Stuff You Find Over-rated

[CrazyGirl17]

So here's something I want to get off my chest: *ahem*

I, CrazyGirl17, think that the classic Hanna-Barbera and Ruby-Spears cartoons are over-rated.

Now don't get me wrong, I understand that these are milestones in cartoon history... I just think that while they are important... they're still kinda flawed.

But lemme explain why. Gather 'round kiddies, it's story time!

Back in the olden days, we didn't have 500+ channels, the best most people got was about 70 or so. When I was a sprat (good lord I feel old just saying that!) our TV got at least 60 channels. That included Nickelodeon and Disney, but *not* Cartoon Network. But my grandparents, who lived just down the road, got that channel. So whenever we went down to visit them (which was often), I'd spend a lot of time catching up on the shows I missed.

In those days, they would rerun classics like Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, and Scooby-Doo, plus the old toons like Yogi Bear, Top Cat and more. Problem was... since I didn't get that channel at home for a while, I spent a lot of time watching those cartoons I probably missed out on the Disney Afternoon and Nicktoons.

(Especially galling since these days all these channels care about is showing sub-par cartoons and tween-pandering crap.)

And it wasn't until years later that I realized that back in the old days, Hanna-Barbera and Ruby-Spears, were, let's face it, a bunch of unoriginal hacks. As in they made the same damn show over and over and over again until they had over-saturated the channel with derivatives. We had shows about groups of small woodland creatures, shows about funny talking animals, and a seemingly endless number of shows about teens solving mysteries. Seriously, cliched shows about mystery solvers had become over-done long before I was even born!

That's probably why shows like Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law and The Venture Brothers resonate with me in how they make fun of the cliches.

And for the record, I'm more of a believer in "Quality over Quantity" and most of the old-time stuff just doesn't cut it for me anymore.

But enough of my old-timer complaining, what do you fine folks consider "over-rated"?

 

[Kenbo Slice]

In b4 Samtemdo8 says Batman.

The only thing that comes to mind is New Girl but that's probably because I don't like Zooey Deschanel.

 

[Parasondox]

Star Wars. It's all YouTube commentators talk about and compare things too.

Overrated does not mean it's bad.

 

[Hawki]

Let's see...and for clarification, I'm going by "overrated," not "popular things I don't like" (e.g. I don't like 2001: A Space Odyssey, but I can't call it overrated per se)

-Adventure Time (only seen the first season, but it's so obnoxious, I don't care that it "gets better later." But somehow this is meant to be the defining cartoon of the current generation)

-Diablo II (I'll say that it's a good game, and maybe I "just don't get it," but I quite enjoy D1 and D3, but this? This is just a slog. Yet apparently it's the best ARPG ever made, the best in its series, and the BEST GAME EVA! And, fine, people will like what they want, but I just don't find playing D2 enjoyable).

-Doom 2016 (talked ad nauseum about this - net positive, I had some fun, but I hold D1 and D3 above it)

-Firefly (I quite like Firefly. It takes the #5 spot in my top ten sci-fi shows. Still, I don't love it as much as a lot of fans do. Certainly good, but not the best of all time)

-Half-Life 2 (yes, I know, groundbreaking, engrossing, yadda yadda yadda...half of the time that's true for me, the other half is just tedium)

-The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (I can understand why this was such a big deal when it came out, and it is a net positive for me, but best LoZ ever? Yeah...no. Even in the 2D games I've played, I prefer Minish Cap)

-The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (some might call this underrated, but while I like MM, it does take the #4 spot for a reason. If anything, I feel that Ocarina of Time has become underrated because everyone seems intent on propping up Majora's Mask)

-Path of Exile (just a slog to get through, and I gave up. Similar to D2, maybe this type of game isn't meant for me, but I've enjoyed other examples in the genre, so maybe it's not just me, but PoE. But, apparently this is the "true D3," so what do I know?)

-Regular Show (apparently this is the best thing since sliced bread, but...I just can't get into it)

-Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (yes, I grew up with this show like everyone my age, and I get the nostalgia, but come on guys, there's far better seasons out there. MMPR survives on nostalgia, pure and simple - enjoyable nostalgia, but nostalgia nonetheless)

-Resident Evil 2 (I like RE2 - it takes the #4 Resident Evil spot for me, but I've never held it in as high regard as others. I especially feel that RE3 gets unfairly overshadowed by it, but, well, whatever. Good game, one I hold in high regard, but I think others in the series surpass it)

-Star Trek (as a whole...I can enjoy Star Trek, but I feel there's far better sci-fi series out there)

-Stargate: Atlantis (yeah, it's fine, it's okay, but it's basically SG-1 in a new skin. Flawed as it is, I hold Universe above Atlantis)

-Tron (a cult classic that I find...okay. Granted, I find Tron: Legacy to be "okay" as well, but I feel that Legacy is the superior film at the end of the day)

-Deltora Quest (I mean, yeah, I enjoyed these books as a kid, but I always felt that Rowan of Rin was the better series, even if Deltora Quest was by far the more popular one)

-The MCU (...do I even need to explain this?)

-The Incredibles (fun film, but never held it as one of Pixar's strongest)

-Toy Story 2 (ditto...always found it to be the weak link in the trilogy)

 

[Queen Michael]

Pride and Prejudice. It's a good book, but it's got so many fans who seem to think that it's a work of great literature just because they want to get in bed with Mr. Darcy.
Seriously, people. Like the book all you want. Just don't insist that hot characters equal literary greatness.
(I've got no beef with people who love it for other reasons, mind you.)

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

In b4 Samtemdo8 says Batman.

The only thing that comes to mind is New Girl but that's probably because I don't like Zooey Deschanel.

I was gonna say that, but at least Batman had to work hard to get to where he is now.

Its things like My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic and Overwatch that I find overrated as of late.

 

[Wrex Brogan]

Game of Thrones - it's just... christ, it's like a cliched fantasy series decided it needed to be as edgy as possible so it busted it's ass down to Hot Topic and started calling itself 'Darkness Dementia'. Sure, the show's not that bad (saved by solid acting and production), but fuck me does it not deserve SO MUCH HYPE over every little thing that happens, with podcasts, talkshows, tvspots, youtube streams, etc. all shoving each other out of the way to gush over the latest episode. Just... god damn.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Game of Thrones - it's just... christ, it's like a cliched fantasy series decided it needed to be as edgy as possible so it busted it's ass down to Hot Topic and started calling itself 'Darkness Dementia'. Sure, the show's not that bad (saved by solid acting and production), but fuck me does it not deserve SO MUCH HYPE over every little thing that happens, with podcasts, talkshows, tvspots, youtube streams, etc. all shoving each other out of the way to gush over the latest episode. Just... god damn.

It only shows how utterly shiity TV has become.

And its supposedly a more realistic portrayal of medieval fantasy becase our Medieval Period was a brutal time.

Its not a happy go lucky disney like fairy tale.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

70 channels? 70?? Damn, I remember as a kid when our 4 main channels increased to 5. Oh dear, can't tell if that's age or poor living. Maybe both.

Anyway, Dr who. Can't seem to get into the flippant form of sci-fi. I prefer it deeply philosophical, mind-bending and sometimes even horrific. But not wise-cracking, hot-lady-sidekicking daytime TV for the kiddos/teens/hardcore fans sci-fi that makes me facepalm every few seconds.

Bond films. Only made slightly bearable with Daniel Craig, but I get people like routine in their entertainment, it's just not for me.

Friday 13th movies. I guess similar to bond films, people like their routines and hate lustful teens or something? They're not horror, just boring murder porn. Nightmare on elm Street afforded some semblance of creativity at least in its' idea.

Straw Wars. It was meant to say Star Wars, but auto-correct insisted on Straw Wars. Who am I to defy such wise benevolence?

Comic super heroes. Especially superman, he is like a personified American flag. Although Alan Moore seems ok.

Anime

Religion

Patriotism

Homeopathy

Sobriety

Happiness

Your kids. Yes, yours. Not mine, they don't exist but if they do I'll probably change my mind.

Warm weather

Unregulated free market

Games journalism

Lots of undecided cans of worms, bad worms, get back in these bigger cans, nasty worms. Ho boy.

Youtube personalities.

Sweets, Candy, chocolate, all that jazz.

Overly long internet posts to avoid doing something productive that may have far outstayed its' welcome and is demoralising with an ever-growing self doubt that slowly crushes the soul as the finish line moves farther away like some horrendous stretching nightmare corridor.

All of these may change by next week though, I can never tell. All in moderation, none to put too much stock upon.

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

-Diablo II (I'll say that it's a good game, and maybe I "just don't get it," but I quite enjoy D1 and D3, but this? This is just a slog. Yet apparently it's the best ARPG ever made, the best in its series, and the BEST GAME EVA! And, fine, people will like what they want, but I just don't find playing D2 enjoyable).

-Path of Exile (just a slog to get through, and I gave up. Similar to D2, maybe this type of game isn't meant for me, but I've enjoyed other examples in the genre, so maybe it's not just me, but PoE. But, apparently this is the "true D3," so what do I know?)

Can't speak for anyone else (obviously), but for me it's about building a character. Diablo II and Path of Exile are a slog to play through, if you're there for the world/characters/story. The one place where D2 and PoE really shine is character building and consequences. In Path of Exile, I probably spend as much time planning my character as I actually spend playing it. Always looking for that perfect build with the most efficient usage of skill points, the right combination of skills, and a touch of gimmick from unique gear that makes my character absurdly powerful.

Does it always work? Nah. I've shelved characters that didn't meet expectations. But that's the fun of it to me. Planning something and watching it grow to fruition, for good or bad, is the draw for me. So I guess to some degree you have to like 'Spreadsheet Simulators' to "get" the love for D2/PoE.

Games like Diablo III just don't have that for me. Beyond choosing your starting class, there are no consequences to any decisions. There's no incentive to planning in advance, because you can be whatever you want, whenever you want (once everything unlocks). The end result is that there's very little actual variety in what's viable - especially once you factor in the obscene bonuses you get from armor sets to specific abilities, meaning you go cookie-cutter like everyone else of your class or handicap what your character is capable of. THAT, to me, is a slog. Especially when the game's world/characters/story really aren't that much more engaging (D3 is all style, zero substance on those fronts, from my perspective - though to its credit, at least it has style).

ANYWAY...

Gonna agree with those saying STAR WARS. I really, really don't understand the obsession with this franchise. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate it... I just don't get why people go batshit crazy over it every time there's a new one. Looking at the movies there are more 'meh' to 'bad' ones than there are 'good' ones at this point, and with Disney at the helm churning out sequel and spin-off one after another I have a feeling that ratio is going to get even more skewed. It may have been an amazing franchise back in the 70's/80's... but these days, it's been dragged through the mud so many times now... taken as a whole, it doesn't seem that great.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

All superheroes. Superman in particular is ridiculous. I just watched the 1978 movie properly. It's absurd. I was kind of entertained, but where are the stakes if he can do so much, including rewind time so nonsensically? Luther finds Superman's weakness for no explainable reason and has the dumbest evil plan ever. Why does Lois Lane not recognize Superman through his glasses? It's a pretty silly cartoon. I've not seen them, but I have no idea how people can take the new films that try to be all gritty seriously. It's a cartoony human from another galaxy.

I perticularly dislike the second half of the movie, the first half was just magical.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Television. Almost all television shows feel like a huge waste of time compared to movies.

It may have been an amazing franchise back in the 70's/80's...

Then it will never stop being remarkable. The later movies can't take away what the original trilogy did. They're great escapist fun with relatable themes, ahead of their time.

You criticized an industry that has been tried and true for story telling?

 

[Scarim Coral]

Well I finally wated Frozen last Christmas and yeah I found it overrated.

Granted this is coming from a guy who watched Monona and Zootopia first so I found those two far more compelling than Frozen.

The story was meh (bad parenting) and I saw the twist with the Prince a while away since when Disney done a reverse harem when that ice cube guy was introduce? Lastly the songs were meh too since I found Moana to be more rememberable (We find the way, How Far I go, Shiny and You're Welcome) than Let it go .

Also there're Bacon, beans and fish and chip. I can still eat those but they are not high on my list on desirable food to eat on the day.

 

[Worgen]

Toy Story 3. Its just so... meh. It doesn't do anything new, it pretty much copies most of the story beats from the first toy story. I suppose it wasn't bad... I guess. Just solidly meh.

Star Wars episode 3. For some reason out of all the prequels people seem to like this one. But its horrible, its the worst, it makes the first 2 look good. The editing was cut by someone who had a red bull drip. Seriously, it was all over the place, it made the whole galatic war look like it took place over the course of a week at most. It also made space travel look like it was faster than driving to the corner store. In the middle of the obiwan and anakin fight we cut to the emperor saying he felt something off and getting onto a ship to fly to the lava planet. THen we cut back to the fight and obiwan beats anikin. Somehow the emp gets there in enough time to save him from being bbq. But the worst, the absolute worst was at the end, when it tied it back to the style of the old movies, we see the old panels, we see the star destroyers we know. It made the original movies worse. Because you couldn't just view the prequels as some kinda weird side project, they took place in the same universe. Garbage movie. The only good part was that lizard bird obiwan was riding, that thing looked cool.

 

[Xprimentyl]

Star Wars. It's all YouTube commentators talk about and compare things too.

Overrated does not mean it's bad.

Yup, this. I have tons of friends who think Star Wars is the greatest thing since sliced bread served on a cutting board made from wood from the True Cross, but I watch it and see space ships, muppets, lasers and glorified telekinesis. If it makes you happy, I'm happy for you, but I don't get it.

 

[McMarbles]

The Walking Dead. Watched a season and a half of that shit and I want all that time back.

 

[Sonmi]

Bacon
Superhero movies
Pumpkin lattes
Tomatoes in general
The Uncharted Series
Pretty much all Young Adult fiction
Game of Thrones (the TV show)
The Walking Dead
Family Guy
Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Return of the Jedi

...You mean the Empire Strikes Back?