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Before we talk about anything, I beg of you, if you are going to have a plot issue that you don't understand that would ruin a movie/book/video game/erotic novel, please use the spoiler tags.
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With that out of the way, I was just watching "Django Unchained". Now I did greatly enjoy the movie but toward the middle, some actions didn't make a freaking lick of sense to me...

Alright, I get why they went with the ruse. Candy wouldn't have seen them if they didn't offer big money but why in the hell did Dr. Schultz shoot him at the end? I get that he's sore about the way he was treated and "losing" but they got exactly what they wanted. It would have been very easy for them to just walk away and Django is damn lucky they didn't just shoot his ass.

So what forms of entertainment have plot elements that just made you scratch your head? These can be plot holes, character actions, or whatever else made you question what the hell the media makers were thinking. Hopefully, you'll either

A. Get a chuckle out of reading plot issues
or
B. Someone might actually know why the plot was the way it was
 

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tippy2k2 said:
Before we talk about anything, I beg of you, if you are going to have a plot issue that you don't understand that would ruin a movie/book/video game/erotic novel, please use the spoiler tags.
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To use them, have [-spoiler] at the beginning of your sentence and [-/spoiler] at the end without the - sign. To put a title in your spoiler (like the movie you are about to spoil, type [-spoiler=Media Title]

Thank you for your cooperation.

With that out of the way, I was just watching "Django Unchained". Now I did greatly enjoy the movie but toward the middle, some actions didn't make a freaking lick of sense to me...

Alright, I get why they went with the ruse. Candy wouldn't have seen them if they didn't offer big money but why in the hell did Dr. Schultz shoot him at the end? I get that he's sore about the way he was treated and "losing" but they got exactly what they wanted. It would have been very easy for them to just walk away and Django is damn lucky they didn't just shoot his ass.

So what forms of entertainment have plot elements that just made you scratch your head? Hopefully, you'll either

A. Get a chuckle out of reading plot issues
or
B. Someone might actually know why the plot was the way it was
That was no plothole.

Schultz was a really good man and seeing the way Candy treated his slaves was already too much for him (You can see him sort of break character and try to free one of Candy's slaves earlier in the movie and his look of disgust as Candy has him executed). Schultz seemed to really hate Candy and since the whole facade had been uncovered, he didn't have to act like he enjoyed his company anymore. So, as Schultz was (very) ready to leave, Candy was forcing Schultz to shake his hand or die, which just set Schultz over the edge. He "couldn't resist" anymore and assassinated him. He knew what he had done and he knew that he most likely would have left the place with his life if he'd just shaken his hand, hence his apology. "Losing" may or may not have been a part of why he'd become so annoyed, but he definitely had a lot of other motives and understandable anger towards him.

What I didn't understand about this scene was why he didn't turn around and hit the guy who was aiming a shotgun straight for him. Even if he had a 2-shot revolver made only for assassinations, he could have at least tried to make it out. He had time to turn all the way around, face the rest of the room and say "Sorry, I couldn't resist.", so he should have shot instead.
 

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Shia-Neko-Chan said:
I removed it from the title but I didn't mean to call these plot holes, just head-scratchers where what the character did made no sense. His actions made sense in terms of plot but didn't make much sense to me in terms of "smart".

I suppose I can buy that and flashes of it are shown during the conversation. I guess my main thing is that Dr. Schultz basically sentenced himself and Django to death with that action and for what? To kill one slave owner? I understand the emotions he was going through seeing such an injustice but you've gotta pick you battles doc!
 

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I still get severely confused when watching Knocked Up as to why Seth Rogen and Kathrine Heigl start a romantic relationship just because he got her pregnant. Eventhough they clearly hate eachother, with the onscreen animosity being palpable as fuck.

It's not even questioned, just "there's a baby; we must hook up". It makes the rest of the movie fucking insufferable.
 

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Every 5 minutes of skyfall something new happens that makes no sense.

One example out of 25;

Bond gets shot in turkey by a bad guy and then disappears. He comes back and then decides MI6 needs some new leads. So he pulls out some bullet shrapnel that has been in his chest/shoulder to get analysed. They find out who uses this bullet and track him down.

Now - first of all the guy shot about 100 bullets in turkey. They couldn't retrieve one?
Bond left a led bullet in his body??! That's insane...and poisonous!
Only 3 people on the planet use this bullet?!? His a ghost?! Well then why is he using a bullet no1 else uses? and if his a ghost why do we know his flight manifesto?
 

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I tend to naturally overlook absolutely every nonsensical thing in anything I enjoy watching, unless it starts taking the piss. Like people say Code Geass goes absolutely batshit bonkers towards the end of R2 but I still find nothing wrong with it. It's cool as hell.

Then there's the end of the Aizen arc in Bleach which just turned me off from the manga entirely. Unbeatable main villain who singlehandedly owned the entire good side of the cast no problem and let himself get betrayed and stabbed through the heart by his second in command (he lived and defeated him in less than an issue.)

Shit... How do I write myself out of this mess when Ichigo is clearly going to get instagibbed when going in for the final showdown? Ehmmm, uhhhh... INFINITE TRAINING TIME! YES! I LOVE YOU BATTLE MANGA CLICHES!

Oh and every other word in every plot heavy section in BlazBlue. I get what all the words and names mean when on their own but you start slamming 50 plot words together in one scene and I get so confused...

What IS Amaterasu anyway?! Is it supposed to be a specific person or thing or just the general idea of a God Hamaza wants dead so badly? Why did you have to make Mu-12 to kill it? What's the difference between Mu-12 and her Kusanagi? Are they practically one and the same since they were both (presumably) born together? Nobody slipped Mu a sneaky Sword of the Godslayer while we weren't looking after all. I main Mu so I'd like to bloody know about my character dammit!

Sorry, let me just slam my head off a wall for a while.
 

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The only part of Puella Magi Madoka Magica I did not like:

So fairly early on in the series Madoka is speaking to her mother. Her mother says how trustworthy, honest and reliable she is.

Cut forward to near the end, where the powerful witch that cannot be defeated alone arrives. The witch appears to be a hurricane to non-magical people, and so all of the civilians, including Madoka are in a shelter. Madoka decides to leave the shelter to try and help Homura. When leaving she is caught by her mother.

She persuades her mother to let her leave by reminding her of the conversation she had before.

I seriously cannot see any parent accepting that as a good enough reason to let their child go out into what they see as a dangerous storm. It would have worked a lot better if Madoka had just snuck off without being caught.
 

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Wohohooo boy, does this thread have good timing. I just compiled a massive list of issues like these from Neon Genesis Evangelion, and I think I could have come up with double the amount if I wanted to. I'm pretty sure this is going to piss a lot of Eva fans off.

- In the first episode, Shinji has apparently just arrived in Tokyo-3 when it's under alert. Why has he come just at the time when the angel has attacked? More precisely, why didn't Gendo invite him just a little bit earlier if he knew when the angels were going to come back?

- And if the place is under alert, how did Shinji miss the alarms? Ok, so maybe the people had already evacuated when he arrived, but that means there was still public transportation coming into the city. You'd think that such things would shut down in case of, you know, MONSTERS BRINGING THE APOCALYPSE. And even then you'd think he'd be a bit confused to arrive into a giant city and see absolutely nobody anywhere.

- Misato drives like a maniac to pick Shinji up and get him to the Geofront in time, which implies they're in a bit of a hurry. But she doesn't seem to be the least bit upset when they get on the fairly slow-looking train thing or when they get lost in the Geofront, losing precious time all the while. Why is this?

- Why would anyone build a city with millions of people in it on top of the trigger to the apocalypse, which gets continuously attacked by monsters the size of skyscrapers, bombarded and destroyed? Especially if you knew the angels would attack there, and there alone. There doesn't seem to be a single good reason to want to live in Tokyo-3.

- If the angels were attacking only the Geofront, what was all that talk about other nations possessing evas, and there being restrictions on how many a country could have? What other uses did they have for the only thing that supposedly could stop the angels? Why not just give them all to Japan, unless they were warring amongst themselves with giant robots?

- In episode 6 NERV directs all of Japan's electricity into a single rifle in a matter of hours. Okay, so they can do that. But when the angel who splits into two attacks, they can't speed up the repairs of the evas just enough to get them into action before the monster awakens? While it just, you know, STANDS IDLY BY DOING NOHING!

- From the very same episode: a monster which brings about the end of the world if it gets close enough has split itself in two and lies in a dormant state for 5 days. First off, how do they know it will be in that state for that exact amount of time? Second, the monster lies dormant, doing nothing. Why does their only plan include having two teenagers who hate each other playing freaking twister to learn some ridiculous coreography that will apparently go exactly according to the monster's movements, despite them HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW IT IS GOING TO ACT????????

- We never see how the various halls and hangars in the Geofront are located in relation to one another, nor do we have any idea how large a construct it is.

- Since the angels are all attacking from ground level, why wouldn't they just store the evas there, instead of what seems like several miles underground?

- If the goal of the angels was to get to Lilith at Terminal Dogma, what was up with the amphibious angel in episode 8? How was it going to get several miles underground? Or for that matter, how was it going to move on dry land at all? Was it going to eat its way down?

- They say many times that the evas are the only thing that can defeat the angels. But in episode 11 they kill the angel by merely shooting at it with a gigantic rifle. Did the fact that it was the eva operating the rifle instead of, say, a turret, make the difference? Do the evas have some magical touch that turns normal projectiles into magical bullets? Or if the AT field needed to be negated, why didn't they fight every angel with the same strategy: an eva gets close to the angel to nullify the AT field and then the military blasts it to smithereens. Seems pretty functional to me.
 

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Wohohooo boy, does this thread have good timing. I just compiled a massive list of issues like these from Neon Genesis Evangelion, and I think I could have come up with double the amount if I wanted to. I'm pretty sure this is going to piss a lot of Eva fans off.

- In the first episode, Shinji has apparently just arrived in Tokyo-3 when it's under alert. Why has he come just at the time when the angel has attacked? More precisely, why didn't Gendo invite him just a little bit earlier if he knew when the angels were going to come back?

- And if the place is under alert, how did Shinji miss the alarms? Ok, so maybe the people had already evacuated when he arrived, but that means there was still public transportation coming into the city. You'd think that such things would shut down in case of, you know, MONSTERS BRINGING THE APOCALYPSE. And even then you'd think he'd be a bit confused to arrive into a giant city and see absolutely nobody anywhere.

- Misato drives like a maniac to pick Shinji up and get him to the Geofront in time, which implies they're in a bit of a hurry. But she doesn't seem to be the least bit upset when they get on the fairly slow-looking train thing or when they get lost in the Geofront, losing precious time all the while. Why is this?

- Why would anyone build a city with millions of people in it on top of the trigger to the apocalypse, which gets continuously attacked by monsters the size of skyscrapers, bombarded and destroyed? Especially if you knew the angels would attack there, and there alone. There doesn't seem to be a single good reason to want to live in Tokyo-3.

- If the angels were attacking only the Geofront, what was all that talk about other nations possessing evas, and there being restrictions on how many a country could have? What other uses did they have for the only thing that supposedly could stop the angels? Why not just give them all to Japan, unless they were warring amongst themselves with giant robots?

- In episode 6 NERV directs all of Japan's electricity into a single rifle in a matter of hours. Okay, so they can do that. But when the angel who splits into two attacks, they can't speed up the repairs of the evas just enough to get them into action before the monster awakens? While it just, you know, STANDS IDLY BY DOING NOHING!

- From the very same episode: a monster which brings about the end of the world if it gets close enough has split itself in two and lies in a dormant state for 5 days. First off, how do they know it will be in that state for that exact amount of time? Second, the monster lies dormant, doing nothing. Why does their only plan include having two teenagers who hate each other playing freaking tetris to learn some ridiculous coreography that will apparently go exactly according to the monster's movements, despite them HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW IT IS GOING TO ACT????????

- We never see how the various halls and hangars in the Geofront are located in relation to one another, nor do we have any idea how large a construct it is.

- Since the angels are all attacking from ground level, why wouldn't they just store the evas there, instead of what seems like several miles underground?

- If the goal of the angels was to get to Lilith at Terminal Dogma, what was up with the amphibious angel in episode 8? How was it going to get several miles underground? Or for that matter, how was it going to move on dry land at all? Was it going to eat its way down?

- They say many times that the evas are the only thing that can defeat the angels. But in episode 11 they kill the angel by merely shooting at it with a gigantic rifle. Did the fact that it was the eva operating the rifle instead of, say, a turret, make the difference? Do the evas have some magical touch that turns normal projectiles into magical bullets? Or if the AT field needed to be negated, why didn't they fight every angel with the same strategy: an eva gets close to the angel to nullify the AT field and then the military blasts it to smithereens. Seems pretty functional to me.
Your answers lie here [http://forum.evageeks.org/forum/discussion/] if you can be bothered to find them. I mean, if you actually want to know. I was surprised myself to see the excuse of 'it's an anime' and 'suspend your disbelief' being used in less than a 1:0 ratio. I can tell you right now that some of the questions are answered through outside the t.v. show.
 

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I'll tag it to be sure, about jurassic park. Which I loved, but...

the #$^#ing cliff appearing out of bum#$^# nowhere in jurassic park...

one moment road/fence/forest(with goat and stuff)

next moment road/fence/50+ foot drop

Jurassic park 3 is actually one of my worst films of all times. I'm not even going to list them but that movie has immersion breaking bullshit pretty much every scene.
 

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Nouw said:
bartholen said:
Wohohooo boy, does this thread have good timing. I just compiled a massive list of issues like these from Neon Genesis Evangelion, and I think I could have come up with double the amount if I wanted to. I'm pretty sure this is going to piss a lot of Eva fans off.

- In the first episode, Shinji has apparently just arrived in Tokyo-3 when it's under alert. Why has he come just at the time when the angel has attacked? More precisely, why didn't Gendo invite him just a little bit earlier if he knew when the angels were going to come back?

- And if the place is under alert, how did Shinji miss the alarms? Ok, so maybe the people had already evacuated when he arrived, but that means there was still public transportation coming into the city. You'd think that such things would shut down in case of, you know, MONSTERS BRINGING THE APOCALYPSE. And even then you'd think he'd be a bit confused to arrive into a giant city and see absolutely nobody anywhere.

- Misato drives like a maniac to pick Shinji up and get him to the Geofront in time, which implies they're in a bit of a hurry. But she doesn't seem to be the least bit upset when they get on the fairly slow-looking train thing or when they get lost in the Geofront, losing precious time all the while. Why is this?

- Why would anyone build a city with millions of people in it on top of the trigger to the apocalypse, which gets continuously attacked by monsters the size of skyscrapers, bombarded and destroyed? Especially if you knew the angels would attack there, and there alone. There doesn't seem to be a single good reason to want to live in Tokyo-3.

- If the angels were attacking only the Geofront, what was all that talk about other nations possessing evas, and there being restrictions on how many a country could have? What other uses did they have for the only thing that supposedly could stop the angels? Why not just give them all to Japan, unless they were warring amongst themselves with giant robots?

- In episode 6 NERV directs all of Japan's electricity into a single rifle in a matter of hours. Okay, so they can do that. But when the angel who splits into two attacks, they can't speed up the repairs of the evas just enough to get them into action before the monster awakens? While it just, you know, STANDS IDLY BY DOING NOHING!

- From the very same episode: a monster which brings about the end of the world if it gets close enough has split itself in two and lies in a dormant state for 5 days. First off, how do they know it will be in that state for that exact amount of time? Second, the monster lies dormant, doing nothing. Why does their only plan include having two teenagers who hate each other playing freaking tetris to learn some ridiculous coreography that will apparently go exactly according to the monster's movements, despite them HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW IT IS GOING TO ACT????????

- We never see how the various halls and hangars in the Geofront are located in relation to one another, nor do we have any idea how large a construct it is.

- Since the angels are all attacking from ground level, why wouldn't they just store the evas there, instead of what seems like several miles underground?

- If the goal of the angels was to get to Lilith at Terminal Dogma, what was up with the amphibious angel in episode 8? How was it going to get several miles underground? Or for that matter, how was it going to move on dry land at all? Was it going to eat its way down?

- They say many times that the evas are the only thing that can defeat the angels. But in episode 11 they kill the angel by merely shooting at it with a gigantic rifle. Did the fact that it was the eva operating the rifle instead of, say, a turret, make the difference? Do the evas have some magical touch that turns normal projectiles into magical bullets? Or if the AT field needed to be negated, why didn't they fight every angel with the same strategy: an eva gets close to the angel to nullify the AT field and then the military blasts it to smithereens. Seems pretty functional to me.
Your answers lie here [http://forum.evageeks.org/forum/discussion/] if you can be bothered to find them. I mean, if you actually want to know. I was surprised myself to see the excuse of 'it's an anime' and 'suspend your disbelief' being used in less than a 1:0 ratio. I can tell you right now that some of the questions are answered through outside the t.v. show.
Yeah, sorry, I can't really be bothered. I'd say the same thing about Evangelion's answers lying outside the series as I'd say about Prometheus: if the work of fiction alone can't provide enough answers to actually make sense, it has failed on a very basic level. And I am counting EoE as part of the series. Not that it does any good, though.
 

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bartholen said:
Nouw said:
bartholen said:
Wohohooo boy, does this thread have good timing. I just compiled a massive list of issues like these from Neon Genesis Evangelion, and I think I could have come up with double the amount if I wanted to. I'm pretty sure this is going to piss a lot of Eva fans off.

- In the first episode, Shinji has apparently just arrived in Tokyo-3 when it's under alert. Why has he come just at the time when the angel has attacked? More precisely, why didn't Gendo invite him just a little bit earlier if he knew when the angels were going to come back?

- And if the place is under alert, how did Shinji miss the alarms? Ok, so maybe the people had already evacuated when he arrived, but that means there was still public transportation coming into the city. You'd think that such things would shut down in case of, you know, MONSTERS BRINGING THE APOCALYPSE. And even then you'd think he'd be a bit confused to arrive into a giant city and see absolutely nobody anywhere.

- Misato drives like a maniac to pick Shinji up and get him to the Geofront in time, which implies they're in a bit of a hurry. But she doesn't seem to be the least bit upset when they get on the fairly slow-looking train thing or when they get lost in the Geofront, losing precious time all the while. Why is this?

- Why would anyone build a city with millions of people in it on top of the trigger to the apocalypse, which gets continuously attacked by monsters the size of skyscrapers, bombarded and destroyed? Especially if you knew the angels would attack there, and there alone. There doesn't seem to be a single good reason to want to live in Tokyo-3.

- If the angels were attacking only the Geofront, what was all that talk about other nations possessing evas, and there being restrictions on how many a country could have? What other uses did they have for the only thing that supposedly could stop the angels? Why not just give them all to Japan, unless they were warring amongst themselves with giant robots?

- In episode 6 NERV directs all of Japan's electricity into a single rifle in a matter of hours. Okay, so they can do that. But when the angel who splits into two attacks, they can't speed up the repairs of the evas just enough to get them into action before the monster awakens? While it just, you know, STANDS IDLY BY DOING NOHING!

- From the very same episode: a monster which brings about the end of the world if it gets close enough has split itself in two and lies in a dormant state for 5 days. First off, how do they know it will be in that state for that exact amount of time? Second, the monster lies dormant, doing nothing. Why does their only plan include having two teenagers who hate each other playing freaking tetris to learn some ridiculous coreography that will apparently go exactly according to the monster's movements, despite them HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW IT IS GOING TO ACT????????

- We never see how the various halls and hangars in the Geofront are located in relation to one another, nor do we have any idea how large a construct it is.

- Since the angels are all attacking from ground level, why wouldn't they just store the evas there, instead of what seems like several miles underground?

- If the goal of the angels was to get to Lilith at Terminal Dogma, what was up with the amphibious angel in episode 8? How was it going to get several miles underground? Or for that matter, how was it going to move on dry land at all? Was it going to eat its way down?

- They say many times that the evas are the only thing that can defeat the angels. But in episode 11 they kill the angel by merely shooting at it with a gigantic rifle. Did the fact that it was the eva operating the rifle instead of, say, a turret, make the difference? Do the evas have some magical touch that turns normal projectiles into magical bullets? Or if the AT field needed to be negated, why didn't they fight every angel with the same strategy: an eva gets close to the angel to nullify the AT field and then the military blasts it to smithereens. Seems pretty functional to me.
Your answers lie here [http://forum.evageeks.org/forum/discussion/] if you can be bothered to find them. I mean, if you actually want to know. I was surprised myself to see the excuse of 'it's an anime' and 'suspend your disbelief' being used in less than a 1:0 ratio. I can tell you right now that some of the questions are answered through outside the t.v. show.
Yeah, sorry, I can't really be bothered. I'd say the same thing about Evangelion's answers lying outside the series as I'd say about Prometheus: if the work of fiction alone can't provide enough answers to actually make sense, it has failed on a very basic level. And I am counting EoE as part of the series.
That was wishful thinking ;). I meant something similar to word of god except in this case it was a bit more direct and stylized to be a leak. Think viral websites.

And that was only for the question regarding the purpose of Angels too. How dare you compare Evangelion to Prometheus :mad:.

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I was just about to say that myself.
The thing about eva is, it doesn't make sense until you watch it a million time,s read supplementing texts and force yourself to understand it.
That is why it has so many people coming back for more.

Also the whole, why is Misato not in more of a rush on the train ride thing, I think that is a cultural thing.
In Japan, you get used to the idea that you can rush all you want until you get to the train, but once you are on it, you have to wait patiently.

And that right there is the reason I hope that hollywood never does a movie of eva because they just dont understand these little cultural stuff...
 

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IronMit said:

How about this to play with your mind about skyfall


Bond breaks into M's apartment in the beginning rather easily. Yet Evil bad dude has to set up some elaborate highest mensa level shenanigans to get her.
Captcha: trolololol.......... indeed
 

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flarty said:
IronMit said:

How about this to play with your mind about skyfall


Bond breaks into M's apartment in the beginning rather easily. Yet Evil bad dude has to set up some elaborate highest mensa level shenanigans to get her.
Captcha: trolololol.......... indeed
Skyfall is either a really great film or I'm just gullible, but when I was watching it in the cinema I never once thought "that's impossible" or "how did they do that?" You could perhaps explain why Silva didn't just send someone to kill M with his plan: it seemed to mean to humiliate M first, Silva proving multiple times he's smarter than her and finally making a show of her downfall, with the courthouse scene and all.

That's the convenient thing about crazy villains for screenwriters: if they act in a way that's not logical it's because, they're you know, CRAZY! As in illogical.
 

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bartholen said:
flarty said:
IronMit said:

How about this to play with your mind about skyfall


Bond breaks into M's apartment in the beginning rather easily. Yet Evil bad dude has to set up some elaborate highest mensa level shenanigans to get her.
Captcha: trolololol.......... indeed
Skyfall is either a really great film or I'm just gullible, but when I was watching it in the cinema I never once thought "that's impossible" or "how did they do that?" You could perhaps explain why Silva didn't just send someone to kill M with his plan: it seemed to mean to humiliate M first, Silva proving multiple times he's smarter than her and finally making a show of her downfall, with the courthouse scene and all.

That's the convenient thing about crazy villains for screenwriters: if they act in a way that's not logical it's because, they're you know, CRAZY! As in illogical.
Even if the 'crazy bad guy' plan has a few holes it should be consistent to the character.
In the Dark Knight the Joker relied on a crap load of happen-stance for his plans but everything was consistent to his crazy genius.

In Skyfall, Silva is apparently so calculating, waiting years, doing all this cool unexplained hacking. His painted as someone with so much cunning and patience. But his endgame is to run into the court house and have a shoot out? And when that failed he jumped into another crazy gunfight.

The movie is not as clever as everyone thinks it is.
John Logan wrote star trek Nemesis. See Plinkett's review of it. And the two regular writers' previous movie that was not based on an Ian Flemings novel was Die Another Day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZjkHUrEuHc&playnext=1&list=PLBA506202AF61F844
 

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Rblade said:
I'll tag it to be sure, about jurassic park. Which I loved, but...

the #$^#ing cliff appearing out of bum#$^# nowhere in jurassic park...

one moment road/fence/forest(with goat and stuff)

next moment road/fence/50+ foot drop

Jurassic park 3 is actually one of my worst films of all times. I'm not even going to list them but that movie has immersion breaking bullshit pretty much every scene.
I remember seeing JP so many times and I never noticed that until it was pointed out to me a few years ago. Now it's all I see during what should be an awesome scene! DAMN YOU INTERNET!!!
 

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The Dark Knight rises. Seriously, how the fuck did he get back to Gotham? I didn't even need a full explanation they could've just mentioned it in passing like they did with Thor in The Avengers. But no, they couldn't do that. Also why couldn't Gordon figure out who Batman was? It's so freaking obvious but the only one who could was that retarded character played by Joseph Gordon Levitt.
 

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I'll tag it to be sure, about jurassic park. Which I loved, but...

the #$^#ing cliff appearing out of bum#$^# nowhere in jurassic park...

one moment road/fence/forest(with goat and stuff)

next moment road/fence/50+ foot drop
Same. I liked the movie but how
did the f*cking T-rex get into the visitors center at the end? There was no damage to the outside of the building, so I guess he just tunneled his way in or something.
 

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New Tomb Raider. Spoilers inbound. And lots of complaints.

Okay, so the cultists want to resurrect the Oni queen or whatever to get off the island, and the Oni want to resurrect their queen to take over the world. Or something. So why are they fighting?
Mathias gets through their ranks up to the top of the fucking island with the loud, struggling, unwilling heir to the throne so it's a good guess that the Oni can tell friend from foe, and assuming the mercenaries know that they have the same goal as the Oni, why would they start any fights whatsoever? They're all out to kill Lara, but noooooooooooo, they attack one another.

On that topic, why do they kill Whitman (was that his name?) as soon as he mentions queen? I assume it's like a "dishonour" thing but if they're actually serious about reviving their queen they should be up for investigating.

Also, the nerdy guy, Alex I think his name was. How did he get back to the Endurance? Lara needed a reinforced bow and all her experience, and when you get there you just find this ************ with his leg somehow crushed surrounded by mercenaries. The water basically kills you if you swim in it so how the shit did he get over there?

Oh, and when Roth takes the axe in the back to save Lara. ************ there exists an X axis, jump to the side, none o' dat swivel shit.

Oh, and if Lara's been studying this queen god for so long, how come she's so fucking ignorant about it? Seriously, she's clueless about the whole thing until the end.

What about when Lara gets KOed at the beach in the beginning? She's on the beach, and she ends up in a place halfway across the island with one exit that's a linear path. The way from the beach to the cave just can't be done when carrying someone, this is demonstrated the fifty fucking times you have to backtrack around the island to find the audio logs and shit.

SPEAKING OF. How are the Endurance logs getting so far across the island? These things are all over the place! The crew only ever goes to the beach and a few other places!
And in the crew, the black lady, whatsherface, her daughter in the picture is like, as black as she is. But her dad is Roth. The whitest guy alive! The fuck?

Also, can someone clear this up, are Sam and Lara lezzing it up? Seriously, whenever they're in a scene together I half expect them to lay down and spoon and the other half expects some weird sort of make out session.

FUCK IT I'M OUT