Stories that "Dropped the ball".

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Some stories start out great, stay great and are still great by the end. Some, however, are not. Which stories (from any media) started out nice, but lost kind of became dumb, or uniteresting, or something else at some point.

For me it's currently ongoing anime called Gate
The premise is great: the gate opens in Tokyo, out of which different kind of fantasy creatures emmerge. They kill a few people, but are quickly destroyed, since they only had swords and bows. Japanese goverment decided to send its Defence Force to the otherside. And, concidering that it's basically a classical fantasy world mixed with Roman Empire (with coresponding level of technical advancement) and JSDF has firearms, tanks, helies, etc., it is all well and good for earthlings. It was fun to finally see "our guys" in a superior beings role.

However, as soon as story gets back to our world, it all comes down the drain. I'll forget the fact that over the whole story the main character feels like a Marty Sue (with him being lazy otaku, but due to luck and plot becoming a commander of a military unit, who also has the rank of ranger). I'll forget the fact that author shows Japanese parliament member as a complete idiot (I don't live in Japan, so I wouldn't know enough to judge them objectively). However, this story shows the three modern "enemies" of Japan (i.e. USA, China and Russia) as gun-hoe countries ran by morons.

I mean, USA, Russia and China want to lay their hands on untapped resources of this new world. People from other side of the gate finally come to our world. What do these 3 coutries do? They send special forces to capture them, all while USA president acts like a complete ass towards oh so glorious Japan Prime Minister. And when it all fails (due to one of the guests being a demigod) US presidents acts like a brat throwing a tantrum. ANd then they surrender, basically.

What the actual FUCK? Look, I don't have any particular love or hate towards US or China and I dislike Russian goverment, but even I have to agree that this portrail of superpowers is degrading. What would real governments do? Right of the bat, as soon as those people came out from the gate, they'd send their ambassadors with their best translators to ask these guests to visit THEIR countries and ask from representatives of Japan if they mind. And all this while cameras are pointed at them. Japan simply CANNOT say no. And when they are in the USA, Russia and/or China, politicians of these coutries would've started working on the guests to convince them that if one coutry has access to the gate it is unfair.

And that is what I thought of right after I watched episodes that took place in our world. Politicians would've thought of something even better. They may look and act dumb, but they are not dumb for real.

If you have a strong feeling of hate towards someone, at least put some damn effort in portraying them in a proper light at the very least because you must have at the very least SOME respect towards intelligence of your readers/viewers.


Anyway, what are your examples?
 

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For many, this was the case with Evangelion. Not that I would know, I stopped watching around episode 13 or so.
 

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The Sword of Truth books. Started off as very enjoyable, if a bit cookie-cutter, high fantasy series with an interesting plot, sympathetic characters, decent writing, and some really cool action scenes. But then good ol' Terry Goodkind decided that shoving Objectivist philosophy down his readers' throats was more important than telling a good story, and everything went to shit.
 

Casual Shinji

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Hancock

It could've been a fun superhero romp with a likeable bastard as the hero, but then they had to go and do... t-that.
 

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Legend of Korra is a perfect example of a series where the story drops the ball.

Season 1: Had a great villain but slow build up and an unnecessary love triangle (square?) story. Horrible rushed ending.
Season 2: Holy spectacle creep. Terrible villain. Korra is characterized terribly (she is essentially a whinier version of herself from season 1).
Season 3: Great villains. Best written Korra season in my opinion. Minor issues compared to other seasons.
Season 4: Too much build up for such a boring payoff. Terrible villain.
 

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Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

Don't know what the hell happened, but the last 3rd of the show is just absurd. And not in a good way. In a "head writer had a heart-attack and we let his ADHD ten year old son write the rest of the show" absurd.
 

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So many anime and manga stories have this happen to them. Two come to mind for me.

1) Negima. Anyone who read this series should understand. Yes, I know there were legal issues that kneecapped the series, but damn. When the final book came out, I actually put off reading it for weeks because the way the series ends is just so disappointing. Talk about a smack in the face for everyone who followed it for so long.

2) Naruto. Look, I know a lot of people don't like the series. Many people most likely say the series never "had the ball" to begin with. But I enjoyed it. I liked that it generally expanded the universe and I liked the characters. Too much focus on Naruto a lot of the time, but okay.
And then the war came, and I was so excited at first. Finally, he had a chance to show what other characters could do. We were finally going to get to see the rest of the cast step up while Naruto was sidelined. And while the anime took that idea and ran with it, not so for the manga. Sure enough, Naruto comes in and starts saving everyone. Dropped ball number one.

But the big dropped ball was when Madara decided to start breaking all the rules of the universe, of a good villain, and of general storytelling. I'm sure other fans know what I mean. There was just no beating that guy, and it was crap. Dropped ball number two, and at the point where I stopped caring. Decided to finish it just because I'd been with it that long.

But the final ball drop, the one that dropped the ball so hard that it sunk into the Earth's core, was the introduction of a brand new villain that was even more stupidly powerful than Madara. A villain that had never been mentioned before a few chapters ago, had no real backstory beyond stupid "This is why I do this", and absolutely no clues or buildup. It was like the author realized he had made Madara so poorly, so powerful, that the only way to get rid of him was to bring in someone else.
That...that was worthy of a face palm so hard that you black out.
 

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The Wheel of Time books. Started out with a nicely-realized world, good characters, a tight-knit plot... and then we started seeing entire books seemingly dedicated to nothing but introducing new characters whose sole purpose was to die in order to fuel Rand's angst-o-meter.

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The second and third Matrix films. While there's the "they're in a second Matrix" fan theory that was a reasonable conclusion, even that aside, its still was underwhelming.
There's times where the allegation that the Wachowskis plagarized the script for the first Matrix film seems believable, honestly. The sequels just drowned in their own faux-losophy.
 

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Silentpony said:
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

Don't know what the hell happened, but the last 3rd of the show is just absurd. And not in a good way. In a "head writer had a heart-attack and we let his ADHD ten year old son write the rest of the show" absurd.
Well, an underlying theme was evolution and growth, just with the pacing cranked up to eleven; everything was bigger than the last. So starting the series with the main character inching along like an earthworm, it was somehow inevitable that the ending would have mecha throwing galaxies like they were shurkien. Personally, my reason checked out when they punched a hole in space-time. That or that's when the weed kicked in. Either way, everything after that I simply shrugged and said "Sure! Why the fuck not?!" and just rolled with it.

Kind of reminded me of how Kill La Kill mocked Magical Girl series, Gurren Lagan mocked Giant Mecha series.
 

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Hunger Games. Mockingjay was so awful. I know that the situation is bad and it would be enough to send mos people over the edge, but I did just want to give Katniss a good slap throughout most of it.
 

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TakerFoxx said:
The Sword of Truth books. Started off as very enjoyable, if a bit cookie-cutter, high fantasy series with an interesting plot, sympathetic characters, decent writing, and some really cool action scenes. But then good ol' Terry Goodkind decided that shoving Objectivist philosophy down his readers' throats was more important than telling a good story, and everything went to shit.
^Very much this, I'll usually continue a series if it manages to grab my attention and Sword of Truth was one of the few cases where I've had a choice of either letting go or facepalming so hard my kids would be born with hand prints on their faces. Not sure if it was the case of forcing a specific philosophy on the reader either, or just that if your first book in the series is a solid 7 out of 10 (on my Personal Rating Scale) and your writing skills end up deteriorating, for some reason, so badly that every next entry is at least one point lower on the PRS, there are only so many entries you can publish before your scores get negative.

Aside from the massive rant on the Sword of Truth, I'd say System Shock 2 was an amazing game and I would have considered the lack of an official followup one of the humanity's greatest losses... if not for the fact the whole thing started rapidly heading downhill after you
leave Rickenbacker. First, the whole thing with The Many somehow creating a lot of biomass out of nowhere and using it to envelop both ships rather than, dunno, do something useful with it, makes absolutely no sense and the level design is pretty damn atrocious. And then Shodan basically announces that FTL drives are magic (which is obviously ridiculous, because, as everyone knows, friendship is magic, and friendship does not have the ability to propel mass at hyperlight speeds.)
Soo... Maybe it was for the best they didn't continue that storyline...?
 

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Attack on Titan: I went into that anime wanting an 'Us vs Them' kind of story, and then they just had to throw that random curve ball, and have people be Titans. I haven't been following the manga or anything, but I hear that all Titans are actually humans, and I just find that to be typical anime bullshit.

Sword Art Online: Why name a show after the first arc of a story, if you are only going to visit that setting in one of 4 current arcs? The SAO arc was actually really good, and it had a great concept, spoiled by terrible pacing, and shonky character development. If they had continued with the first arc of the story, instead of sticking by the mistakes of the author, and rushing off into a second setting and story arc before barely fleshing out those in the first, I am pretty sure that they could have salvaged a pretty decent show out of it.

Death Note: The death of L really shook things up, and it was unexpected, exciting, and entertaining, but don't kill off your main villain if the one you have lined up to replace him is nowhere near on the same level.

Far Cry 3: Read above. Same issue. Why kill of Vaas, a charming villain who really made the game as cool as it was, if you are going to replace him with someone nowhere near as interesting or memorable.
 

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kris40k said:
Silentpony said:
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

Don't know what the hell happened, but the last 3rd of the show is just absurd. And not in a good way. In a "head writer had a heart-attack and we let his ADHD ten year old son write the rest of the show" absurd.
Well, an underlying theme was evolution and growth, just with the pacing cranked up to eleven; everything was bigger than the last. So starting the series with the main character inching along like an earthworm, it was somehow inevitable that the ending would have mecha throwing galaxies like they were shurkien. Personally, my reason checked out when they punched a hole in space-time. That or that's when the weed kicked it. Either way, everything after that I simply shrugged and said "Sure! Why the fuck not?!" and just rolled with it.

Kind of reminded me of how Kill La Kill mocked Magical Girl series, Gurren Lagan mocked Giant Mecha series.
I guess we have a different understanding of what constitutes an inevitable growth, especially in the confines of a single tv show.
It just didn't feel like a satisfying ending, or even an ending at all. Throwing galaxies like ninjastars is literally what I drew on my math notebook when I was 10. After the halfway mark it seemed like every episode the writers' age dropped by 5 until they were at the mental equivalent of a 4th grader.
 

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Laggyteabag said:
Sword Art Online: Why name a show after the first arc of a story, if you are only going to visit that setting in one of 4 current arcs?
Even though I actually really like SAO I have to kinda agree here. Although I have to also correct you slightly: the first arc is called "Aincrad".

This isn't a case of "oh the second arc was rubbish so it should have been replaced with more of the first arc" either, because I'm one of the apparently few people who have a soft spot for Fairy Dance (despite what it did to the best character in the series, Asuna). But I really wanted more Aincrad arc with those super-high stakes and an actual conclusion to it, beating floor 100 and a climactic battle and all that. Cutting off like that was just ugh. -_-
 

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Dragon Age: Inquisition
They had Corypheus, a villain with such a badass lines as "Beg that I succeed, for I have seen the throne of the gods...and it was empty" and in the end they did absolutely nothing with him. A true change to bite into the gods of Thedas and its religion... but nothing.
 

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TravelerSF said:
Dragon Age: Inquisition
They had Corypheus, a villain with such a badass lines as "Beg that I succeed, for I have seen the throne of the gods...and it was empty" and in the end they did absolutely nothing with him. A true change to bite into the gods of Thedas and its religion... but nothing.
Oh, the game is biting into the Thedas' beliefs all right. Problem is, it's not Corypheus who is doing it. It's all happening in the background and the little hints that seem to just be random dialogue. The stuff that this game has suggested turns everything on its head it seems.
But I totally agree with you. Corypheus, even back in Legacy in II, was great. He should have served as a bridge for the story, a way of introducing new story lore and answering a lot of questions. This is a guy that is living proof from Thedas' biggest recorded historical event, and at first, that has a huge impact on everyone in the game.
But then, by the end of it, he really feels like an afterthought. Like the writers suddenly remembered he still existed and they had to deal with him quick. Truly a waste.
 

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Naruto dropped the ball somewhere during the exams near the begining in the series. Imo it turned too child friendly.
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
So many anime and manga stories have this happen to them. Two come to mind for me.

1) Negima. Anyone who read this series should understand. Yes, I know there were legal issues that kneecapped the series, but damn. When the final book came out, I actually put off reading it for weeks because the way the series ends is just so disappointing. Talk about a smack in the face for everyone who followed it for so long.

2) Naruto. Look, I know a lot of people don't like the series. Many people most likely say the series never "had the ball" to begin with. But I enjoyed it. I liked that it generally expanded the universe and I liked the characters. Too much focus on Naruto a lot of the time, but okay.
And then the war came, and I was so excited at first. Finally, he had a chance to show what other characters could do. We were finally going to get to see the rest of the cast step up while Naruto was sidelined. And while the anime took that idea and ran with it, not so for the manga. Sure enough, Naruto comes in and starts saving everyone. Dropped ball number one.

But the big dropped ball was when Madara decided to start breaking all the rules of the universe, of a good villain, and of general storytelling. I'm sure other fans know what I mean. There was just no beating that guy, and it was crap. Dropped ball number two, and at the point where I stopped caring. Decided to finish it just because I'd been with it that long.

But the final ball drop, the one that dropped the ball so hard that it sunk into the Earth's core, was the introduction of a brand new villain that was even more stupidly powerful than Madara. A villain that had never been mentioned before a few chapters ago, had no real backstory beyond stupid "This is why I do this", and absolutely no clues or buildup. It was like the author realized he had made Madara so poorly, so powerful, that the only way to get rid of him was to bring in someone else.
That...that was worthy of a face palm so hard that you black out.
Naruto dropped the ball just by starting the war-arc, the story had already gotten weaker and we had stupid plotlist and yes we're basically watching shipuuden now but it made no sense anymore and the entire vibe from the original series was gone.


One has to realise that the war arc in Naruto was what over a 100 chapters long? that's more than 2 years.

Bleach has a similar problem but is simply saved somewhat by the creator being a sick fuck and actually creating quite original powers/backstories for his vilains (although the mainstory is beyond repair now and has been for years).



But the thing is Naruto and Bleach... that was a long time coming, the series that absolutely dissapointed me was Katekyo Hitman Reborn, it was a brilliant manga although it got a little weaker towards the end and then suddenly it ended abruptly pretty much without warning or foreshadowing, 99% of the plot left open it just ended suddenly.