...This is either funny or sad I can't decide.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvQFnSnhg7U

This is a new ad against piracy made with us tax dollars.

It's fucking hilarious and sad at the same time, you should watch it.
 

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I can understand what they're trying to say but really, you buy a counterfeit dvd and someone gets shot? A little ridiculous.
 

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I'm not sure how to properly respond to a video of such a high caliber of stupidity. Pretty much everything in that video is wrong, and I think it's disgusting that the taxpayer's money was used to create such an abomination of blundering deceit.
 

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Just to balance it out, and follow on from that video.....

If I ever feel the need to download a movie i'll go out and kick a puppy to keep the air of horror going.
 

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Unfortunately, this seems to sum up every anti-piracy/bootleg video I've ever seen. Remember when bootleg cd's were the sole reason your kids were doing drugs in school? Yeah, good times.
 

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Hahahahaha, oh thank you for that laugh, I don't know if they did that for a joke, or if they really think that if someone gets an illegal copy of, I don't know, Beavis and Butthead do America, will cause rampant child labor and gang violence, but either way it was funny
 

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That was... maybe slightly over dramatic. And kind of funny. I hope it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, but it probably was.
Do the people that keep making these really think they'll have any effect on anything? I suppose they must, or they'd stop.
 

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Oh my lord. You guys! The British Government and the BBFC have been pulling this shit for years, recently they changed tac and tried this:
http://youtu.be/4TbqBPmInjQ [/youtube]
It ran for about 6 months before it got pulled for being laughable garbage.

Edit: Oh smeg I can't get embedding to work, here's a hyperlink
http://youtu.be/4TbqBPmInjQ
 

manic_depressive13

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What the fuck was that. The only explanation I can come up with is that the man's phrase "only a few dollars" caused the woman to relive a series of repressed, unrelated post-traumatic memories of when she used to work in a sweatshop and deal drugs. This upsets her and causes her to go home and just download the thing herself.
 

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Furioso said:
Hahahahaha, oh thank you for that laugh, I don't know if they did that for a joke, or if they really think that if someone gets an illegal copy of, I don't know, Beavis and Butthead do America, will cause rampant child labor and gang violence, but either way it was funny
I think the child labor part was supposed to be referencing the purchase of counterfeit clothing and such. Not really sure how much truth there is to that, though.

I'm generally on the fence about these things. Constantly comparing the purchase of bootleg movies to crime seems to undermine the concept of actual crime. I'm more sympathetic to the argument that it takes jobs away from the people working in the industry.

I'd say this ad is just a little misguided and vague. And considering the general reaction of the other people commenting, it looks to fail at it's objective.
 

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Funny. It was definitely just funny.

God, yesterday we had the pedobear crisis on the news, and today we've got this. I hope this trend continues... as our species' collective intelligence drops the amount of unintentionally hilarious videos I get to see rises.
 

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...What? That didnt make sense at all. Fail to see how gang violence and child labour are connected to some fat Russian guy sitting on his ass, pirating movies, driving to a local market and then flogging the DvD's for next to nothing. But if the add says its connected to these things i guess i have no choice but to believe you, because im an idiot who cant think for myself.
Who in their right mind buys pirated DvD's any more anyway? Anyone involved in 'piracy' just downloads their own shit for free anyway. This add isnt even targeting an existing audience. Its just US tax money being thrown into a furnace with cameras pointed at it. (actually an add saying 'this is what happens to the movie industry when you illegally pirate movies' would have been more effective and less depressing).
This add is sad, beyond sad really. Sad to a point where it is actually pretty funny. So the answer to you question is both. Its funny cause its so sad.
 

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Pff, I hear in a few years pirates will be able to just use the internet and not have to pay anything to anyone! Now that's crazy.
 

Megawat22

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My God, how could I have been so blind...
Buying counterfeit DVDs from fat Russians on the street not only causes gang violence but was the sole reason the nuke was dropped on Hiroshima and Hitler himself was once quoted as saying "I totally buy counterfeit DVDs all the time, it's the reason I have so much money to buy gas! Thanks fat Russian DVD salesmen!".
I guess I better just download them for free online and save myself the hassle of going out and spending money. Oh, and the holocaust thingy to.

In all seriousness though, it's a silly advert. But these types of adverts are always pretty bad.
 

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I can understand what they're trying to say but really, you buy a counterfeit dvd and someone gets shot? A little ridiculous.
Actually yes, which is why it's informational.

A lot of these knock off goods are produced by countries like China and various third world nations. They violate copyrights and patents, produce their wares in sweatshops, and then ship them off to wealthy nations where they undercut the prices of the actual creators. This causes people from the companies who developed the products to lose money and lay people off, supports the sweatshops, and other thigs.

When it comes to the violence aspects of things, understand that these countefeit goods are illegal and also worth a lot of money cumulatively. This means a lot of the smuggling and distribution is handled by various levels of organized crime. Despite what you see on TV gang fights happen over things other than the flashier crimes like drugs, prostitution, and illegal gambling. One gang might claim a specific flea market as their dumping ground for counterfeits (ever notice how at a lot of these things everyone seems to have the same goods? Also notice how many people selling the knockoffs are minorities, specifically asians and latinos which are also the people from the nations running the sweatshops and such, these guys are doing business so many of them don't look crooked, but that's part of the point. You might have the mother, grandmother, sister, or girlfriend of a ganger pushing this stuff, and notice at flea markets outside sports stadiums and such your literally buying out of the back of a van despite them having a table set up). 4 pairs of jeans for $20? Sure they have labels you recognize, but that happy seeming guy selling them to you probably has them smuggled in from south american sweatshops).

This also supports human trafficking, after all setting up a sweat shop in the US helps reduce the risks involved in smuggling and of course the costs of transport and distribution. So they take illegal immigrants being smuggled into the US, chain them up in a warehouse (or force them into indentured servitude of one sort or another) and force them to produce clothing and such.

Overall the DVDs themselves might be relatively painless (being cracked and burned) compared to other things, but it's all pushed by the same basic people, and supporting these groups, hence why they spin it from something trivial into a big deal to show what your dealing with overall. That money your paying goes directly into the pockets of what else these guys are doing.

Also understand that organized crime, whether it's on the mafia (or Triad, or Yakuza, or whomever) or street gang level doesn't just have it's fingers into one thing. The same basic organization that pushes the counterfeit goods probably ALSO runs drugs, prostitution, extortion, and other things.

It can be painful to see, because a lot of people don't think in terms of the big picture, the video could have been put together better (it doesn't explain the connections well enough even if they are there), but it's accurate.


Understand also this is about counterfeit goods, not piracy, that's something else and a seperate crusade. It's not addressed at things like "The Pirate's Bay" or whatever, there are whole seperate cases/suits/videos/etc... about that kind of stuff and why it's a problem.

.. and as a closing note (and not to repete myself again) understand that things are coming to a head with China's robber economy, especially given the current economic state of the US and what's happened to it's credit, and the way China is building up it's military and becoming increasingly belligerant. China is the biggest offender in knocking off goods and then selling them in the markets they are robbing. All this stuff with the loans they gave us and what not have been diplomatic dancing games to avoid this issue from coming to a head (I've written entire mini-essays on the subject here on these forums, you can probably find them in the archives probably, but if not I'm sure I'll break it down again eventually). Right now the US goverment is funding this kind of thing to try and raise awareness and hopefully limit the amount of money leaving the country and going to China (and a few other nations). After all China basically sells the stuff to "import/export companies" who are actually smugglers, and then those criminals bring the goods into first world nations to sell.... and that's before you get into some of the more direct connections between the Chinese goverment and organized crime... especially through it's intel services, which is again another entire arguement. If you followed the whole thing with Al Gore's presidential bid you might have heard a point towards the end (which was glossed over because he lost, even if I think it hurt him at the end) with him receiving money directly from China that was being fronted through Buddhist temples and donated, with those temples themselves being triad fronts (ie if I remember the bust showed that the Chinese goverment had their dirty tricks people give the money to the Triad, who used the temples as a front to donate it to Gore in exchange for future favors).... in short the US is finally entering into an economic/financial war we've been neglecting, and this is a beginning of a propaganda campaign that hasn't found the right groove yet (and honestly, despite the negative association, not all propaganda is nessicarly bad, there are some good reasons for this as I've explained).
 

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... I don't think that's how piracy works, or any of the other things work for that matter. I don't know if they've noticed but most piracy is done over the internet.
 

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I don't see anything wrong with it. Commercial piracy is a real problem. I you look at third world countries, the only way to buy DVDs and games is the pirated way, you can't counter those prices. One thing is to download a game or movie off the net for your own amusement, another thing is to gain commercially on it by selling to others. And this is what this ad is about, not your everyday pirate who gets his daily fix from piratebay, but the big industry that is winning on piracy.
Also "tax dollars" as argument is weak, if everyone had their way with tax dollars, it would all be spent on free ice cream (not for everyone though, as nobody wants to share it, everyone just wants the goods, but not pay the TAX DOLLARZ that get spent on anything they don't like)

EDIT:You should read Therumancer's post. Even if it's long, it sums up why this ad is important. This is not about your torrent downloads, this is about the bigger picture.