The Han Solo - Parsecs Debate

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lordmardok

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"You've never heard of the Millenium Falcon? It?s the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs."

This line has made so many astronomy and science enthusiasts irrationally angry for one fairly simple reason. Parsecs is not a unit of time. It is a unit of distance. This is entirely true and from a surface level I think everyone agrees that distance is not subjective based on how fast Solo's space-junker is flying.

However, it is my opinion that the statement itself is in fact a genuine boast of real fame and glory. It is neither erroneous, nor improperly used. Now I would like to preface my explanation for that by stating that in no way do I think that George Lucas is incapable of confusing parsecs for a unit of time. That's totally possible. However, that being said, I can actually put forth a solid argument for why stating that a space smuggling run was made in less than 12 parsecs is actually a scientifically feasible boast.

To start with I will ask you to imagine how fundamentally different it would be to smuggle goods through space, rather than on a planet most large-scale smuggling operations are over land or sea. A smuggler would have to ensure that he does not cross sovereign space where he could potentially be detected by system security. On a planet that security might be prohibitive to the point that the route is impossible, but in space you can always move in almost any direction far enough that you could avoid any obstacle. Of course, that would require covering a vast distance. See where I'm going? On a planet, one needs to consider terrain, while space is about 99% just that: Space. So a smuggler who plays it safe would take long routes to avoid system patrols, intersystem armed forces, and the like who might take umbrage with their liberal interpretation of trade.

But a savvy smuggler? One who is not only a wild card but skilled enough to back up their devil-may-care attitude towards law enforcement? A smuggler like Solo? He would flout the law for the sake of flouting it and if he makes a profit along the way so much the better. The Kessel Run refers to smuggling spice between Kessel and the Si'Kaata cluster, which is normally an 18 parsec route. Solo, however, could easily decide to screw convention and take shortcuts, cutting through protected space and patrolled system routes regardless of the danger because he is confident that he can escape any attempt to pin him down. In other words, he could reduce the distance of the Kessel Run from 18 parsecs to less than 12 parsecs. That would be a considerable distance reduction, and the ability to make such a dangerous run would mean he could make a sizable profit by cutting ahead of the competing smugglers to sell his cargo at a premium while his competition is still making up the other 6 parsecs.

That's my explanation anyway. To be entirely honest, I don't even like Solo as a character that much, but that throw-away line in the movie made such a stink in the nerd community that it rankled with me. I always wondered why people could not grasp the concept of shortcuts cutting down a smuggling route's distance.

So there you have it. It is entirely possible to make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs!
 

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Though, to be fair, a boast in distance is still a boast in time, since he had to cover less of it.
 

Redd the Sock

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Lucas openly admitted he didn't know what the term meant when he used it.

EU books went in your theory though, but added a black hole cluster on the route, making his 11 parsec run impossibly dangerous, therefore impressive.
 

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lordmardok said:
"You've never heard of the Millenium Falcon? It?s the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs."

But a savvy smuggler? One who is not only a wild card but skilled enough to back up their devil-may-care attitude towards law enforcement? A smuggler like Solo? He would flout the law for the sake of flouting it and if he makes a profit along the way so much the better. The Kessel Run refers to smuggling spice between Kessel and the Si'Kaata cluster, which is normally an 18 parsec route. Solo, however, could easily decide to screw convention and take shortcuts, cutting through protected space and patrolled system routes regardless of the danger because he is confident that he can escape any attempt to pin him down. In other words, he could reduce the distance of the Kessel Run from 18 parsecs to less than 12 parsecs. That would be a considerable distance reduction, and the ability to make such a dangerous run would mean he could make a sizable profit by cutting ahead of the competing smugglers to sell his cargo at a premium while his competition is still making up the other 6 parsecs.
I see one big problem with your theory, which is illustrated in your quote: "It?s the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs."
The ship. Not the pilot. If Solo had done it, he'd be boasting of himself.
 

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Funnily enough, the script actually notes the absurdity of the statement. To quote:

Han: It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs!

Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation
I'm not joking. That's a direct excerpt from the script (Courtesy of the Internet Movie Script Database)
 

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Eh, it works either way. The simpler explanation is that Han made it up, figuring that these country bumpkins wouldn't know the difference. It's an example of his mercenary attitude at the start of the film. The old EU explanation works too, since one would need a ship as fast as the Falcon to cut so much distance (and therefore time) without falling victim to the black hole cluster.

Personally, I'm kind of hoping the new EU leaves it ambiguous whether it's true or not. Not everything needs an explanation. Indeed, it's that sense of mystery that helped make me a Star Wars fan in the first place. That didn't stop the old EU, though. Seriously, they had entire books chronicling the backstories of Jabba's henchmen [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tales_from_the_Mos_Eisley_Cantina], just to name a few examples. It was absurd.
 

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Redd the Sock said:
Lucas openly admitted he didn't know what the term meant when he used it.

EU books went in your theory though, but added a black hole cluster on the route, making his 11 parsec run impossibly dangerous, therefore impressive.
Argh, damn it! You beat me to it!

Yeah, one of the Han Solo Trilogy books addresses this very fact. Han is making the Kessel Run, which is lined with black holes, and he skirts a black hole. He goes waaaaay closer to it than any other ship has, and it nearly kills him and Chewie. After they barely manage to survive, Han checks the instruments and sees that he made the run shorter, and thus faster, than any other ship has ever done. Chewie doesn't believe this, stating that the instruments must have malfunctioned because of the stress and the force of the black hole. Han, of course, brushes this off and that's how he made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs.

If you're a smuggler or familiar with the Kessel Run, he's basically bragging that his ship is so fast that it outran the gravity pull of a black hole.
 

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lordmardok said:
That's my explanation anyway. To be entirely honest, I don't even like Solo as a character that much, but that throw-away line in the movie made such a stink in the nerd community that it rankled with me. I always wondered why people could not grasp the concept of shortcuts cutting down a smuggling route's distance.

So there you have it. It is entirely possible to make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs!
I've seen this debated before on other sites. Yeah, my opinion on this matter is that what you've just said is a perfectly fine explanation for what that line could mean, and could make an excellent retcon, but until I have someone involved with the script writing come forward and explicitly say that this was their intention, then I call bullshit on the idea that they didn't simply throw in some scientific terms in the incorrect context ...

Asita said:
Funnily enough, the script actually notes the absurdity of the statement. To quote:

Han: It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs!

Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation
I'm not joking. That's a direct excerpt from the script (Courtesy of the Internet Movie Script Database)
.. Really, okay. Yeah, I just played the movie and checked that spot, and Ben does indeed react to that quote. Although, even with that knowledge in mind, his reaction is a little difficult to gauge, and easily mistakable for being sincerely impressed by the boast, but it does seem Parsec was intentionally used incorrectly to show Han bullshitting them.

Well, looks like that debate is solved then.
 

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As an eve player, this seems obvious to me
Consider a parsec a jump, and there you go, you always check that you got the shortest safest route on autopilot
You can even smuggle things in eve, i think... i probably exploded when i tried that in my early days