Star Wars Rebels Season 3 "Twin Suns" discussion (spoilers)

[Kolby Jack]

We finally got it. After waiting for the entire season to see what would happen in Obi-Wan and Maul's fated meeting on Tatooine, we finally got to see it. Obviously Obi-Wan wouldn't die because... movies... but there was still a lot that we could have seen.

I, for one, was very satisfied. While a prolonged fight would have been exciting, it wouldn't have made much sense for a wizened Kenobi to struggle against someone he has beaten multiple times in the past, especially when that someone has gone kind of insane. The build-up to the clash was great, too, very samurai-esque.

I also loved the way Obi-Wan just pitied Maul, even seeming to be disappointed that Maul's last thoughts were of vengeance. The voice work was good too, they pretty much got Alec Guinness down well.

If I had to nitpick the episode, I'm not sure I liked Ezra's involvement all that much. Once again he got tricked by Maul and didn't see it until someone told him, and once again he shows back up after running off and doesn't get so much as a slap on the wrist.

And it looks like Disney is firmly enforcing the "Luke is the chosen one, not Anakin" argument. Though I'm sure detractors will just say it's Obi-Wan's opinion. Eh.

 

[Tanis]

At first I didn't liked it, but then I realized it was very much 'classic samurai' (which the original movies were partly based off, so it grew on me.

Also: Did you notice how the ending invoked Qui-Gon's death?
Even how Obi-Wan held Maul was like he held Qui-Gon.

Of course, this just makes me more and more worried about how everyone in the Ghost is going to die.
Season 4's confirmed, but I just don't see most of the Ghost crew surviving till 'A New Hope'.

 

[DarklordKyo]

At first I didn't liked it, but then I realized it was very much 'classic samurai' (which the original movies were partly based off, so it grew on me.

Also: Did you notice how the ending invoked Qui-Gon's death?
Even how Obi-Wan held Maul was like he held Qui-Gon.

Of course, this just makes me more and more worried about how everyone in the Ghost is going to die.
Season 4's confirmed, but I just don't see most of the Ghost crew surviving till 'A New Hope'.

Well, Hera did get an offhand mention in Rogue One, didn't she? (not to mention the Ghost itself making a cameo). Since they're making sure the canon is ironclad now (or, at least, as ironclad as possible), she's guaranteed to survive at least (unless someone else has her surname that happens to be an ace pilot in the rebellion).

 

[Veldel]

At first I didn't liked it, but then I realized it was very much 'classic samurai' (which the original movies were partly based off, so it grew on me.

Also: Did you notice how the ending invoked Qui-Gon's death?
Even how Obi-Wan held Maul was like he held Qui-Gon.

Of course, this just makes me more and more worried about how everyone in the Ghost is going to die.
Season 4's confirmed, but I just don't see most of the Ghost crew surviving till 'A New Hope'.

Well, Hera did get an offhand mention in Rogue One, didn't she? (not to mention the Ghost itself making a cameo). Since they're making sure the canon is ironclad now (or, at least, as ironclad as possible), she's guaranteed to survive at least (unless someone else has her surname that happens to be an ace pilot in the rebellion).

Chopper was on screen in Rogue One to.

OT: The fight in the end was perfect it had so much emotion and everything in it. A fight doesn't need to be long to be good. and by god it felt like a classic samurai fight from movies.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Also: Did you notice how the ending invoked Qui-Gon's death?
Even how Obi-Wan held Maul was like he held Qui-Gon.

Also did you know that move Maul used to strike Obi down was the same finishing move that took down Qui-Gon?

OT- Sure like everyone else I was expecting a epic and long fight but overall I found the actual fight to be poetic in a way. Obi taken him down in one move only just reinforce just how powerful he had become, turly a Jedi master.
Also the way he hold Maul like a dying friend or rather not an enemy since he did refer to Maul as a old wound. It did make me pity Maul since afterall he was suffering all this time like revenge and grief (losing everything to Papaltine). The whole "he will avenge us" just reinforce this.

The only nitpick I got is Obi-Wan instantly knew Erza name and kinda already know why he was there. I guessing this is the Force doing. Also how did Erza get back since the window to the A-wing was damaged and he was onboard one of the Mandalore ship aswell.

 

[happyninja42]

I'm bummed because that means that Sam Witwer's involvement in the show will be very limited now. Which bums me out because I really like that guy, and enjoy seeing him have regular work.

 

[Saltyk]

The duel was damn near perfect. As others have pointed out, it was very Samurai which works for Star Wars. And how they handled Maul's death was also great. Really shows what Rebels can be when it wants to.

The rest of the episode, I'm not quite as happy about. Ezra felt like he was just there to tie in the Rebels show to the whole thing. Not saying I hated it, just felt like that could have been better.

 

[happyninja42]

The duel was damn near perfect. As others have pointed out, it was very Samurai which works for Star Wars. And how they handled Maul's death was also great. Really shows what Rebels can be when it wants to.

The rest of the episode, I'm not quite as happy about. Ezra felt like he was just there to tie in the Rebels show to the whole thing. Not saying I hated it, just felt like that could have been better.

Ezra does seem to just stumble through things being headstrong and stubborn. It's one of the reasons I got tired of the show with this season. Also with how they've handled some things. Like how in that one episode, Ezra's master (name escapes me atm), goes to the big alien to "keep the sith holocron safe", and they go back to reclaim it in the very next damn episode!. I mean...WHY?! Why even bother if you're not going to let that build for a while in a story arc.

 

[Kolby Jack]

The only nitpick I got is Obi-Wan instantly knew Erza name and kinda already know why he was there. I guessing this is the Force doing. Also how did Erza get back since the window to the A-wing was damaged and he was onboard one of the Mandalore ship aswell.

The ship Ezra went back with was Maul's, hence why Zeb figured it meant Maul was dead. And as for Obi-Wan knowing Ezra's name, Chopper was reactivated before Ezra woke up so he might have told Obi-Wan (no reason to hide anything from one of the greatest generals of the Old Republic, after all).

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Well, Hera did get an offhand mention in Rogue One, didn't she? (not to mention the Ghost itself making a cameo). Since they're making sure the canon is ironclad now (or, at least, as ironclad as possible), she's guaranteed to survive at least (unless someone else has her surname that happens to be an ace pilot in the rebellion).

Her father does, so it could have been him they were calling. But odds are it was a shout out to Hera for us Rebels fans.

I was kind of disappointed in the fight. The build up to it was great, their dialogue was great, Obi's voice actor was spot on. Everything else about it was amazing, and while I get the whole "samurai" thing everyone keeps comparing it to, I wanted a bit more. Did I want them doing flips and spins all over in the sand at their age? No. Did I want something like Vader vs. Ahsoka? No. But I would have liked the fight to go a bit longer. Perhaps Obi could have tried talking Maul down for a bit, but once it became clear that wasn't happening, then he has no choice. Or even for Maul to get in a few more strikes. While I appreciate the quickness and what it says, it was also a bit of a letdown for something they've been building up since the start of the season. Blink-and-you-miss-it sort of thing.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

I'm glad we got practically no look at Luke.

And the duel was pretty cool. Very much Obi-wan, defensive, waiting for the enemy to make a mistake.

 

[Dansen]

Well, Hera did get an offhand mention in Rogue One, didn't she? (not to mention the Ghost itself making a cameo). Since they're making sure the canon is ironclad now (or, at least, as ironclad as possible), she's guaranteed to survive at least (unless someone else has her surname that happens to be an ace pilot in the rebellion).

Her father does, so it could have been him they were calling. But odds are it was a shout out to Hera for us Rebels fans.

I was kind of disappointed in the fight. The build up to it was great, their dialogue was great, Obi's voice actor was spot on. Everything else about it was amazing, and while I get the whole "samurai" thing everyone keeps comparing it to, I wanted a bit more. Did I want them doing flips and spins all over in the sand at their age? No. Did I want something like Vader vs. Ahsoka? No. But I would have liked the fight to go a bit longer. Perhaps Obi could have tried talking Maul down for a bit, but once it became clear that wasn't happening, then he has no choice. Or even for Maul to get in a few more strikes. While I appreciate the quickness and what it says, it was also a bit of a letdown for something they've been building up since the start of the season. Blink-and-you-miss-it sort of thing.

It was probably short due to format constraints. Gotta keep it in the time slot. Although I do agree, the end seemed rather abrupt for how much they were building this up and hyping the confrontation. It should have been a two parter.

Something interesting to note about there fight is that Obi-Wan and maul do the same stances and moves as when Maul kills Qui-Gon in episode 1. Except that Obi-Wan ducks Maul's jab leaving Maul open to a killing blow. Its a neat parallel. "Its like poetry sorta...they rhyme..."