The Tolkien Estate is going to release a new book for 2017: The Tale of Beren and Luthien.

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Beren_and_L%C3%BAthien

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/22/lord-of-the-rings-spinoff-beren-and-luthien-to-be-published-in-2017

Book Cover Art:

Funny the commenters in IGN are thinking this is a movie and not a book.

Anyway, Beren and Luthien eh? I have heard much of this story, heck I am almost reaching that part of it in the Silmarillion. To anyone who are aware of it, how does it fare as a romance story?

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Is this not just a reprint of the same story contained within The Silmarillion?

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Silmarillion, eh? I haven't gotten around to finishing it.

 

[Fox12]

Is this not just a reprint of the same story contained within The Silmarillion?

I doubt it. Tolkien had multiple versions of any one story from the Silmarillion. Several books have been released in book format with more detail.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Beren_and_L%C3%BAthien

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/22/lord-of-the-rings-spinoff-beren-and-luthien-to-be-published-in-2017

Book Cover Art:

Funny the commenters in IGN are thinking this is a movie and not a book.

Anyway, Beren and Luthien eh? I have heard much of this story, heck I am almost reaching that part of it in the Silmarillion. To anyone who are aware of it, how does it fare as a romance story?

It's a pretty good story in the old epic traditions. I liked it. I think it helps if you realize how personal it was. Many of the key scenes in the story were based on Tolkiens interactions with his wife. When she died, luthien was written on her tomb stone. When he died, Beren was written on his.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Is this not just a reprint of the same story contained within The Silmarillion?

I doubt it. Tolkien had multiple versions of any one story from the Silmarillion. Several books have been released in book format with more detail.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Beren_and_L%C3%BAthien

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/22/lord-of-the-rings-spinoff-beren-and-luthien-to-be-published-in-2017

Book Cover Art:

Funny the commenters in IGN are thinking this is a movie and not a book.

Anyway, Beren and Luthien eh? I have heard much of this story, heck I am almost reaching that part of it in the Silmarillion. To anyone who are aware of it, how does it fare as a romance story?

It's a pretty good story in the old epic traditions. I liked it. I think it helps if you realize how personal it was. Many of the key scenes in the story were based on Tolkiens interactions with his wife. When she died, luthien was written on her tomb stone. When he died, Beren was written on his.

You say there are multiple expanded versions of certain Stories from the Silmarillion?

I know there is one about the Children of Hurin.

Is there one about the character of Faenor? the story of the Dunedain of Numenor and its fall? the story of Maeglin and his family? And the one with Fingolfin fighting Morgoth himself?

 

[Fox12]

Is this not just a reprint of the same story contained within The Silmarillion?

I doubt it. Tolkien had multiple versions of any one story from the Silmarillion. Several books have been released in book format with more detail.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Beren_and_L%C3%BAthien

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/22/lord-of-the-rings-spinoff-beren-and-luthien-to-be-published-in-2017

Book Cover Art:

Funny the commenters in IGN are thinking this is a movie and not a book.

Anyway, Beren and Luthien eh? I have heard much of this story, heck I am almost reaching that part of it in the Silmarillion. To anyone who are aware of it, how does it fare as a romance story?

It's a pretty good story in the old epic traditions. I liked it. I think it helps if you realize how personal it was. Many of the key scenes in the story were based on Tolkiens interactions with his wife. When she died, luthien was written on her tomb stone. When he died, Beren was written on his.

You say there are multiple expanded versions of certain Stories from the Silmarillion?

I know there is one about the Children of Hurin.

Is there one about the character of Faenor? the story of the Dunedain of Numenor and its fall? the story of Maeglin and his family? And the one with Fingolfin fighting Morgoth himself?

Tolkien wrote multiple versions of each story before he died. Some of them are in more detail, while others contradict each other. His son edits and releases them. As it stands, there's no real way to know what Christopher Tolkien is keeping from us. Scholars and fans alike are dying to find out. The stories you describe could exist in greater detail, by there's no way of knowing unless they release them.

Christopher Tolkien has released a great deal, though. It's just a great deal of work. He released the book of lost tales, which is kind of a non-canon beta version of middle earth. He's released the children of Huron, and now beaten and luthien. He's even released a collection of children's stories that his father write him, complete with illustrations, called the Father Christmas Stories. Christopher wants to share these stories, but he wants to do it right, I think. He's very protective of his fathers legacy. That's more then I can say for Frank Herbert's son.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Is this not just a reprint of the same story contained within The Silmarillion?

I doubt it. Tolkien had multiple versions of any one story from the Silmarillion. Several books have been released in book format with more detail.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Beren_and_L%C3%BAthien

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/22/lord-of-the-rings-spinoff-beren-and-luthien-to-be-published-in-2017

Book Cover Art:

Funny the commenters in IGN are thinking this is a movie and not a book.

Anyway, Beren and Luthien eh? I have heard much of this story, heck I am almost reaching that part of it in the Silmarillion. To anyone who are aware of it, how does it fare as a romance story?

It's a pretty good story in the old epic traditions. I liked it. I think it helps if you realize how personal it was. Many of the key scenes in the story were based on Tolkiens interactions with his wife. When she died, luthien was written on her tomb stone. When he died, Beren was written on his.

You say there are multiple expanded versions of certain Stories from the Silmarillion?

I know there is one about the Children of Hurin.

Is there one about the character of Faenor? the story of the Dunedain of Numenor and its fall? the story of Maeglin and his family? And the one with Fingolfin fighting Morgoth himself?

Tolkien wrote multiple versions of each story before he died. Some of them are in more detail, while others contradict each other. His son edits and releases them. As it stands, there's no real way to know what Christopher Tolkien is keeping from us. Scholars and fans alike are dying to find out. The stories you describe could exist in greater detail, by there's no way of knowing unless they release them.

Christopher Tolkien has released a great deal, though. It's just a great deal of work. He released the book of lost tales, which is kind of a non-canon beta version of middle earth. He's released the children of Huron, and now beaten and luthien. He's even released a collection of children's stories that his father write him, complete with illustrations, called the Father Christmas Stories. Christopher wants to share these stories, but he wants to do it right, I think. He's very protective of his fathers legacy. That's more then I can say for Frank Herbert's son.

Well now he has to continue that Legacy because he is not gonna last forever, the man is now 91 years old. So there has to be a successor to the Tolkien Estate that is worthy of treating these stories with love and care.

And fitting that Chris' potential last one was the one that his Father was most passionate about, which reminds me I have to read it now, I am on that Chapter in the Silmarillion.

 

[madwarper]

The thing about Beren and Luthien is that it requires SO much backstory, it pretty much IS the Silmarillion.

From the Music of the Ainur, the formation of Arda, the rise of the first born and torture at the hands of Melkor, the subduing of Melkor and the westward journey to Aman, the pardoning of Melkor and the creation of the Silmarils, the destruction of the two trees and the theft of the Silmarils, the eastward chase of Morgoth back to Middle Earth and kinslayings, the Battles of Beleriand and the rise of the second born.

 

[Pseudonym]

I know that story in that I know it's the one that the lord of the rings refers to several times. I haven't read the Silmarilion though. Might be interesting someday.

 

[Hawki]

Well now he has to continue that Legacy because he is not gonna last forever, the man is now 91 years old. So there has to be a successor to the Tolkien Estate that is worthy of treating these stories with love and care.

Um, does there?

Nothing against Christopher Tolkein - most, if not all of the things he's done with the setting is compile/publish his father's notes, so in theory, all of that is designed to fit into the setting. But if we're talking about opening the setting up to writers, well, that could go south very quickly, very fast. I'm partly reminded of the disdain a lot of Dune fans have expressed for Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson doing works in the Dune setting, in what started out as post-humously publishing Frank Herbert's unfinished work, but has since blown out to them effectively appropriating the universe.

I don't doubt that there are writers who'd love to write for the setting, and could even tell good stories within said setting, but I don't feel the need for it to happen per se. The story is done, Tolkein's dead. Let his setting rest.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Is this not just a reprint of the same story contained within The Silmarillion?

I doubt it. Tolkien had multiple versions of any one story from the Silmarillion. Several books have been released in book format with more detail.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Beren_and_L%C3%BAthien

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/22/lord-of-the-rings-spinoff-beren-and-luthien-to-be-published-in-2017

Book Cover Art:

Funny the commenters in IGN are thinking this is a movie and not a book.

Anyway, Beren and Luthien eh? I have heard much of this story, heck I am almost reaching that part of it in the Silmarillion. To anyone who are aware of it, how does it fare as a romance story?

It's a pretty good story in the old epic traditions. I liked it. I think it helps if you realize how personal it was. Many of the key scenes in the story were based on Tolkiens interactions with his wife. When she died, luthien was written on her tomb stone. When he died, Beren was written on his.

Well I read the story from the Silmarillion. And for a love story....it was surprisingly bloody.

Spoiler

But holy shit Huan the Wolf was awesome, I was more impressed by the wolf than the actual 2 lovers, Huan immidietly reminded me of Kimarhi Ronso from Final Fantasy X and I got saddened by his death especially the scene of Beren placing his hand on Huan's head saying farewell

I was dissipointed in the chacarter of Beren though, but mabye the expanded stand alone book would flesh him out more.

 

[Fox12]

Well now he has to continue that Legacy because he is not gonna last forever, the man is now 91 years old. So there has to be a successor to the Tolkien Estate that is worthy of treating these stories with love and care.

Um, does there?

Nothing against Christopher Tolkein - most, if not all of the things he's done with the setting is compile/publish his father's notes, so in theory, all of that is designed to fit into the setting. But if we're talking about opening the setting up to writers, well, that could go south very quickly, very fast. I'm partly reminded of the disdain a lot of Dune fans have expressed for Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson doing works in the Dune setting, in what started out as post-humously publishing Frank Herbert's unfinished work, but has since blown out to them effectively appropriating the universe.

I don't doubt that there are writers who'd love to write for the setting, and could even tell good stories within said setting, but I don't feel the need for it to happen per se. The story is done, Tolkein's dead. Let his setting rest.

Agreed. I don't need to see Tolkien's work turned into generic fantasy world #2817.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Well now he has to continue that Legacy because he is not gonna last forever, the man is now 91 years old. So there has to be a successor to the Tolkien Estate that is worthy of treating these stories with love and care.

Um, does there?

Nothing against Christopher Tolkein - most, if not all of the things he's done with the setting is compile/publish his father's notes, so in theory, all of that is designed to fit into the setting. But if we're talking about opening the setting up to writers, well, that could go south very quickly, very fast. I'm partly reminded of the disdain a lot of Dune fans have expressed for Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson doing works in the Dune setting, in what started out as post-humously publishing Frank Herbert's unfinished work, but has since blown out to them effectively appropriating the universe.

I don't doubt that there are writers who'd love to write for the setting, and could even tell good stories within said setting, but I don't feel the need for it to happen per se. The story is done, Tolkein's dead. Let his setting rest.

Agreed. I don't need to see Tolkien's work turned into generic fantasy world #2817.

What Generic Fantasy World would have Technological savvy Goblins that makes robots and techno cities?

This is Generic Fantasy World #XXXX

Warcraft is anything but generic.