Thread about vampires.

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Actually, come to think of it, my avatar should reveal which Vampires I like. And they can pound any Anne Rice "Oh it's so dull being immortal" bloodsuckers.

 

[Eyclonus]

Twilight pisses me off to no end. Same with the Anita Blake shit.
Having read Bram Stoker's I think my favourite modern interpretation is Vampire: The Masquerade.

I try for Salubri if Storytellers allow it, otherwise Malkavians, or Brujah, actually come to think of it one of favourites that I moulded was an insane Brujah with Obfuscate thinking he was Batman.

 

[Eyclonus]

Actually Anita Blake, Isabella Swan, and at least one scene for every POV character by Anne Rice, are Mary-Sues of the authors. Blake is the most blatant one and Anne Rice is clever at keeping a narrative to it, albeit a very passive slow one. But I just don't get the damned obsession with Twilight.

If I recall correctly didn't Dracula also posses the ability to transform into a wolf?

 

[LewsTherin]

Piff...In MY day, all you needed was a high enough level cleric and you didn't need to worry about vampires and zombies.

Oh, and Stoker FTW

 

[B-lockdown080]

I like the Castlevania idea which is taken from Bram Stoker's Dracula(big suprise) in that there is only one vampire The lord of Darkness: Dracula which a family/clan must slay over the course of a millenia and can only be slayed with the Vampire Killer whip.

Actually Anita Blake, Isabella Swan, and at least one scene for every POV character by Anne Rice, are Mary-Sues of the authors. Blake is the most blatant one and Anne Rice is clever at keeping a narrative to it, albeit a very passive slow one. But I just don't get the damned obsession with Twilight.

If I recall correctly didn't Dracula also posses the ability to transform into a wolf?

Dracula posses the abilities to turn into a wolf, bat, and mist.

 

[Lord Krunk]

Anne Rice > Stephanie Meyer.

But no-one can top Alucard. That guy is awesome squared.

 

[Reaperman Wompa]

I love (real) vampire books and movies. This thread has interested me in Anne Rice and I plan to look up her work so good on Anne Rice fans.

Off topic a bit when I saw this thread I immediately thought of Fright Night. Dunno why.

 

[Not Good]

I thought this thread was going to be about delusional young people who say they "live off of the life force of others" When in reality, they're just drama queens with a name that sounds cool.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

I think it's funny how everyone's jumping on the "Bram Stoker did vampires best" train. If you really look into the book, it's absolutely FILLED with gaping plot holes. Not to mention that it's not written particularly well. Sure, the original Dracula was pretty cool, but the book itself isn't so great.

My votes for best Vampire-related books/films go to Hellsing, Interview with the Vampire, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. Now THOSE were vampires.

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Dio Brando > Every vampire ever.

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[Gitsnik]

Dracula posses the abilities to turn into a wolf, bat, and mist.

I could be misguided and I'm not checking, but doesn't he control the mist but ultimately move within it - yes there is a mist in Mina's room, but she later claims to have thought she saw his face, and the mist on the boat is described something along the lines of "with a shape moving within it".

But yeah, would look like he was mist though I think Stoker was getting at "controlling the elements and the less savoury bests" or however hellsing put it.

 

[Booze Zombie]

I think the best way vampires have been presented was in the video game Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines.

I especially liked how they explained that the mental power of belief is what drives vampires away, not "holy spirits" or silver crosses and bibles. There's even a comical mention of a banker with such great belief in the power of money that his credit card drove a vampire away.

 

[Saskwach]

The Anne Rice vampire and its progeny always bothered me in a way I couldn't put my finger on. Now I know: they're like someone eating chocolate syrup on chocolate sauce on chocolate cake with chocolate chips and then calling themselves "indulgent". They're not indulgent - they're a glutton.

 

[tomdavi]

Anyobody ever read Bram Sotker's Dracula? His ideas and version of vampires are completely different from the ones portrayed in most of the more modern stylised vampire books, and yet Drac. is seen as being the archetypal vampire. He was in fact seen as being a reptilian creature (bats etc never get a real mention to the best of my knowledge), who had the capacity for extreme violence.

What? There's bats at the window all the time feeding on Lucy, the Count flies off towards London at one point (though whether that's in Bat form or not escapes me at the moment). He matches almost exactly most modern views of vampires (before anyone points out that crucifixes don't work, note that Hellsings crucifix - the real hellsing not the crappy one with Frankensteins Monster - was silver so it's entirely possible that a crucifix is a problem)

He also struggled to disguise his desires for blood.

By holding Harker at his house for a full month before feeding? I'm wondering if you didn't just watch the movie - a lot of these things sound like that. Anyway I don't mean to rag.

Going back, before even that to the origins of western vampire myths and most of the time the only "restrictions/ drawbacks" on them, was that they struggled to enter holy buildings, couldn't enter buildings without permission (something now often edited) and, in light they were simply reduced to not being as tough or powerful and having at best sensitive light skin. (btw I'm not some kind of vampire nut, I had to do a project on them in school for english once).

Dracula can't enter buildings without permission, and stays in the night quite often (though again it escapes me whether he can step into the light or not). The fact that you did it for English once probably indicates why your memory is vague. myself, I recently picked up the Leslie & Klinger edition of Stoker's fable, which is an excellent read for all the annotations and notes made.

Edit: Yes dracula is one of my favourites, though I'm a big fan of Lestat and whatsisface in Interview

I'll admit I watched the old film more recently although I have read the book, and fair enough about most of it but, I didn't acutally mean to imply that he could enter buildings without permission, and he is compared to a lizard or snake (I'll admit I'm going off memory) long before bats are mentioned, in the book when he is scaling one of the walls (no pun intended). Aside from that thanks for the corrections.

 

[Xaryn Mar]

Which one(s) of the old myths? There are as many different myths about vampires as there are countries/regions. The classical European (from the area around Transylvania, i.e. Bulgaria and Hungary)?, the nordic ones?, the african ones?, the chineese ones?, or perhaps even the Pennangallan (Indonesian if I remeber correctly)? Vampires are many things and the only common trait as far as I remember is that they need the lifeforce (blood in Europe, chi in china, flesh in other places)of other creatures to live.

EDIT: My favorite though is Vlad Dracul (both the man that inspired Stoker to write his book and the vampire)

 

[tomdavi]

Which ones was I on about? The classical european myths from which most popular modern vampire myths etc have originated.

 

[TwistedEllipses]

This thread really reminds me of the heated debate in 'from dusk till dawn' over silver and its affects on vampires...(which is ended when they realise they don't have any anyway)...XD

 

[NeedAUserName]

Werewolves are better! *Runs away giggling*

*slaps*

NO

Mummies, no one ever remembers the mummies.