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Funny people likes the Clone Wars cartoon even though its still heavily tied with the Prequel Movies?

The Anakin we see here is still the same "I don't like sand" Anakin from Attack of the Clones.
 

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Silentpony said:
Wait, I thought Clone Wars ended and Rebels took off where they left off?!
There were actually plans for a couple more seasons after that that got the shaft. They were able to release season 6 after the show got canceled because it was basically finished, but the plan was to have, at the very least, a season 7 and 8.

I remember seeing some unfinished animation for the episodes in season 7 such as the Bad Batch and included voice acting as well as music. They were pretty much early and unfinished, but they did have plenty of scripted material they were gonna use if continued.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Funny people likes the Clone Wars cartoon even though its still heavily tied with the Prequel Movies?

The Anakin we see here is still the same "I don't like sand" Anakin from Attack of the Clones.

I think its mostly due to better writing is why.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Funny people likes the Clone Wars cartoon even though its still heavily tied with the Prequel Movies?

The Anakin we see here is still the same "I don't like sand" Anakin from Attack of the Clones.
For better and for worse, Clone Wars tones down a lot of the prequels. .. idiosyncrasies. Anakin's awkwardness being one of them. Again, for better and for worse. I'mean still not entirely sure if Christensen was too bad or too good for the role because, you know, when it came to portraying and emotionally stunted youth who grew up as a slave until being taken in by a cult, had a relationship he had drilled into his head would be sure to corrupt him and had strong violent tendencies because of it... he fucking nailed it. I mean, he grew up on a desert planet and then he actually starts talking about sand when he's on a date! In a way it's a wonderful little character moment.

Clone Wars made him a bit more of a conventional leading man, though with still sort of an edge to him. Clone Wars is a good show that does a good job of fleshing out... well, the clone wars though it does come at the cost of overelaborating on a lot of the more vague aspects of the prequels.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Funny people likes the Clone Wars cartoon even though its still heavily tied with the Prequel Movies?

The Anakin we see here is still the same "I don't like sand" Anakin from Attack of the Clones.
It's funny yeah. I've got a weird relationship with the prequels, I think they're bad movies but I still will watch them every once and a while and I legitimately love a lot of the stuff they added to the lore of Star Wars. I thought Clone Troopers were the coolest thing back in high school when Attack of The Clones and the original Clone Wars cartoon came out.
 

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More Anakin? More Obi-wan? More Ahsoka? Count me in!

Still not interested in Episode 9 though.
I think Ahsoka is supposed to show up in the Siege of Mandalore arc but most of this is after her departure from the Jedi ranks due the Jedi Council being total dicks in regards to her being fitted up by Barriss Offee.

So not a recurring character but she should show up once.
 

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Alright I'll keep this quick because I just came off a double so quick post before bed.

Silentpony said:
Wait, I thought Clone Wars ended and Rebels took off where they left off?!
Nope, Clone Wars ended a few months before Revenge of the Sith while Rebels takes place in the few years before A New Hope. While there are characters from one that show up in the other (and I think it was a waste that they didn't have Rex and Asoka be part of the main cast) it's not a direct sequel.

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It did. It's a short-lived, 12 episode revival that finishes the intended plotlines from before Clones was cancelled.

Rebels does continue Clone Wars to an extent, but it's mostly its own thing.
Not quite, there where 60 episode scrips made for seasons 6, 7 and 8 (because LucasFilm was like that under Lucas, all 50 feature length episodes of Underworld had their scripts finished before they decided it was too expensive with the technology of the time to make, which makes me hope Disney makes them on Hulu because the technology is now there). Season 6 was the 13 episodes that where mostly done at the time of the buyout and it was simply deemed a better financial move to finish them with Netflix rather then have them go to waste. Which means that if the 12 new episodes are scripts from the original plans that would still leave 35 episodes as of yet unmade.

No, that's about right.
I'll admit it's speculation on my part (but before yesterday no one would have believed Disney would have done it), but given the show comes out in 15 months, even if it was only entering in pre-production now they would still be able to make it in time. While it could have been in the making for some time, it's just as possible that the decision to have the new season made was in direct response to Solo being a financial failure, and the trailer being the only thing that's actually been done (since they have time to go through the entire production process after all).

PsychedelicDiamond said:
I don't think fans of The Clone Wars are the core audience of Star Wars.

Still, it's a good show. Glad there's gonna be more of it.
I disagree, I've yet to meet any major Star Wars fans (of the "spends a shit ton of money on Star Wars stuff" type) who's in their 20s who isn't a major fan of the show. Then again it was airing for us in our youth, so that likely played a part in it.

bluegate said:
More Anakin? More Obi-wan? More Ahsoka? Count me in!

Still not interested in Episode 9 though.
Agreed

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bluegate said:
More Anakin? More Obi-wan? More Ahsoka? Count me in!

Still not interested in Episode 9 though.
I think Ahsoka is supposed to show up in the Siege of Mandalore arc but most of this is after her departure from the Jedi ranks due the Jedi Council being total dicks in regards to her being fitted up by Barriss Offee.

So not a recurring character but she should show up once.
The trailer is pretty much dedicated to showing that, whatever part they're adapting, she's involved, so I think it's safe to say she'll play a major role in the new season.
 

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Silentpony said:
Wait, I thought Clone Wars ended and Rebels took off where they left off?!
Kinda. I mean, Rebels does continue and call back to numerous elements of clone wars(some of the clone troopers including Captain Rex, the Mandalorian arc) but clone wars didn't really get a proper ending. Instead you got that arc about Yoda learning how to become a force ghost and the arc where one of the clone troopers learns about the control chip in their heads that tied in with Order 66. It sets up elements for later but doesn't really close the series out.

Especially since Ep III started with a massive battle underway over the Capital which would have been a proper finale for the series to surge into Ep III.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Funny people likes the Clone Wars cartoon even though its still heavily tied with the Prequel Movies?

The Anakin we see here is still the same "I don't like sand" Anakin from Attack of the Clones.
A couple things that helped clone wars were that it actually showed the clone wars which otherwise pretty much happen offscreen between the end of EP II and continue into EP III. Arguably an entire film should have taken place in them instead of Child Anakin being precocious in Phantom Menace(and something, something trade dispute something something pod race something something jar jar) but until clone wars there was just this big gap there.

The fact you got to see the slow transition between the Republic military and the imperial military, as well as Palpatine slowly consolidating his power was a massive plus and of course, giving Anakin enough character development over time to make his fall to the dark side plausible (Instead of him just being super entitled in EPIII and deciding to start murdering children because evil).
 

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Funny people likes the Clone Wars cartoon even though its still heavily tied with the Prequel Movies?

The Anakin we see here is still the same "I don't like sand" Anakin from Attack of the Clones.
One of the root causes of the PT's failure to captivate audiences, was that it introduced a large number of characters all at once, not all of whom having a real purpose in the story, and jumped from plot point to plot point without really giving breathing room for character development. Bad dialogue was just the tip of the iceberg; the OT had some pretty iffy dialogue but leaned heavily on storytelling through environment and character action, where the PT was reliant to a fault on exposition.

Compare Qui-Gon in TPM to Obi-Wan in ANH. Qui-Gon had more screen time and dialogue than Obi-Wan, but despite this really didn't have a character arc or real role. He was just there, said some stuff, and died to Maul. The film would have been literally no different if they wrote him out completely.

Without Obi-Wan, there is no ANH. Period.

Hell, compare Vader in ANH to Maul in TPM. The comparison is even more glaring. In ANH we see Vader the strategist, and Vader the statesman; he's a complete character with a definitive role in the film whose presence moves the plot productively forward. Maul's character is "Palpatine's dragon" and his only role in the film is to give us a couple cool lightsaber fights, and to kill the character so extraneous to the film's plot he could have been written out completely. And, like Qui-Gon, he could be written out completely at zero impact to the film whatsoever.

Allow me the indulgence of belaboring the point with an alternative scenario. Obi-Wan is a young, idealistic, but stubborn, Jedi Knight eager to prove himself capable of taking on an apprentice, on a mission to resolve a trade dispute on Naboo. He goes to the Trade Federation ship, and due to inexperience fails to spot an obvious trap; it's sprung, and he has to escape to Naboo by stowing away on a Trade Federation transport. Upon landing he meets Jar-Jar, takes an instant disliking to him, but since Obi-Wan is stranded on an unfamiliar world blockaded by a droid army needs Jar-Jar's dubious help.

Jar-Jar helps him get to Theed, and the two of them escape with Padme aboard her yacht. They're forced to land on Tatooine, and Obi-Wan has to rely on his wits and guile to get Padme's yacht repaired. In the course of this he meets a slave kid named Anakin who has a natural talent and renown for piloting, senses the kid's Force sensitive, and the will of the Force the two should meet. So, he liberates the kid and decides to take him to the Jedi temple on Coruscant. But, Watto suspects Obi-Wan swindled him (he did), and sends bounty hunters after him, giving us a second-act action sequence.

Obi-Wan takes Anakin to the Jedi temple and asks the Council for permission to take him on as Padawan. The Council refuses; Mace senses something dark about Anakin, and Yoda believes his former apprentice not yet mature enough. This pisses Obi-Wan off, because he's taken a liking to Anakin, and Obi-Wan believes himself capable of guiding Anakin. Meanwhile, Padme pleads her case before the Senate, and Palpatine manipulates his way into the Chancellory.

Obi-Wan, Jar-Jar, and Padme meet and decide "screw this, we're doing what's right", and Obi-Wan takes Anakin anyways because he wants to prove the Council wrong about them both. They return to Naboo, and rally its people to rise up together against the droid army. Obi-Wan fights alongside Padme and her royal guard, and together they win the day by capturing Nute Gunray; Anakin sneaks away and gets in a fighter, not on accident but because the Force guides him, and ends the "already won, but not yet over" battle by destroying the control ship.

Amidst the celebration, Obi-Wan and Anakin talk about the battle. Anakin understands he killed a capital ship full of living beings in a battle that really wasn't life-or-death, but he doesn't have a problem with it because they were "bad guys". Obi-Wan overlooks the troubling subtext of the conversation, but Palpatine who has been spying on them doesn't, and walks away having identified a potential apprentice under the dubious guidance of an inexperienced and headstrong Jedi. Yoda travels to Naboo, tells Obi-Wan the good he did helping unite the people of Naboo to overthrow the Trade Federation outweighs his violation of orders, and that standing up for what's right despite the potential cost to one's self is the highest ideal of the Jedi order. Therefore, the Council has reversed its decision to deny Obi-Wan the privilege of training Anakin, but they'll be watching as Obi-Wan still has much to prove.

No Qui-Gon, no Maul, but it's literally the same movie. In fact, by removing Qui-Gon and Maul, the film frees itself of a ton of exposition, character presence, and run time to emphasize the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and establish the character flaws in Obi-Wan which lead to his later denial of Anakin's growing darkness.

Where the CG series got it right, was it incorporated that storytelling through environment and action, and kept exposition to a minimum. It gave breathing room for characters to actually grow and evolve, and for audiences to absorb the content. We weren't just told that Ahsoka was growing up and becoming a Jedi beyond her years in strength, character, and wisdom beyond her years; we saw it happen.