Those who choose to purposely spoil an up and coming IP. Why do it?

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Parasondox

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The hype for Star Wars is real. I am still waiting for my Starship Troopers and Stargate trilogy. One can dream. CAN DREAM!!

Any way, hello, I'm an internet user. I like to browse the web. Gather up new information. Research new things. Go incognito and "study" adult sites and just have an all round good time with the... oh wait, I've just been called a "white country boy albino ******", that's nice? Dumbass.

What is hard to avoid over the internet is too much information. Spoilers. No matter where you go, if not highlighted as *Spoiler Warning!*, some asshole will spoil something for you because they are either cunts or just hated the movie and wanted to be a massive prick.

Seriously though, why do it? Why ruin something for someone who has been waiting a long time for something they enjoy to come out and they can connect with and enjoy? Why?

One note I will make. Those who are deeply invested in the new Star Wars film, stay away from Comic book movie sites because there will be spoilers but users of the sites.
 

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Parasondox said:
I am still waiting for my Starship Troopers and Stargate trilogy
Starship Troopers already [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(film)] got [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_2:_Hero_of_the_Federation] a trilogy [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_3:_Marauder]. Not sure why you'd be waiting for a Stargate trilogy, the only one lined up for it is a hack director who's like George Lucas on steroids: comes up with a great spark of an idea that others can use to make amazing work, but can't make anything good himself.

Seriously though, why do it? Why ruin something for someone who has been waiting a long time for something they enjoy to come out and they can connect with and enjoy? Why?
Because it's fun, because it's entertaining, and because it's only in the past 10 years people have become spineless about it. Go back to before 2005 and no one would give a shit if you spoiled a movie or show because there's only like 3 outcomes it was going to have anyway and everyone was aware of that. Today, for some reason, even works that are older then the people discussing it can't be talked about without such warnings. I'm sorry folks, but it was his sled, if something is more then a few months past release it's the fault of the one being spoiled not the one doing the spoiling.
 

ItouKaiji

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Because people want to talk about shit and if there are exciting twists then they want to discuss those the most. Yeah, it's cuntish behavior to spoil something that's just coming out, but if it's been out for a reasonable amount of time then it's fair game. If you haven't seen The Wire by now then it's not my fault if you didn't know about the Stringer, McNulty, Omar three way. It was almost as shocking as the reveal that Yoda was Luke's father.
 

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Zontar said:
Parasondox said:
I am still waiting for my Starship Troopers and Stargate trilogy
Starship Troopers already [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(film)] got [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_2:_Hero_of_the_Federation] a trilogy [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_3:_Marauder]. Not sure why you'd be waiting for a Stargate trilogy, the only one lined up for it is a hack director who's like George Lucas on steroids: comes up with a great spark of an idea that others can use to make amazing work, but can't make anything good himself.
And I said one can dream... as I slowly walk to the corner of the room and crying because I know the Stargate Trilogy will not be good. BASTARD!!

And I will act like a die hard Star Wars fan here and say, those Starship Troopers second and third film does not exist to me. I sound like an arse lol
 

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I totes magotes agree.

Sometimes I like to butt in on stranger's conversations, and it really bothers me when they're discussing friends or events where I have no context. I yell at them to step back and give me the background details so I can fully appreciate the exchange too, but they rarely oblige. I'm like, zOMG, get with the program. It's 2015!

Sometimes they discuss movies without shouting spoiler warning while doing jazz hands (the international symbol for both trigger and spoiler warnings). When that happens I storm off angrily and write a letter to my local congressman about insensitivity and the need to police stuff I don't want to hear.

Sometimes people tell me I'm too sensitive, but I know they're wrong. I don't have an irrational sense of entitlement. Right?
 

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Parasondox said:
Any way, hello, I'm an internet user. I like to browse the web. Gather up new information. Research new things. Go incognito and "study" adult sites and just have an all round good time with the... oh wait, I've just been called a "white country boy albino ******", that's nice? Dumbass.

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Seriously though, why do it? Why ruin something for someone who has been waiting a long time for something they enjoy to come out and they can connect with and enjoy? Why?
Why call someone a "white country boy albino ******"? Why deface a public phone? Some people are just tossers.
 

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Easy enough


There are some people whom I am convinced just can't get any kind of satisfaction in life unless it is robbing someone else of theirs. It's like...they can't make their own happiness so they siphon off others like some kind of happiness parasite.

If you accidentally spoil something, fair enough, I can forgive that. You get excited and caught up in the moment talking with someone about the latest episode of Game of Thrones but you forget that the person you're talking to is still a season behind; it happens.

People who go out of their way to spoil something will have a very warm spot saved for them in hell next to the people who talk in movie theaters.
 

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ItouKaiji said:
If you haven't seen The Wire by now then it's not my fault if you didn't know about the Stringer, McNulty, Omar three way.
Yeah that sure came out of left field, didn't it? Really turned the show on its ear.
 

Neverhoodian

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Yeah, what jerks...

*Glares meaningfully at a certain recent Escapist news title*

Zontar said:
Because it's fun, because it's entertaining, and because it's only in the past 10 years people have become spineless about it. Go back to before 2005 and no one would give a shit if you spoiled a movie or show because there's only like 3 outcomes it was going to have anyway and everyone was aware of that. Today, for some reason, even works that are older then the people discussing it can't be talked about without such warnings. I'm sorry folks, but it was his sled, if something is more then a few months past release it's the fault of the one being spoiled not the one doing the spoiling.
Maybe it's different where you're from, but that's always been the case where I live. My dad went into a frothing rage when a radio DJ spoiled the "big reveal" for ESB back in 1980 (or at least that's what he claims; I wasn't born yet).

Thing is, it was easier to avoid spoilers before 2005. Yes the internet was around, which did make things difficult, but the landscape was radically different from now, with Youtube, smartphones and social media providing ample opportunities for instant spoilers, whether you want to see it or not.

Also, not everyone runs out and sees the latest movie right away. With the veritable avalanche of entertainment out there it's very easy to miss something, even if you wanted to see it. I would recommend extending that cutoff date substantially...like, a few decades.

Really, the solution is absurdly simple. Just preface a conversation with "do you mind talking about spoilers?" or add a "
" tag if you're online. It's common courtesy.
 

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ItouKaiji said:
Because people want to talk about shit and if there are exciting twists then they want to discuss those the most.
And there's an easy way to do that without giving anything away. I agree with your time thing, but there were people announcing the end of the Half-Blood Prince the night it came out. Not to discuss, to spoil. And that's not just kind of dickish, it's solely dickish.

I mean, thanks to the internet, I know that Kylo Ren is a clone of the Architect, raised by Chozo on what turns out to be a future Earth. Now how am I supposed to enjoy his death scene, especially now that I know he comes back in Episode VIII after winning a podrace against the Grim Reaper?
 

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Zontar said:
Parasondox said:
I am still waiting for my Starship Troopers and Stargate trilogy
Starship Troopers already [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(film)] got [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_2:_Hero_of_the_Federation] a trilogy [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_3:_Marauder]. Not sure why you'd be waiting for a Stargate trilogy, the only one lined up for it is a hack director who's like George Lucas on steroids: comes up with a great spark of an idea that others can use to make amazing work, but can't make anything good himself.

Seriously though, why do it? Why ruin something for someone who has been waiting a long time for something they enjoy to come out and they can connect with and enjoy? Why?
Because it's fun, because it's entertaining, and because it's only in the past 10 years people have become spineless about it. Go back to before 2005 and no one would give a shit if you spoiled a movie or show because there's only like 3 outcomes it was going to have anyway and everyone was aware of that. Today, for some reason, even works that are older then the people discussing it can't be talked about without such warnings. I'm sorry folks, but it was his sled, if something is more then a few months past release it's the fault of the one being spoiled not the one doing the spoiling.
Going to echo neverhoodian here, where the hell did you hang out 10+ years ago that fans weren't totally psychotic about spoilers? I copped an automatic permaban when episode 1 came out for talking about the Darth maul duel and Qui Gon Jin's death. I saw fist fights break out over X-files spoilers in the 90's, and the first time I ever saw someone doxxed was for spoiling a Terry Pratchett book (I think it was a discworld book, but I'm not 100%) in the 90s.

People's attitudes didn't change, geeks and fans have always been hyper sensitive about spoilers. What changed is how easy it is to be spoiled nowadays. In the 80's it was easy to make sure the only thing you saw before launch was whatever you wanted to see, your biggest chance of hearing spoilers was over the radio, and that still only really happened well after the release. Today, it is rare to not be able to know the entire plot of a game or movie well before launch, due to the ease of sharing leaks, any one with a leaked script or review copy can anonymously release the thing to the internet where it will get picked up everywhere else. In the 90's, if you didn't go to a fan site, you would have been unlikely to even be aware if a leak had happened, now a leak will be reposted on every blog, click bait site, and social media platform within a few hours of hitting the web.

Fans have always been hypersensitive, it's just now it's so easy to be spoiled well before release that they have a lot more to freak out about than before.
 

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Seriously though, why do it? Why ruin something for someone who has been waiting a long time for something they enjoy to come out and they can connect with and enjoy? Why?
Some people just want to watch the world burn, Mawster Bruce.
 

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"But, bro... I only did it so that you didn't end up spending money on a crappy-ass sequel of a predictable movie!"

Dicks are like people, yo... They think they're helping humanity, but just like the Overlords, it's all technical and never emotional...
 

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MarsAtlas said:
FPLOON said:
They think they're helping humanity, but just like the Overlords, it's all technical and never emotional...
I was wondering if I was the only person around here watching that.
Well, we can't all be Jennifer now, can we?
 

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Parasondox said:
Seriously though, why do it? Why ruin something for someone who has been waiting a long time for something they enjoy to come out and they can connect with and enjoy? Why?
Because ...
they are either cunts or just hated the movie and wanted to be a massive prick.
 

KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime

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Really there are two types of people who spoil things:

-People who are really excited about the thing in question. It's hard to blame them for spoiling because they're not trying to ruin it for others, they just accidentally do it because they're so excited. People like this don't mean to ruin something for others, they just kind of can't help it.

-People who intentionally ruin things for other's because they're sad misery guts people. These people are the ones it's easy to hate, because what they do isn't accidentally spoil something, they intentionally spoil things to ruin other people's enjoyment of a thing. People who do this tend to do it because they're sad miserable people and the only they can feel good at all is to ruin something for others. Like the group of jerks who are mad about the Star Wars Extended Universe being non-canon, so they're determined to demand it be made canon again, or they're going to ruin the new movie for people who haven't seen it yet. They're miserable so they're gonna drag others down with them because, again they're sad people.

Really if you're upset enough about the EU being non-canon legends now that you're willing ruin the new movie for others... That's a pretty sad deep nerd pit you live in, and that's coming from an ardent Star Wars nerd.(Not referring to anyone in particular here, just the people who want to wage a "jihad" on Star Wars: The Force Awakens with spoilers, because they're bitter the EU was dropped from canon.)