The "Screaming Children on Mics" Argument

[No_Remainders]

So. We've all heard this before, the console fan-bases are shit because most of the people who play them are children who swear and shout inanely into their mics.

Ok, what does this have to do with anything? Yeah, sure, they're annoying, but there are mute buttons.

I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.

Seriously, learn what a mute button is and how it works.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

 

[TheShogun]

Most of the people who play consoles are not children who just swear and shout, they're just more vocal than everyone else. Also, like you said, I just mute them anyway.

 

[TheShogun]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

 

[nexekho]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

Because they're kids?

 

[Xannieros]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

If you had to listen to them I'm sure you'd complain about how much you have to mute.

 

[TheShogun]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

Because they're kids?

You can throw out the argument of age ratings, but in many countries selling games to people under the recommended age is allowed.

 

[WanderingBiscuits]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

He isn't saying they have any less right to play than him. He's saying the game suffers because of the annoying kids he hears over the mics. Of course they have the right to play , but it doesn't diminish the fact that they can be annoying and ruin the game for others.

COD is notorious for this kind of thing and thats why i'm not a fan either.

 

[Lullabye]

So. We've all heard this before, the console fan-bases are shit because most of the people who play them are children who swear and shout inanely into their mics.

Ok, what does this have to do with anything? Yeah, sure, they're annoying, but there are mute buttons.

I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.

Seriously, learn what a mute button is and how it works.

its not about how a game plays, its about you getting a good experience from playing the game. as in most things SCREAMING CHILDREN RUIN THAT EXPERIENCE!
[sub]did you read that as me yelling? u mad now?[/sub]

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

I'm not saying they don't have a right, I'm saying they shouldn't be acting like complete arseholes just because their mother is in another room. Also, my main point in that post is to point out that it's perfectly legitimate to evaluate a game based on its player-base, hence the TF2 comparison.

He isn't saying they have any less right to play than him. He's saying the game suffers because of the annoying kids he hears over the mics. Of course they have the right to play , but it doesn't diminish the fact that they can be annoying and ruin the game for others.

COD is notorious for this kind of thing and thats why i'm not a fan either.

Thank you for actually reading my post.

 

[putowtin]

So. We've all heard this before, the console fan-bases are shit because most of the people who play them are children who swear and shout inanely into their mics.

Ok, what does this have to do with anything? Yeah, sure, they're annoying, but there are mute buttons.

I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.

Seriously, learn what a mute button is and how it works.

my argument is why are kids (and I mean kids) playing games like COD in the first place, it's an 18 rated game and yet I've seen parents buying it for their kids, one asked me if I thought it suitable for his 10 year old son!

 

[Xannieros]

You should use a microphone responsibly. You don't just go screaming into some random persons ear would you?

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

So. We've all heard this before, the console fan-bases are shit because most of the people who play them are children who swear and shout inanely into their mics.

Ok, what does this have to do with anything? Yeah, sure, they're annoying, but there are mute buttons.

I just read a reason why (apparently) Black Ops was bad as being "screaming children and campers galore". This makes no sense. Sure, campers can be annoying, but screaming children do not affect the game or how it plays.

Seriously, learn what a mute button is and how it works.

my argument is why are kids (and I mean kids) playing games like COD in the first place, it's an 18 rated game and yet I've seen parents buying it for their kids, one asked me if I thought it suitable for his 10 year old son!

This is a different discussion, and one that I would side with the kids/parents. Only the child's parents know if their child is mature enough to play said game. If they believe that their, for example, 12 year old son is intelligent to distinguish between fact and faction, that's their decision.

The problem comes in when parents don't take an interest in their child's hobby. I've been lucky, what with having gamers as parents, but some people just don't know or care.

 

[TheShogun]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

I'm not saying they don't have a right, I'm saying they shouldn't be acting like complete arseholes just because their mother is in another room. Also, my main point in that post is to point out that it's perfectly legitimate to evaluate a game based on its player-base, hence the TF2 comparison.

He isn't saying they have any less right to play than him. He's saying the game suffers because of the annoying kids he hears over the mics. Of course they have the right to play , but it doesn't diminish the fact that they can be annoying and ruin the game for others.

COD is notorious for this kind of thing and thats why i'm not a fan either.

Thank you for actually reading my post.

Sorry, just when you said that you shouldn't have to mute them. I thought you were implying that they shouldn't be allowed to play.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

It's called the age rating.
On your way! You've been dealt with.

My brother is like those screaming kids, he just doesn't use a mic.
But when he plays COD, i want to murder him.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

That's the thing. I shouldn't have to mute anyone. Let's just put a couple of games side-by-side here. When I play TF2 I never mute anyone, everyone is polite (as far as gamers go), funny and interesting to talk to. When I play COD on the other-hand, I routinely have mute-all on purely because I don't want to deal with the immature bullshit that comes out of those kid's mouths. I shouldn't have to deal with that shit, and yet there seems to be a huge concentration of those sorts of people in that player-base.

Why should they have less right to play COD than you?

I'm not saying they don't have a right, I'm saying they shouldn't be acting like complete arseholes just because their mother is in another room. Also, my main point in that post is to point out that it's perfectly legitimate to evaluate a game based on its player-base, hence the TF2 comparison.

He isn't saying they have any less right to play than him. He's saying the game suffers because of the annoying kids he hears over the mics. Of course they have the right to play , but it doesn't diminish the fact that they can be annoying and ruin the game for others.

COD is notorious for this kind of thing and thats why i'm not a fan either.

Thank you for actually reading my post.

Sorry, just when you said that you shouldn't have to mute them. I thought you were implying that they shouldn't be allowed to play.

No problem, just keep your eye out, buddy.

 

[veloper]

Even if you do mute them, that doesn't make them any better to play with.

 

[Wuggy]

Also, my main point in that post is to point out that it's perfectly legitimate to evaluate a game based on its player-base

This is basically my response to the OP. Just because they provide you with a mute button, does not mean that your experience isn't lessened by the fact that they're there. I much rather have an experience with mature and contained individuals without needing to resort to automatically muting everyone and then playing practically single player with bots who sometimes throw three-letter insults at you on the chat.

In TF2 I've actually made friends when I've come to a random server. In COD when I've come to a random server I'm greeted by individuals who make want to step in front of a speeding truck filled with AIDS.

 

[FalloutJack]

The obvious thing to state here is that while the screaming children happen, they're not the sum total of gamers. You know it and I know it.