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ToysforGuns

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The reason I'm writing this is because I have been talking about this with my friend and I really need to get it off my chest. Before I start this though, I would like to make clear that I am in NO WAY anti-religious. I would also like to note that I have just turned 15 and I have not planned this post, I'm just going to write from the heart, which is why I'm going to have horrible grammar (and I do apologize) and why this is going to be totally unstructured.

I have been depressed for a long time, mostly because I don't like school and I never really "fit in". I always pondered life, which made me more depressed thinking that there is no meaning to life. I see life as a congregation of the damned (love that song by the way) and I think the writer of that song explained it perfectly:

"It kind of feels like in a lot of ways that we, as members of a society, are just gathering around and collectively getting fucked over. When you look at what's going on in our economy and how other people treat each other, it's kind of like we're all just lemmings. We're lined up blankly staring blindly at nothing and just going along with the flow like a congregation of the damned" - Alex Varkatzas

And this got me thinking a lot. Most people spend their life just waltzing through life, having a family and making some fucker richer while they struggle with bills and work. That made me even more depressed. I'm scared that's what my life will be. That's what society tell us to live. Whats the point in life, then? If that's all we do. We play video games, watch TV and listen to music to escape life. While that's something we pretty much all know and accept, its only a temporary escape (again, obvious) but eventually we face life. This is whats happened to me. Sure, we may ask ourselves "What is the meaning of life" but no one really gives an answer, and most of us turn to religion.

I see too many flaws in modern religion. It worked in older centuries, but religion hasn't conformed much into the 21st century. religion can be a beautiful thing, but I see it as restricting freedom. Sorry if this is becoming offensive to a religious person, but just let me explain. In MY OPINION, there are two types of religions; a moral one that teaches us how to live and a religion that tries to explain the universe. The problem with the latter is science has come up with hundreds of theories that makes sense. The first one is what all religion's SHOULD BE and while most religions are like that, they haven't conformed to 21st century. I'm starting to get off topic, but one of the main flaws I see in religion is how they see sex before marriage and masturbation is sin (At least that's what they tell us out our school, seriously). Anyways, most, nearly all religious people see sex as "temptation". This doesn't make sense to me, if it's temptation then whats it got to prove? I know that argument has probably been used before, but I just thought of it myself. Why is something so pleasurable a sin? I know sex itself isn't a sin, as it is a necessary step in reproduction, but why is masturbation or sex before marriage a sin? Our bodies (or at least my body) wants it 24/7 , and if that's temptation then, well, fuck I failed it. And masturbation has a lot of benefits, and please, I am trying to be mature. My friend also made a good point; 'How is it possible to believe in 2 religions since both say do not worship in any other?. It's a sin for both religions'

OK, I have gone way off topic, but hey, I just love typing (hearing those clicks forming a pattern turns me on ;) )and voicing my opinion. Continuing my exploration for the meaning of life, I turn to my parents. I ask them "Why are we living, why is working many hours of the day just to come home for a few hours, sleep and repeat a life?" they're reply was "That's just life, their are highs and lows, but ultimately you will enjoy life". this didn't sell it either, doing that is not life, and how are their highs and lows if that's all we do? Society is too structured now days, why is their a proper way to live? We are conformed to fit in a society.

This made me realize the best part of our life is in our teenager years. Being a teenager is the closest we will be to freedom. We rebel and that is what is expected of us. We have room to experiment, make mistakes, fuck up and it doesn't generally ruin our life (not all the time, at least). But the problem with being a teenager is we are easily influenced and manipulated. A lot of people never see the beauty in life. Sure you can say the best part of life is life because its a magical thing blah blah blah too mushy and boring for me. I don't think that's the meaning of life. To be honest, their is no meaning of life. We are just a mistake, our planet was lucky enough to have the right temperature, atmosphere etc for bacteria to thrive (and out of the billions of planets, its BOUND to happen). The meaning of our life, our existence is the same as every other animal. To survive. To reproduce. So back to my original point, the beauty of life is what you make of it. We are just a sub-total of decisions we make from when we where born and that is the beauty of life!!

If you read the whole thing, congratulations and I hope you have got something out of it. While this post may seem pointless, I want to see your opinions. Writing about this had made me feel better and I see life differently now, and I will enjoy it more. This article is riddled with mistakes, errors or maybe even contradictions, but I wrote this at the heat of the moment and straight from the heart. So yeah, DISCUSS!. I'd also like to give credit to my friend who is also 15 and a gamer, who has been polite and reading all of my conversation. props to him, plus he helped come up with some of points. He wanted me to use his name, so the nice gentleman who put up with my rant is Jayce.
(1,110 words... Would this make a good essay? :p)
 

Miles000

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I agree with you on almost everything you said there. (except the typing thing, that's weird even for me) I've been feeling like that for a while now and while I haven't really gotten over it I'm trying to make the most of what we have.

On the topic of religion I too see critical flaws in the most fundamental ideals of almost all beliefs. Mainly with the concept of heaven and hell. (I've depressed many a friend by explaining why heaven CANT exist).

All I can really see in the future is the apocalypse. Not a biblical or zombie one but a true changing of the way humanity functions. Likely this will be due to war, or running out of resources....leading to war and the death of billions. After this humanity will either struggle to exist, reverting to an age before oil, etc. with no hope of advancing. Or a huge leap forward resulting in its ascendance into space.

Either way I cannot see current society, ideals or religion playing a role in humanities distant future.

I'm 20 years old and have learned to accept this world for what it is. Fucked! It gets easier.
 

Astoria

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I realised years ago that there's no point to life so I say screw what society thinks is right, just do what is right by you and live it to the full.
 

Sehnsucht Engel

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Astoria said:
I realised years ago that there's no point to life so I say screw what society thinks is right, just do what is right by you and live it to the full.
Yeah, I agree with this. Life is meaningless, make your own meaning with your life.

Personally, I think this song best descibes it.
 

That_Swedish_Guy

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Whew, that was a bit to get through. It was no-where near as bad as you said it was though.

Personally, I think you're missing the point a little bit. Yes we do work for most of our lives to make "some rich fucker richer" but that hasn't really got much to do with the rest of life. Life is about fulfillment, in my opinion. The idea that your life has value, and that you've done something worth doing. This could be as little as helping out as a communitiy service worker, or as large as creating a new, life-saving technology. It could also mean finding someone you truely love, and living your life with them, making them happy as well as yourself.

Now, you mentioned that we are just a misteak, and that of the billions of planets out there we had just the right atmosphere and surface temperature and chemical makeup and a thousand other things, but think of all things that went right for us. We where not wiped out by the numerous cataclysms that befell the Earth over 500 million years. We evolved enough to become sentient and ponder the very meaning of life. So yes, by the standards of the animal kingdom we are made to hunt, find shelter and reproduce. But we are so much more than that.

We are human.

We can do things differently to the rest of the animals in the world. The world can be an absolute shit place to be, especially for those who are not as fortunate as us, but it can be a beautifull place, all through life. No matter where you are, there is always something you can appreciate.

Here's some songs to cheer you up:




EDIT: Oh bugger, got ninja'd while typing that slab of text...
 

Frotality

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this is what the idiots i live with never seem to get; the meaning of life isnt the ultimate question, its the easiest one in the world. life existed before humans and therefore before the concept of meaning, so life has whatever bloody meaning you want it to have; we didnt make it, so we cant exactly ascribe higher purpose to something that never had a purpose to begin with.

but...fuck teenage years. worst time of my life, and thats saying alot. now that im an adult and have alot less...well slightly less massive idiot teenagers surrounding me and am more reliant on myself than anyone else, im much more free to live life how i want.

oddly enough, men in black offers one of the most accurate critiques of human society: a 'person' is smart; 'people' are dumb, panicky, and you know it. society is basically there to keep everyone from murdering and raping each other, and it often fails at that anyway; you cant hope to live a full life by just following what society tells you is good, you have to find that yourself. civilization will continue its bullshit until the earth can no longer support it, so the best you can do is try to ignore it and do whatever you like... hopefully without murdering or raping someone.

life aint a cloudy afterlife of eternal happiness, but it aint a lake of fire either, so take what you can get.
 

Tsaba

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Why is this so hard, I mean Arnold figured this out why can't you.
 

standokan

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I think that the meaning of life is like Minecraft, spend your whole time building something which'll eventually get blown away by green penises
 

BrightBlackDaylight

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Sadly, the society we live in now is so different from our natural primal state (that of the tribal hunter gatherer) that these questions do come up. Our lives are at once so much more complicated and so much easier than they are supposed to be - we don't have to spend pretty much all of our time trying to stay alive any more, but we have to deal with more information each day than most of our ancestors would have come across in a lifetime, and we're expected to cope with that. The media promises us ideals that we will never achieve (e.g. everyone wants to be 'famous' or make a difference) whereas actually our societies nowadays are far to big for any one person to make that much of an impact. All this tends to leave us feeling out of control, and that life is pointless.

The only mainstream religion today I can think of that addresses this problem in any satisfactory way is Buddhism, and even that has some problems. But ultimately the religion question is down to you.

As for the not fitting in thing, I was the same. So many people, even now in college that I meet every day are so fucking mindless that it drives me up the wall. But what I find incredibly naive is when people use that as an excuse to say, oh look at humanity, aren't we just useless/terrible/stupid/cruel etc etc. That seems to me a really immature viewpoint. Things are never that black and white. People can be stupid and mindless and cruel and greedy. People can also be kind, co-operative, insightful and truly wonderful. Not to mention, very very funny. You can't have the good without the bad and anyone who can only see one of those really needs to grow up.

As for the meaning of life - sorry, there isn't one. We are, essentially, just cosmic accidents. We are animals. We were born and we will die and within a few generations it is fairly probable that no-one will remember us. In a thousand years it is almost certain that no-one will remember us. In a way, as you said, I think that is part of what actually makes life beautiful. In the end, everyone intelligent struggles with this dilemma. You just have to work through it yourself, and don't let it get you down.

Also, watch these two videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ