... the extent of which is yet to be known, though I hope it doesn't focus on Luke and friends since their story has been told. So having R2 make a reappearance, at the very least, makes a lot of sense since he his an important fixture of the original crew. C3PO can't be far behind either since the 2 are practically a set.

 

[Xariat]

RIP star wars? really? I thought it died with The Phantom Menace. And if it didn't die with that it would have died in the lands of Lucas eventually anyway.

Also R2D2 is the commercial mother lode of Star Wars, it's easy to see why Disney would want to include him.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

This thread actually got me kinda giddy and excited for the new movie. Way more so than any other announcement so far.

Something about actually picturing the main characters of the biggest popular culture and entertainment phenomenon in history being on the big screen again reawakens a bit of the childlike wonder.

The reasonable part of me is still saying it's going to be mediocre regardless of all the major characters they put it, but I'm letting myself get more than a bit optimistic.

Though seeing JJ Abrams standing next to R2 with that fucking smug expression has soured my spirits a bit.

 

[Hawkeye21]

Hey, considering the mass-clusterfuck I-III became, can you blame them?

Yes. Yes I can. Apparently in terms of movies the phrase. "time heals all wounds." doesn't apply.

Considering they are heavily relying on Lucas' "consulting" I am not holding my breath for new movies. Lucas should be barred from anything related to SW by a restraining order or something...

 

[RicoADF]

Yes. Yes I can. Apparently in terms of movies the phrase. "time heals all wounds." doesn't apply.

Well, yeah. Because it doesn't. The prequels now being a decade old doesn't magically make them any less horrible. Not only is it nearly always for the best to let an initially-good franchise die by the time it starts going downhill, but as noted before, repeated signs that the new films will continue (or even worsen) the prequels' pitfalls aren't - and shouldn't be - immune to scrutiny. Though it should be stated that, since we have no overt reason to believe that R2 and 3PO wouldn't still be in Luke's possession at the time of the film, this at least seems organic to the plot even though we all know the real reason they're in there is so Disney can shamelessly market them and make a bazillion more Star Wars toy sales than they already will.

While I agree Disney would happily keep them in to sell toys, I recall reading that the droids were always planed to be in each of the movies as they were (in a matter of perspective) the ones we were seeing the story through or something to that extent. Kind of makes sense too, they are droids and as long as they are maintained their 'lives' aren't as limited as ours.

Their presence in the prequels doesn't mesh with the original trilogy AT ALL.

How does Obi Wan not remember them in A New Hope? One of the droids was HAND BUILT BY ANAKIN, his apprentice, "friend" and nemesis all rolled into one, and the other SAVED HIS LIFE during a blockade run and fought alongside himself and Anakin during the clone wars.

It makes more sense in a sequel trilogy though, what with having saved everyones asses on multiple occasions. Unless things have changed, from my understanding much of the original casting will appear in the new trilogy... the extent of which is yet to be known, though I hope it doesn't focus on Luke and friends since their story has been told. So having R2 make a reappearance, at the very least, makes a lot of sense since he his an important fixture of the original crew. C3PO can't be far behind either since the 2 are practically a set.

C3PO does look alittle different, and protocol droids do look alike, I suspect he's seen hundreds if not more, and R2D2 did recognise him, guess it was his age catching up with him

 

[Stu35]

Star Wars 7 has R2D2

Of course it does. He's the main protagonist. The most relate-able character. The only one who's dialogue isn't completely fucking retarded across all 6 currently existing films.

But seriously, from a story perspective I've no dramas with the Robots being in 7-9, as long as they're not being shoe-horned in like pretty much every previously identified character in the prequel trilogy (Yoda missing Chewbacca is a scene which, as a child, I would have killed for, as an adult it made me cry, and not because it's an emotional scene).

From a marketing perspective, I expect Disney to pull every dirty trick they have, including shoe-horning every character that ever had an action figure in.

I expect Boba Fett to turn up in 7-9 somewhere, He managed to turn up in the expanded universe on some flimsy pretext, so I reckon Disney will be riding the Boba Fett fanclub all the way to the bank.


Y'know what's truly fucked up about this whole thing? I actually don't care. I've somehow transcended the angry, nigh-on fanboyish opinions I used to hold about the Star Wars universe outside the original trilogy, and now I plan on just enjoying the ride. I even manage to enjoy Phantom Menace these days (because Liam Neeson is fucking awesome).

 

[Stinovitch]

RIP star wars? really? I don't really see this as a bad thing per se, but I do hope they'll be background characters instead of part of the main cast. It isn't a bad thing to reference the previous movies, but VII shouldn't make the same mistake the prequels did by overdoing it. And for the RIP star wars thing: don't be too dramtic, people. Star wars still has a lot to offer.

 

[idarkphoenixi]

Well of course he's in Episode 7, gotta put every single marketable character possible in this movie or else it just wouldn't be Star Wars!

After all, the Star Wars universe is apparently really tiny and full of massive coincidences. Even the entire clone army was made up of millions of Boba Fett's, because he was kind of cool for those 5 minutes of screen time right?

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

They won't be able to merchandise as much if they don't squeeze in every single reference to every existing Star Wars movie that they can.