Trailer: Dragon Age 2's Possessed Hero Unleashed in March

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Spears=Awesome

Sword=Awesome

Spear sword= Badass awesome!

Im looking forward to this, if not for gameplay, just for the story, because its a bioware game.

WIsh they would have expanded upon the main charecter's swory from DA:O 1, i liked him.
 

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Therumancer said:
Also the game is not coming out in "just under a year", it's coming out in March of next year that's 7 months, a little over half a year
I'm not sure how I came to "just under a year". Sorry for the mistake.
But I take no issue with what you have said.
 
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Mr Ink 5000 said:
an unexpected yet pleasant response; i think until we get the game none of us can give a final response. to me this reaks of the first DA:O trailer with a single grey warden going into the deep roads; it, gives away nothing.
i think, and this is only my opinion, there is only so much room on a dvd, they're expanding the universe, n they're makin a DA Shepard. if I have a DA:O sized game, with a customazible style Shepard, i'll be happy, i realise others wont be happy but hopefully the graphic improvement will appease them


Well, "Dragon Age: Origins" succeeded with some dated graphics (which were criticized) because of the game play and customization. Those were the aspects of the game that impressed people.

When "Mass Effect 2" came out there was a ton of fan outrage which I think "Bioware" has not been considering over the fact that the game was dumbed down into a shooter compared to the first one. It went over well with a lot of people who were really into shooters, but not so well with the RPG and Action-RPG audience the game was directed at. A lot of those people who had not been following it online and purchused the game on faith due to the first one.

Among a lot of Bioware fans the response was kind of "well, at least we still have Dragon Age", however it seems that Bioware is misunderstanding their success with "Mass Effect 2" to some extent and has been trying to dumb down "Dragon Age" in hopes that this will increase it's sales. Like many companies it seems to be taking the attitude that there is always a lot of negative response, so they should ignore it all and focus only to the people praising them. A very, very, bad move given the quality of a lot of the complaints out there.

Now, we all do expect improved graphics, but those do not justify gutting the RPG gameplay people want from the series. Making your own character being the defining feature of "Dragon Age" compared to a lot of other RPGs that just hand you a predetermined character with very basic customizations. Simply being able to choose a race was a big deal because it's not something you see too often.

Bioware seems to be operating in damage control mode more than any kind of genuine consideration of it's fans, and there have been a LOT of complaints (which you can tell just by their responses). The excuses they have been making are by and large BS, connected to having a full voiceover for the protaganist and such, which anyone who has followed Anime or played "Saint's Row 2" can tell you. A full voiceover does NOT mean your limited to a single voice track/actor for the protaganist.

My big problem is that when the whole "Hawke" thing first came to light Bioware seemed to be sending out feelers to check fan response, they by and large got them bit off, and seem to be going into denial about the entire thing, and doing whatever they wanted to do, which defeated the entire purpose.

People, including Bioware itself, need to realize that games are created for the customers. We need to get the industry out of the attitude that we will buy anything they care to shovel in our direction. The people who are defending "Hawke" and even what they did with "Mass Effect 2" to me seem like the kind of fanboys who will devour anything put in front of them if a big company tells them it's good and pays enough reviewers to reinforce that... and that is exactly why guys like Bobby Kotick feel free to abuse the customers and behave like jerks because they rely on the fact that like a group of junkies we are going to come back for whatever he decides to sell us, and even if we complain that he started cutting our junk with baby powder and rat killer, we're still going to come back when we want a fix because we're addicts. That's kind of what the whole situation here is like, an obviously inferior product using a pre-made stock hero, glossed up with some voice acting, being thrown to the fans in the expectation we'll take it so we can all drool over the next "Bioware" game, because it's the next Bioware game.

Enough rambling, but the bottom line is that the entire thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I think i may have to admit to being a Bioware fanboy, although is that possible, only being on board since KotOR?

speaking of which, DA:O is the only bioware i've played where you can pick race (I think) so maybe thats why the loss of that isn't a big issue for me.

I think maybe the voice acting is a size issue over an actor fee issue (if i got you wrong there n you thought it was a size issue, apologese).
I think size is alot of the issues with this game. maybe they're listening to the wrong fans, its sounds like to you a good game is a good game, regardless of last gen graphics. i'm inclined to think the same.
I hope when a game play trailer comes out, some of your faith is restored n the bad taste goes.

I'll totally agree with you on one thing, if people dont like it, don't buy it.
Voting with you're wallet, its the only way to change any money making industry
 

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Tom Goldman said:
In Hawke's case, he's then able to cast a spell that conjures two giant demon hands to rip his darkspawn enemy in half.
Actually he doesnt conjure demon hands...he does kind of a fire-black-hole magic that sends his arms over his enemy and rips his hands with his own. You can see how his hands dissapear in the fiery flames he casts and how left arm shows up over left shoulder of the enemy and right one over his right shoulder.
 

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From what little I've heard, the new DA does seem to be moving away from the things I thought were cool about the first one, but I think it's way too early to judge for sure.
 

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Azmael Silverlance said:
Tom Goldman said:
In Hawke's case, he's then able to cast a spell that conjures two giant demon hands to rip his darkspawn enemy in half.
Actually he doesnt conjure demon hands...he does kind of a fire-black-hole magic that sends his arms over his enemy and rips his hands with his own. You can see how his hands dissapear in the fiery flames he casts and how left arm shows up over left shoulder of the enemy and right one over his right shoulder.
Actually, the arms are the wrong way round then, he places the right hand which grabs the Qunari's left shoulder and his left hand on it's right shoulder. Plus i think one of his hands doesn't have a glove on it.
 

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Flamezdudes said:
Azmael Silverlance said:
Tom Goldman said:
In Hawke's case, he's then able to cast a spell that conjures two giant demon hands to rip his darkspawn enemy in half.
Actually he doesnt conjure demon hands...he does kind of a fire-black-hole magic that sends his arms over his enemy and rips his hands with his own. You can see how his hands dissapear in the fiery flames he casts and how left arm shows up over left shoulder of the enemy and right one over his right shoulder.
Actually, the arms are the wrong way round then, he places the right hand which grabs the Qunari's left shoulder and his left hand on it's right shoulder. Plus i think one of his hands doesn't have a glove on it.
They are not cuz the way the appear is exactly as if the Hero was behind him. Probably because thats how he was picturing it in his mind or something. Im too lazy to watch it again but i think ur right about the gloves... anyway my point was just that he didnt summon demonic hands. There is difference between cool magic and being possesed :D
 

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The hero looks like an arcane warrior/blood mage, easily one of the best classes in Origins. So I know the bad assery on display is accurate from my experience playing one. Oh so much fun >:)

Well no demon hands but the blood use is there.
 

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here's a possible spoiler thought: the random arms that come out of the sky at the end make me think that Hawke is Morrigan's kid with the power of Urthemiel, that you trapped after having sex with morrigan in the first game. makes sense that he's the most important person in history if he has the power of an old god
 

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cystemic said:
here's a possible spoiler thought: the random arms that come out of the sky at the end make me think that Hawke is Morrigan's kid with the power of Urthemiel, that you trapped after having sex with morrigan in the first game. makes sense that he's the most important person in history if he has the power of an old god
Once again, Hawke is not Morrigan's son. He's a refugee from Lothering which, if you remember was destroyed before Morrigan got pregnant.
 

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Flamezdudes said:
cystemic said:
here's a possible spoiler thought: the random arms that come out of the sky at the end make me think that Hawke is Morrigan's kid with the power of Urthemiel, that you trapped after having sex with morrigan in the first game. makes sense that he's the most important person in history if he has the power of an old god
Once again, Hawke is not Morrigan's son. He's a refugee from Lothering which, if you remember was destroyed before Morrigan got pregnant.
So he claims!

I think he's the demon child who grew up in a matter of months due to his evil superpowers. he then needed a cover story for who he was:

"Oh yeah...you know that town..the one that was destroyed and so no-one can contradict me? Yeah I'm totally from there, but my whole family, like, died. Totally awful, I know!"

Or he could just be a dude using regular old magic, nothing in the trailer was more powerful than your standard blood mage/arcane warrior could have used.
 

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If people were actually clever enough to read up on this game, rather than spurt blind and ignorant hatred. They'd know you can still change class, it's just the actual character set in stone. So you can go back to your spellcasting needs if you want.
 

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Actual said:
Flamezdudes said:
cystemic said:
here's a possible spoiler thought: the random arms that come out of the sky at the end make me think that Hawke is Morrigan's kid with the power of Urthemiel, that you trapped after having sex with morrigan in the first game. makes sense that he's the most important person in history if he has the power of an old god
Once again, Hawke is not Morrigan's son. He's a refugee from Lothering which, if you remember was destroyed before Morrigan got pregnant.
So he claims!

I think he's the demon child who grew up in a matter of months due to his evil superpowers. he then needed a cover story for who he was:

"Oh yeah...you know that town..the one that was destroyed and so no-one can contradict me? Yeah I'm totally from there, but my whole family, like, died. Totally awful, I know!"

Or he could just be a dude using regular old magic, nothing in the trailer was more powerful than your standard blood mage/arcane warrior could have used.
Now you're just making stuff up, Hawke is atleast 20 i think by the time he leaves Lothering and he escapes with his mother, sister and brother. In the trailer when he's having flashback's you can clearly see houses on fire which are similiar to Lothering's.
 

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So wait, Hawke's not Morrigan's child? DAMMIT MORRIGAN YOU SAID I'D GET THE KID ON WEEKENDS/IN A SEQUEL.
 

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Flamezdudes said:
Actual said:
Flamezdudes said:
cystemic said:
here's a possible spoiler thought: the random arms that come out of the sky at the end make me think that Hawke is Morrigan's kid with the power of Urthemiel, that you trapped after having sex with morrigan in the first game. makes sense that he's the most important person in history if he has the power of an old god
Once again, Hawke is not Morrigan's son. He's a refugee from Lothering which, if you remember was destroyed before Morrigan got pregnant.
So he claims!

I think he's the demon child who grew up in a matter of months due to his evil superpowers. he then needed a cover story for who he was:

"Oh yeah...you know that town..the one that was destroyed and so no-one can contradict me? Yeah I'm totally from there, but my whole family, like, died. Totally awful, I know!"

Or he could just be a dude using regular old magic, nothing in the trailer was more powerful than your standard blood mage/arcane warrior could have used.
Now you're just making stuff up, Hawke is atleast 20 i think by the time he leaves Lothering and he escapes with his mother, sister and brother. In the trailer when he's having flashback's you can clearly see houses on fire which are similiar to Lothering's.
Well yeah....

Ummm....so he looks 20, but that's only because of his super growth power. That sounds like having a tumour but it's much better. The flashbacks were 1st person views of him killing his adoptive family because he couldn't control his mutant powers because Morrigan wasn't there to help raise him! Mystery (le gasp)!

He torched some town that could have been Lothering, all medieval villages look much alike.

From the very little concrete information we've been given many possible stories can be made to fit, even ridiculous ones like mine. :)
 

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Dreey said:
the storyteller sounds like a mix between Kreia and Katherine Jainenway

And if thats not Morrigans son im gonna be pissed!
Now that you mention it, that is quite possible. If you look closely at the flashbacks that happen near the end of the fight (before he uses the finisher) you see memories of what looks like Ostagar and the Archdemon from DA:O. Obviously not the Main character's memories unless he was there and saw the Archdemon somehow. So those memories are probably the Player Character's from the previous game which may have somehow gotten transferred to Morrigan's offspring. Maybe through the taint he also gained the memories of the Grey Warden who originally had that taint?
 

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xxcloud417xx said:
Dreey said:
the storyteller sounds like a mix between Kreia and Katherine Jainenway

And if thats not Morrigans son im gonna be pissed!
Now that you mention it, that is quite possible. If you look closely at the flashbacks that happen near the end of the fight (before he uses the finisher) you see memories of what looks like Ostagar and the Archdemon from DA:O. Obviously not the Main character's memories unless he was there and saw the Archdemon somehow. So those memories are probably the Player Character's from the previous game which may have somehow gotten transferred to Morrigan's offspring. Maybe through the taint he also gained the memories of the Grey Warden who originally had that taint?
I don't see Ostagar, and the Dragon is Flemeth. It looks like her dragon form because it's just like a DA2 screenshot i've seen.
 

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I think Bioware want to try out the same thing they did with Mass Effect. Focus on a main character with a name and history so you can give them a voice and a larger variety of customization, but still retain the power to let the protagonist turn they way the player decides. I may actually buy this Dragon Age, as it sure has been a long time since I played a decent medieval RPG that I really liked. Rock on Bioware!