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Denmark (Another ex-viking country) almost got the same system as Norway, exept you only got a small chance to get picked, and you only have to endure a basic 6 month millitary training-program.
There is no chance of getting shipped to war, as that is the privilege of the volunteers.
Only way for a non volunteer to get dragged into war, is if Denmark is invaded.
There is no chance of getting shipped to war, as that is the privilege of the volunteers.
Only way for a non volunteer to get dragged into war, is if Denmark is invaded.
No forced consription in the UK, but there should be, at the moment we have likely the worst behaved youths in the entire western world, and thanks to the nanny state, parents can't even discipline their own kids so we may as well let the army do it. I wouldn't mind doing it for a year, you could learn some skills, meet new people (possibly end up killing them) and see the world, it'd be a good experience.
In Denmark, the military service is 3 months, if you are fit for it and are one of the first ~8000 that are examined.
I hope I don't have to waste three months like that >.<
I hope I don't have to waste three months like that >.<
In America it's either for heritage or economic disadvantage.
Due to recent economic troubles, many of current recruits are from lower income families, and didn't go to University. They can't find jobs anywhere else.
Other people do it, because their family line is nothing but soldiers and theyve been raised to think it's their destiny or something.
One major demographic shift in the armed services of the US, are the changing target audience of PMC (Private Military Contractor) firms. Before Iraq, and the rise of Blackwater, your typical mercenary was either an ex military man, or an adventure seeking nutter. Old guard mercs that you heard about in Soldier of Fortune magazine.
Nowadays, Blackwater (Xi) uses a brilliant strategy of appealing to patriotism and other such ideals in order to persuade people to sign up. Were seeing a big upswing in the number of recruits that had previously been backwoods militiamen, and other such people.
Due to recent economic troubles, many of current recruits are from lower income families, and didn't go to University. They can't find jobs anywhere else.
Other people do it, because their family line is nothing but soldiers and theyve been raised to think it's their destiny or something.
One major demographic shift in the armed services of the US, are the changing target audience of PMC (Private Military Contractor) firms. Before Iraq, and the rise of Blackwater, your typical mercenary was either an ex military man, or an adventure seeking nutter. Old guard mercs that you heard about in Soldier of Fortune magazine.
Nowadays, Blackwater (Xi) uses a brilliant strategy of appealing to patriotism and other such ideals in order to persuade people to sign up. Were seeing a big upswing in the number of recruits that had previously been backwoods militiamen, and other such people.
We Finns don't have to go to the army when we're eighteen (we don't HAVE to go there at all). We can go there later, we just have to go there when we are 18-25 (if we go). Then there's the... Well, I don't know what it is in english, but we can get a job somewhere and do that, but it kinda sucks now because it's usually always quite longer than the army.Rhayn said:
Then there's always total objection (is this the right term?), but in Finland it sucks hard, because Finland is one of the few countries where if you don't go to army or the work thing, you are sent to jail. That sucks hard.
Here is the U.S. we have the draft, but it was only used in Vietnam and was not popular to say the least. All male citizens at 18 are to register for selective service (ie the draft). Most can get away without doing it for a long time if they do not take federal funds to goto college. Stupid draft card...
I know a lot of Asian countries have compulsorary service like N. Korea, can't remember if china does, Taiwan/Formosa does(though not a country as its recognized as part of china by all but 7 countries). I want to say Vietnam does, Japan had a movement to amend their consitution to allow an army, but it failed hard. I'm not sure about South Korea. India and Pakistan have voluntary service. Afganistan is voluntary, Indonesia is voluntary, Iran is compulsorary, Iraq is now voluntary, Israel is compulsorary, Egypt is too if I recall, Turkey is as well. Overall, its not uncommon for developing and developed countries to have a draft/compulsorary armed services.
I know a lot of Asian countries have compulsorary service like N. Korea, can't remember if china does, Taiwan/Formosa does(though not a country as its recognized as part of china by all but 7 countries). I want to say Vietnam does, Japan had a movement to amend their consitution to allow an army, but it failed hard. I'm not sure about South Korea. India and Pakistan have voluntary service. Afganistan is voluntary, Indonesia is voluntary, Iran is compulsorary, Iraq is now voluntary, Israel is compulsorary, Egypt is too if I recall, Turkey is as well. Overall, its not uncommon for developing and developed countries to have a draft/compulsorary armed services.
Dunno about me (Bosnia and Herzegovina), but I've heard that in the Netherlands you either serve as a real soldier or a civilian defender. The 1st is just a normal soldier, but the second is a type of serving where you get military training but never go into war. You get a rifle and your job is to defend your home in case of an invasion.
Was in the Norwegian Air Force for about 7-8 months but got discharged because of serious allergies. They could not risk having me out in the field in case I ate something I was allergic to. would die.
But I would not hesitate a second to go back in if I got the chance. While in the service its a bit like hell on earth but when looking back on it its frikin amazing
But I would not hesitate a second to go back in if I got the chance. While in the service its a bit like hell on earth but when looking back on it its frikin amazing
we here in MX we have Military Service, wich is just us working out in the mornings, piking up trash and helping the community and marching in events for about 1 year
but i resently heard that if you decide to go and help the real military, they send you to burn crop fields of drug lords, then you only do 4 months time and full pay
yeah... weird huh?
but i resently heard that if you decide to go and help the real military, they send you to burn crop fields of drug lords, then you only do 4 months time and full pay
yeah... weird huh?
SadakoMoose said:
Your word choices (UK English) tell me you're speaking about the American military from an outside perspective. I therefore take great pleasure in telling you that you're stunningly wrong. There are all kinds of reasons people volunteer for military service. I have a buddy for instance who is a full-on bromosapien. He just wants to hit the gym and waterski and skydive and do all that life-affirming stuff. The Air Force was a job where he'd spend his time surrounded by a much higher proportion of like-minded young men than he would have in the corporate world. He'll also retire with full pension at age 38, still young enough to pick up a second career with his aviation experience.SadakoMoose said:
Sadly though, this almost never happens!. If we were to use a carpet bombing strategy against the enemy, the most likely and common outcome will be the enemy using the massive civilian casualties and infrastructure loss (that inevitably happens with carpet bombing) as a cause to recruit more for their side and cause.jasoncyrus said:
Whenever one party uses a "shock and awe" approach the other will instantly counter with a "rally against oppression" approach. Sure carpet bombing will demoralize some, but that will quickly turn to defiance when leaders rally the victims, their families and survivors under a cause.
The modern battlefield is more about the propaganda element than it has ever been. If we take innocent lives in our campaign then the enemy will use that mistake to incite fear among their troops and command others to join their cause.
We won't be scaring them for long. They will just fight back harder and in greater numbers, led by fanatical crazy people.
This is why we don't carpet bomb things anymore. Every unnecessary death we make gives them a reason to double their ranks and that is not something we want to do in a war.
Your scenario of having the population turn on the oppressors is *optimistic* at best. In reality they may want to, but the enemy leaders know this, so they spin a different tale real fast before descent could spread. This is why there are some wars still been fought even though and end to hostilities has been declared.
I've been conscripted. But I could have probably avoided it if I wanted to. Here in Sweden the conscription is so lax that we almost have a volunteer army. All my friends who didn't want to serve didn't have to. They just told one of the guys at the conscription office that they didn't want to do military service and then the military let them go. Those who actually become drafted against their will are usually those who tried to do their best during the strenght and intelligance tests and actually are very intelligent and/or physically fit.