The Daily Quest - Small F2P Rant

[Siyano_v1legacy]

Hello, I wanted to start a discussion on the daily quest a lot of the Free to play game give you.
Most of them give you resource for playing the game.
My rant is, why do we not gain those resource on login instead of having to play for X games and such.
For example in Heroes of the Storm you have the "Play 3 games with an Assassin Heroes" but at the end you just play against AI and win 100% of the time in about 15 minutes, so is it really necessary?
Does you (the company) get anything if I am "forced" to do really specific task just to get what in the end is free and barely is challenging to get?
Feel like there no use, I should just get those reward no matter what I want to play or do.
I prefer the F2P game that give you daily reward instead
I am missing something that quest are suppose to propose rather than a daily login?

 

[Siyano_v1legacy]

Positive reinforcement of their product which in then turns habitual
Prevents the common laymen from farming rewards with a simple login

 

[DoPo]

I am missing something that quest are suppose to propose rather than a daily login?

You are missing something - since you have to play the game to get the reward, that accomplishes several things:

- boosts the activity of the game. If everybody just had to log in and that's it, there would be far less people playing at any one time. Having bigger number of concurrent players means more other people would be likely to join the game, since it registers as being more active. Larger player count also helps with bragging rights (a.k.a. marketing/advertisement).
- by having you play this game, you are not playing another game or doing anything else, for that matter. Time is a limiter resource, so putting some of it in a game, is almost always beneficial for it. If you were to spend a minute in one game, and then an hour in another one, then the latter will reap the benefits of that spent time, not the former.
- increases the engagement with the game. It partly overlaps with the above, but it's worth mentioning separately. If you are forced to play 3 games, maybe you'll then play another one, two, or five.
- in addition, to the above, you are more likely to reject rival games. If you think that doesn't work, you haven seen how much people would defend their chosen game and slander the "competition" - look at any discussion board for, say, Diablo 3 or Path of Exile and mention the other one. Sure, some people understand that the two are not mutually exclusive and you can play and enjoy both, but you will also get a lo-o-o-ot of others who think the exact opposite

So, if you've noticed, there is pretty much nothing that benefits you, all of these things benefit the developers. So, this is what you are missing - you are looking at it from the wrong angle.

 

[Siyano_v1legacy]

hmm I guess, its may work,

1- but like HOTS you are playing AI, so having more player doesnt change much, it not changing how much player are going in quick match or ranked.

2- If I have the time to play 3 games and I have to do the daily quest its hinder slightly my enjoyment of playing how I want

3- I likely reject to play any other game because I have quest that "force" to play this? I don't understand this one

4- Daily quest "force" you to come back once at least every 3 day or you lose daily quest worth, yes, daily login too, but at worst you could just log in and quit

5- I would not mind if the quest were changed in just "play 3 games" instead of "play 3 something specific" like some Hots quest are and I dont mind those

 

[DoPo]

1- but like HOTS you are playing AI, so having more player doesnt change much, it not changing how much player are going in quick match or ranked.

Of course it changes it. Not everybody will go and play against bots. Let's say 50% go into games with other players. Heck, for the sake of argument let's say only 30% do - that's still a lot of people - if 1000 decide they want the reward today, that's 300 playing games, which means 30 full lobbies. Of course, it is actually going to be more than that, as they are going to be matched with other players, so they would go into, say, 100 lobbies. And they would all need to play multiple games.

I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but they are likely to be more significant than that - I would hazard a guess that 30% is too low a percentage and 1000 people is too low of the amount of people who would go and just do the quests.

2- If I have the time to play 3 games and I have to do the daily quest its hinder slightly my enjoyment of playing how I want

Indeed. A percentage of the people will even consider dropping a one or both other games, so they can more fully enjoy this one. Yes, some will likely drop the one that has them go and do daily quests but...well, you don't really want those people in your game anyway - F2P games thrive on people who stick with them, not people who just occasionally drop in. Weeding the latter group out is actually beneficial.

3- I likely reject to play any other game because I have quest that "force" to play this? I don't understand this one

You specifically - maybe not, but a generic "you" - yes. I mentioned a possible reason above, and I mentioned in my previous post about the Diablo 3/Path of Exile rivalry. There are plenty of people who will choose to stick with one game and also decry "competitors". See also the edition wars with TT games. Happens all the time naturally, but this is a way to force it even more.