The Elder Scrolls online- The Alliances Cinematic Trailer

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Ruedyn

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So, this came out today. Just thought I'd ask the Escapists for opinions, and healthy discussion, since doing that on a youtube comment section is a laughable effort at best.

(Pretty sure this is the only thread about this, so far at least.)
 

SajuukKhar

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Sorry, but, how was that video Elder Scrolls again?

all I saw was some super generic fantasy crap.

This is just not Elder Scrolls, and elves are not supposed to look like men with pointy ears.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Elves are not supposed to look like men with pointy ears.
To be fair, they looked like terrible clay monsters in Oblivion. Though they all did...

Personally, I wonder why there are no khajiits, or any other race that might require pointy ears, and maybe some paint. I think it's just kind of lazy.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Sorry, but, how was that video Elder Scrolls again?
This is about my reaction. I'm not entirely certain to whom Zenimax is hoping to cater to with this trailer. I'd think that the main selling point of an Elder Scrolls MMO versus, say, any other MMO, is that it's the Elder Scrolls, and the Elder Scrolls is awesome.[footnote]Grammatically awkward sentences ahoy![/footnote] The problem is, in order to make me excited about an Elder Scrolls MMO, I'm going to need to see that it is, in fact, the Elder Scrolls. To win me over, this trailer should've made giddy with fanboyish excitement.

It didn't.

Which is a pity, because it's otherwise very well done. The visuals are nice and there's a fair amount of generic awesome, but I'd like to see more Elder Scrolls awesome.
 

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I could not even tell which faction was which. And why are there no Khajiit or Argonians? Those are easily recognizable staples of the Elder Scrolls franchise. The trailer also does not really show how the game will be. Nor is it how we would like it to be: where's the exploration? This is just some strange battle for a very strange tower.
 

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ruedyn said:
SajuukKhar said:
Elves are not supposed to look like men with pointy ears.
To be fair, they looked like terrible clay monsters in Oblivion. Though they all did...

Personally, I wonder why there are no khajiits, or any other race that might require pointy ears, and maybe some paint. I think it's just kind of lazy.
There is and Argonian in the Background in the cave. He is in shadow but he is there.

Edit. How did I notice that?
 

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Eddie the head said:
ruedyn said:
SajuukKhar said:
Elves are not supposed to look like men with pointy ears.
To be fair, they looked like terrible clay monsters in Oblivion. Though they all did...

Personally, I wonder why there are no khajiits, or any other race that might require pointy ears, and maybe some paint. I think it's just kind of lazy.
There is and Argonian in the Background in the cave. He is in shadow but he is there.
Oh, the spiky headed thing in the very back on one frame :|

Why would they even bother? I'm almost positive it was even edited to keep his scaly arse out of shot at all times.

shrimpcel said:
I could not even tell which faction was which. And why are there no Khajiit or Argonians? Those are easily recognizable staples of the Elder Scrolls franchise. The trailer also does not really show how the game will be. Nor is it how we would like it to be: where's the exploration? This is just some strange battle for a very strange tower.
It seems to be the sort of trailer to get non-Elder Scrolls fans into it. Which is the sort of trailer they REALLY shouldn't be making. At least not at this point in the game :\
 

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Well, if the game ends up sucking, we can all be thankful for the fact that Bethesda can just say that Molag Bal's planemeld caused a dragonbreak, and then write the entire game out of the canon.

That's what I love about a series whose gods are literal personifications of what they represent, if the gods die, everything goes to shit, and if the god of time dies, so does time itself, so fuck everything that happened in the time that the time god re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-died.

Akatosh does have a very bad habit of not being able to stay alive, or, well, dead, he keeps dieing after hes already dead, because, fuck logic.
 

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At least Blur Studio are getting work. Not a good Elder Scrolls piece, but the bridge harpoons were interesting.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
Well, if the game ends up sucking, we can all be thankful for the fact that Bethesda can just say that Molag Bal's planemeld caused a dragonbreak, and then write the entire game out of the canon.

That's what I love about a series whose gods are literal personifications of what they represent, if the gods die, everything goes to shit, and if the god of time dies, so does time itself, so fuck everything that happened in the time that the time god re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-died.

Akatosh does have a very bad habit of not being able to stay alive, or, well, dead, he keeps dieing after hes already dead, because, fuck logic.
Trailers, especially ones like this, don't represent the final product. This is evidenced best by Dead Island.

I think the game has potential to be good.
 

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I think this trailer is trying to tell people "This is what this game is going to be like. You're no longer just one hero, destined to save the world from a crisis. You'll be adventuring with others, thwarting a daedric gods plan with others and you'll be fighting in a war with others." At least that's the vibe I get when I watch this.

And why are there no Khajiit or Argonians?
Yeah, I'm a bit clueless as to why as well. Either the other races in their respective alliances don't trust them all that much (The Khajit and Argonian race have always been controversial for being thieves and such afaik) or the people who made the cinematic were too lazy to put them in, tis saddening nonetheless.

But other than that this trailer is pretty neat. I feel it represents Elder Scrolls but in a different way, which is great in my opinion. Hopefully they'll be more cinematic trailers focusing on other fields of the game.
 

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I'll be honestly surprised if this game doesn't just end up being a reskinned and crappier version of WoW. Note to the devs, trying to beat WoW by copying WoW will leave you all without a job.
 

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ShinyCharizard said:
I'll be honestly surprised if this game doesn't just end up being a reskinned and crappier version of WoW. Note to the devs, trying to beat WoW by copying WoW will leave you all without a job.
According to Jesse Cox on his review on the Alpha(!!) Version of the game, it is far off from being a WoW Clone. Anyone wishing to know more on what will and could be in the game should give this a watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp0ykvotEI
 

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Apointicus said:
ShinyCharizard said:
I'll be honestly surprised if this game doesn't just end up being a reskinned and crappier version of WoW. Note to the devs, trying to beat WoW by copying WoW will leave you all without a job.
According to Jesse Cox on his review on the Alpha(!!) Version of the game, it is far off from being a WoW Clone. Anyone wishing to know more on what will and could be in the game should give this a watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLp0ykvotEI
After watching that I'm now somewhat optimistic about this game.
 

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Well, impressive as it was, I couldn't tell any of the factions apart. I couldn't even tell what race was what. Why did they have to go for generic white males (obviously being Imperials and/or Nords) as the main attraction, and then either a Bosmer or Altmer female that just looked like a person with pointy ears? Why couldn't the badass guy with the slick bow and knife skills have been an Argonian?

Anyway, it's only a cinematic trailer, so I'm not deterred or excited either way. It was a fun watch.
 

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wombat_of_war said:
its pretty bad when ive played elder scrolls games since daggerfall and im having trouble figuring out what races are what because they look so generic.
I don't really understand, most of the characters are easily identifiable to me and I've been playing ES games since Oblivion. If you round up what the races are well known for doing (Ex. The girl who casted spells and used a single sword is probably a High Elf, since wood elves are known for their expertise in Archery) and what alliance they're in its pretty easy.

As for the races looking generic? I think that most of the races in ES look generic to begin with.

i take the word of you guys that there is an argonian in the background for a shot in the dungeon because i didnt see one. hang on could the werewolf things be khajiit?
Yes there is indeed an Argonian i realized, thanks for that. =P

As for the Werewolves being Khajit? Nope, they're with the Aldmeri Legion now due to the High Elf Queen helping them from a fatal plague that thinned down their numbers. And it looks like they didn't feature the Khajiit alongside the high + wood elves in this video.
 

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It took for them to square off against each other for me to realise that the lady mage and the dude assassin were from a different race/faction, because they both just looked like humans.

Other than that, its a fairly standard CGI trailer for a fantasy MMO. I give it a wholehearted meh.
 

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I honestly thought it was everyone vs. the Romans till the end where they all awkwardly circle one another and I was left scratching my head before realizing 'oh, that's three groups all inconveniently attacking the same tower at the same time without knowing of one another... because that makes perfect sense'.

I'm also not clear on what the factions are. Vikings, elves, and... other elves? Or was that acrobat bridge guy a human because even having played Morrowind and Oblivion I couldn't see anything identifiable on him. Also why are they all attacking one outpost (I presume?) guarding that capital city from Oblivion? Are all the forces attacking the city from the same direction? Also are there armies, or are these just three smallish elite groups?

I don't understand...
 

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Well, impressive as it was, I couldn't tell any of the factions apart. I couldn't even tell what race was what.
If you've researched the game a bit (http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/game-guide) it's really easy to tell apart what the races and factions are.

Why did they have to go for generic white males (obviously being Imperials and/or Nords) as the main attraction, and then either a Bosmer or Altmer female that just looked like a person with pointy ears?
Nords and Imperials are all/or predominately white and the Redguards are all black, im pretty sure its so people can tell which race is which, and it sticks to the general look of the races. As for the following races being the main attraction...

- The Daggerfall Covenant is ruled by a Breton (Redguards and Orcs belong in this faction)

- The Ebonheart Pact is ruled by a Nord (Dark Elves and Argonians)

- The Aldmeri Legion is ruled by, who else, the High Elves (Wood elves, Khajiit)

Notice a pattern?

As for the elves, the female is definitely Altmer. Altmers are known for spellcraft and Bosmers are known for their expertise in Archery. I'm guessing the people who were following the Altmer were all Bosmers, since they generally like hunting (How many Bosmer archers have you encountered that LOVE hunting?) and their armor makes them look like hunters, there is the possibility that one of the guys in that armor is Khajiit but with the blur effects in the video its really hard to tell.

Volan said:
Why couldn't the badass guy with the slick bow and knife skills have been an Argonian?
Apparently in Lore, Bretons are known for being really deadly assassins(This was pointed out by a Youtube comment, take it or leave it.) Also, if an Argonian was the assassin it would not make sense, the Argonians belong in a different faction.