True or False: Any movie made about the Fantastic Four should focus on The Thing as the main.

[DudeistBelieve]

Heres what I'm thinking. If I'm making a FF movie, I want to focus on The Thing.

Why? Cause Thing is the one that gets fucked over.

The other 3 get powers that benefit them, but they're still normal. Thing becomes a monster. He has to live with that every day.

If I'm making the FF movie, and hopefully work out a deal with Marvel to tie into the expanded universe, you focus on that comic where that space entity came down and wanted to fight a series of earths greatest champions.

and after numerous heroes try and fail, you have the Thing hang in there, half because he's strong as fuck but half because he just doesn't give a fuck if he lives or dies. Have him get the shit kicked out of him but just as about the entity is about to destroy the planet he gets up wearily and all Jeff Hardy like he's like...

https://youtu.be/F_ANV_KiB9Q?t=15m8s

"YOU HAVEN'T BROKEN ME! I'm... I'M STILL STANDING!"

and the entity comes down and does that mussled hair bullshit and agrees to leave the earth alone cause he feels itll offer pretty good champions in the future.

aside from the topic title, would that not be an awesome movie?

 

[Saelune]

I say make it about Dr. Doom, don't fuck him up with stupid shit, and make him into the big bad Marvel-wide villain he is.

I don't really care much for The Thing though. Id much rather just have Human Torch and Spider-Man have a snark-off.

Hell, thinking about it now, probably better to not just redo their origin for a third time and just have them piggy-back on something else as their intro. I don't really like them on their own as a team. I like them more when dealing with Marvel as a whole. Plus Civil War was fun for them due to the split with Richards going Big Brother mode, while Sue, Johnny and Ben are all like "He crazy". (Too bad they wasted "Civil War" on a single "Captain America" (Avengers 3) movie.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

I say a Marvel movie thst focusses on villains. I'll never watch a F4 movie again... but I will watch a Dr. Doom movie.

People piss on the DC movies... but even the supposedly bad ones are still infinitely better than basically all the Marvel movies to date before 2011. The first F4 movie was that special type of bad that it issued forth from me at the credits; "What the fuck was that!?" 4th row, slightly off centre seat.

 

[springheeljack]

Only if every single line of his is a variation of "It's clobberin time!"

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I would just stop making Fantastic Four movies all together. Its a stupidly goofy property, and that's in a universe where a short Canadian runs around in skin-tight yellow leather, and a rich billionaire playboy with a blue mullet builds a suit of armor and paints it red.

 

[PapaGreg096]

I third on a Doctor Doom movie, the dude has so much history and moral ambiguity

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I third on a Doctor Doom movie, the dude has so much history and moral ambiguity

moral ambiguity = douche but has a point... though still, douche.

 

[WolfThomas]

I'm really conflicted. I think any Fantastic Four film shouldn't be an origin but already start with them as superheroes. But at the same time I think it would be great if they could be in the MCU so Doom could be treated like a Thanos or Loki level threat requiring multiples heroes and teams

 

[Saelune]

I was thinking about it some more...I think it would be neat to have older FF, and maybe establish that FF started earlier when they were teens in like, the 70s or 80s, being the second wave alongside Hank Pym and when T'Challa's father was Black Panther. Don't have to do a movie set then, but basically have FF introduced into MCU as older and established. Reed and Sue are already together, maybe Franklin is already a toddler. Just a matter of establishing what the hell they were doing until then is all.

Plus have whoever plays Human Torch mock Captain America's looks, cause that would be funny. (Or have Chris Evans in a dual role cause I am fine with more Chris Evans)

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I was thinking about it some more...I think it would be neat to have older FF, and maybe establish that FF started earlier when they were teens in like, the 70s or 80s, being the second wave alongside Hank Pym and when T'Challa's father was Black Panther. Don't have to do a movie set then, but basically have FF introduced into MCU as older and established. Reed and Sue are already together, maybe Franklin is already a toddler. Just a matter of establishing what the hell they were doing until then is all.

Plus have whoever plays Human Torch mock Captain America's looks, cause that would be funny. (Or have Chris Evans in a dual role cause I am fine with more Chris Evans)

I mean so... it would be a "You still got it" film ala Gran Torino?

 

[FalloutJack]

I'm more-or-less against a Fantastic Four movie, overall. Let's see... Never got into the comics, the shows, and then the movies were crap... Reed Richards Is Useless. They're just not any good.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I'm going to chose to interpret "The Thing" to mean The Thing from The Thing. One of them is infected by an alien when they are trapped at the South Pole, and is going to murder/imitate the others.

 

[Zenja]

I am one of the few people out there that didn't hate the fantastic four movies. (Primarily the first) The story certainly could have used some tweaks, but it worked out ok with only a couple minor plot holes. Doom having powers could have even been done right if they had done it in an increased intelligence "unlocking the hidden power of the mind" thing. One hurdle that really hurt them was casting. Mr. Fantastic and Sue Storm specifically. Not that their performances were terrible but the script didnt explain the young/old dichotomy they pitched. Chris Evans was a good Johnny Storm and Michael Chiklis was a good Thing.

I was thinking about it some more...I think it would be neat to have older FF, and maybe establish that FF started earlier when they were teens in like, the 70s or 80s, being the second wave alongside Hank Pym and when T'Challa's father was Black Panther. Don't have to do a movie set then, but basically have FF introduced into MCU as older and established. Reed and Sue are already together, maybe Franklin is already a toddler. Just a matter of establishing what the hell they were doing until then is all.

Plus have whoever plays Human Torch mock Captain America's looks, cause that would be funny. (Or have Chris Evans in a dual role cause I am fine with more Chris Evans)

I agree completely. Doing this with FF could also really play into what they are doing with Spiderman Homecoming. (Which I love that name) Personally, I would cast Aaron Eckhart as Reed Richards and Jennifer Aniston as Sue Storm. Both aging but still believable in action sequences using their powers more strategically. Both can also sell me as scientists. While Johnny Storm is zipping around as like Liam Hemsworth or something (Many male actors can play that role) and Thing would mostly be CGI. If Michael Clark Duncan was still alive I would cast him, but otherwise, I would scout.

You could bring them in and say that Reed and Sue have been researching the properties of the necklace of Doctor Strange that is speculated to hold the next infinite stone. Or really have them researching anything to do with the Infinite war about to happen other than the Mindstone as Stark has already... done that so to speak.

 

[circularlogic88]

I was thinking about it some more...I think it would be neat to have older FF, and maybe establish that FF started earlier when they were teens in like, the 70s or 80s, being the second wave alongside Hank Pym and when T'Challa's father was Black Panther. Don't have to do a movie set then, but basically have FF introduced into MCU as older and established. Reed and Sue are already together, maybe Franklin is already a toddler. Just a matter of establishing what the hell they were doing until then is all.

Plus have whoever plays Human Torch mock Captain America's looks, cause that would be funny. (Or have Chris Evans in a dual role cause I am fine with more Chris Evans)

To build on "what have they been doing all these years?" Let them have explored a different dimension (the negative zone for a placeholder) in the hopes of finding a way to cure themselves, particularly Ben, but Reed didn't calibrate something properly and what was meant to be a 30 minute trip turned into a 30 year time jump to the far off future of 201X! Then you have another people out of time story and show how they cope as a family and reconnect with the world.

 

[Fox12]

I say make it about Dr. Doom, don't fuck him up with stupid shit, and make him into the big bad Marvel-wide villain he is.

I don't really care much for The Thing though. Id much rather just have Human Torch and Spider-Man have a snark-off.

Hell, thinking about it now, probably better to not just redo their origin for a third time and just have them piggy-back on something else as their intro. I don't really like them on their own as a team. I like them more when dealing with Marvel as a whole. Plus Civil War was fun for them due to the split with Richards going Big Brother mode, while Sue, Johnny and Ben are all like "He crazy". (Too bad they wasted "Civil War" on a single "Captain America" (Avengers 3) movie.

You could have it be about both. Have both of them get fucked over, and then show how they respond to it differently.

Incidentally, I think the best version of the Fantastic Four was in Batman. They felt much more humanized.

 

[Lieju]

I don't think any FF movie should focus on just one of the characters.
Their point is they're a team and a family.

I wouldn'tnecessarily be pposed to yet another origin story since I don't think we've really seen a good one so far... But I'd like Sue and Reed to be older. Human torch can be a teenager/in his early twenties.

But I think we'd have room for a family of superheroes in the MCU, just write it as a family.

 

[Vanilla ISIS]

If I'm making the FF movie, and hopefully work out a deal with Marvel to tie into the expanded universe, you focus on that comic where that space entity came down and wanted to fight a series of earths greatest champions.

and after numerous heroes try and fail, you have the Thing hang in there, half because he's strong as fuck but half because he just doesn't give a fuck if he lives or dies. Have him get the shit kicked out of him but just as about the entity is about to destroy the planet he gets up wearily and all Jeff Hardy like he's like...

https://youtu.be/F_ANV_KiB9Q?t=15m8s

"YOU HAVEN'T BROKEN ME! I'm... I'M STILL STANDING!"

and the entity comes down and does that mussled hair bullshit and agrees to leave the earth alone cause he feels itll offer pretty good champions in the future.

aside from the topic title, would that not be an awesome movie?

I've seen this before:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30gdj6?GK_FACEBOOK_OG_HTML5=1

 

[DeimosMasque]

What a Fantastic Four movie really needs to be about is not any individual character but a specific theme. It needs to be about how the team is integral to each other and ra family first superhero second.

Actually they should kind of done the whole idea of being superheroes in the first place. A Fantastic Four movie has a great potential to be more of a hard science fiction action movie over a superhero movie. If it were me and I was rebooting the story I would focus on Reed's inventions getting them in trouble rather than "hey look a supervillain to fight."

I would cast Reed and Ben As older characters, with Sue being in her late twenties early thirties and Johnny being just on the cusp of adulthood. I would focus on exploration and scientific discovery, and the consequences pushing things too far could have.

Hell that's the whole reason for their original origin. Reed wanted to test his spaceship before the US government wanted to send it up. Why? Because the shielding wasn't ready yet but Reed was sure it would be okay. Does cosmic rays and super powers, and read learning nothing and making things even worse later on

 

[DudeistBelieve]

If I'm making the FF movie, and hopefully work out a deal with Marvel to tie into the expanded universe, you focus on that comic where that space entity came down and wanted to fight a series of earths greatest champions.

and after numerous heroes try and fail, you have the Thing hang in there, half because he's strong as fuck but half because he just doesn't give a fuck if he lives or dies. Have him get the shit kicked out of him but just as about the entity is about to destroy the planet he gets up wearily and all Jeff Hardy like he's like...

https://youtu.be/F_ANV_KiB9Q?t=15m8s

"YOU HAVEN'T BROKEN ME! I'm... I'M STILL STANDING!"

and the entity comes down and does that mussled hair bullshit and agrees to leave the earth alone cause he feels itll offer pretty good champions in the future.

aside from the topic title, would that not be an awesome movie?

I've seen this before:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x30gdj6?GK_FACEBOOK_OG_HTML5=1

It's actually passed on a FF comic.

 

[WolfThomas]

I was thinking about this. If you wanted to have the Fantastic Four as a mature experienced team and not an origin movie and yet still have them enter the MCU you could make it work.

I think for it's flaws (which I don't know I didn't watch it) the new movie changing the powers to having come from the Negative Zone makes sense (given the FF also discovered that).

You could make it that back in the late nineties or the early 2000s whatever gels with the timeline best the FF went off with an experimental dimension craft and got stranded in the negative zone, there they got powers and continued to explore until they found a way back. Coming back they openly disclose their identities and powers, when they realise that creatures are leaking from the Negative zone into ours. And the Avengers or what not can't send them back.

Perhaps have the bad guy of the movie being Annhilus who has followed them back through whatever rift they created. Leave some easters eggs setting up Doom as a bigger threat for a later movie/crossover like Civil War. Kind of like the Joker card at the end of Batman Begins.

Edit: I think you really want to play up that the Fantastic Four as a team are so effective not because of their particular power sets but their ability to work together. Like Reed catapults Ben. Sue uses her forcefields to channel Johnny's flames in a controlled manner.

To build on "what have they been doing all these years?" Let them have explored a different dimension (the negative zone for a placeholder) in the hopes of finding a way to cure themselves, particularly Ben, but Reed didn't calibrate something properly and what was meant to be a 30 minute trip turned into a 30 year time jump to the far off future of 201X! Then you have another people out of time story and show how they cope as a family and reconnect with the world.

Crap I got Ninja'd.

Love the idea of time displacement, you could also implement it by having time not passing the same in the Negative Zone. Like they left in the 60's and came back in modern times with perhaps a decade of experience.