tippy2k2 tells you what to think; Independence Day Resurgence

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tippy2k2

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Welcome to Earth!

It's been twenty years since the first Independence Day. If you're like me, you're constantly kept awake at night wondering what happened in the Independence Day world and Hollywood has finally answered the question.

Twenty years has gone by since the aliens first invaded Earth. Our technology has increased exponentially as we integrate alien technology with our Earth technology. Our ships have similar shields like the aliens had, we have a moon base with big lasers, and new guns. The aliens also gave mankind a common enemy so we haven't had war in these twenty years. Then...the aliens return!

We follow a couple of different groups around. We have Dylan Hiller (Jessie T. Usher), the son of Steven Hiller (Will Smith in the first movie) as a hot shot pilot along with Jake Morrison (Liam Hemsworth). We also have David Levinson (Jeff Goldblum) investigating another new alien signal to figure out if the aliens are coming back (Spoiler, they are) and how to fight them.

This time around, there is a ton more action. We have ourselves another giant mothership but unlike the first movie, we have some ground fighting with soldier on soldier combat. While the first film spent a long time with the aliens intentions in the dark (for the characters at least), the characters already know exactly what they're dealing with here and don't pull their punches as they know that what they have showing up is hostile. In general, this action is pretty good and looks pretty good as well as things explode and then more things explode and then for good measure, a couple more things explode.

Unfortunately, the plot is so full of holes that you could fly that giant alien spacecraft through the movie without coming anywhere near the sides. I was only paying so much attention and I saw two major "That doesn't make any freaking sense" moments, with many other tiny "Are you people serious?" moments as the movie gets kind of silly. I'm normally not someone who nitpicks plot holes but good God they are hard to ignore with how blatant they are here.

While the first film had a few funny little quips, this one seems to have amped the quips up a notch. Jake is a smartass who constantly mocks the situation (pretty similar to Will Smith's Steven Hiller in the first movie), David mocks the politicians for focusing on the celebrations and politics more than the possible incoming threat, and just in general, the movie makes more jokes. It doesn't save the movie but it certainly helped.

Overall, it's not a great film but it's not awful either. If you have the ability to shut down your brain and just enjoy the fireworks, the movie does enough right that it can be entertaining. Things explode and people make chuckle-worthy jokes while making things explode. If you're bored and it shows up on TV and the remote is waaaaay over there, you could do worse for a time killer.

7.0/10; It isn't as good as the first one was (though that could just be nostalgia talking here) but if you want to see the world blow up, you could do worse.

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...huh.

To be honest, I can't see myself giving Resurgence anything more than a 6, and I'd more likely drift towards 5. To be honest, I never asked "what happens next?" at the end of the first film. It was my impression that the race as a whole was travelling in the ships, and at the least, the film doesn't hint at any kind of continuation. So, I gave this film a shot, but it drops the ball in a number of ways:

-Bigger isn't always better. I think it says a lot that the first film takes place over three days, while Resurgence takes place over a 24-48 hour period, erring more towards the former. The ship is bigger. The explosions are bigger. The fighter fights have far more lasers. To me, it lost its impact very quickly, kind of like what some people have said about the Star Wars prequels. All this stuff being thrown in screen, it doesn't translate into emotional investment.

-There's far too many characters and way too many arcs. In the first film, the majority of it can be summed up as "David's story," "Hillard's story," and "Whitmoore's story." The #1 and #3 stories converge by the end of the second act, while Hillard converges by the third act. Here...well, there's David doing stuff, the new fighter squadron doing stuff, which has Charlie pursuing "token Asian girl," while Whitmoore is doing his thing, while Julius is doing his thing, while the African warchief bonds with 'nerdy guy,' and Oaken is doing research, and then Julius finds those kids, and gah! As I said, bigger isn't always better, and the plot/character development feels stretched in that it's trying to give all these characters the spotlight, but none of them really gets a chance to shine.

-It's repetitive, and silly, even by ID4 standards. Harvesting the core which will make the planet lose its atmosphere? Check (that's not what the core provides, that's the magnetosphere). Alien sphere who's just so impressed that humans are wicked cool? Check. Alien ship that's big enough to stretch over the Atlantic? Check. The fact that in 20 years humanity still calls them "the aliens?" Check. That the aliens arrive on July 4, 2016, as in, 20 years to the day of their defeat? Check. ID4 was never a particuarly smart film, but this manages to be even dumber.

-The last line of the film is literally "we're going to go into space to kick alien arse." Or something. So, not only do we end with blatant sequel bait, but it isn't even well written sequel bait.

That said, it's not a bad film. I do like the aesthetics and the future tech for instance. It does have some moments of interest, such as politics being a thing that Hiller's son would always be the squadron leader, the comments about war orphans, and Brett Spiner as Oaken was fun, if not 'smart' humour. I also like that we see alien ground forces, showing that thanks to their bio-suits, they completely outclass human soldiers 1 on 1. But, IMO, it's still lacklustre. It's a sequel that doesn't need to exist, setting up a third film that doesn't need to exist, but unlike some sequels, it doesn't sully the original through its existence.
 

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Yeah, I feel like I liked this movie FAR more than I really should have. Maybe I was in a good mood at the time, maybe I just needed a "Shut up brain, you're not allowed to think!" movie, or maybe I just really liked Dr. Brackish Okun (even though I'm 99% sure that they said he died in the first movie...) but I really liked it.

You know, as long as I ignore those giant holes in the movie that bugged the hell out of me...

Seriously, how in the hell did the giant alien ship arrive at the Moon without anyone noticing?!?! General guy even said "How did they get here without us noticing?!?!" so I assumed that they would touch on it at least with some BS "Super Cloaking" or something but they never even bothered with that...

Also, why did the aliens let Jake and company just run around their ship? Did they just assume that we don't have parachutes or something? Bad guys eventually converged on the spot and then....leave? I'm not certain what the hell happened to all those aliens that were wandering around aimlessly looking for the humans running around their ship...