Turning Point:: Fall of Liberty, rise of monotony

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Erwin Rommel

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(Skip this part if you don't give a crap about my gaming background): As this is my first review, I think you should know briefly about my gaming background. I play everything, but my preference is shooters, especially WWII shooters. It all started with Day of Defeat which is perhaps one of the finest online shooters to date. I love the history of WWII, so these games constantly piqued my interest, despite the fact that it has already been done 100 times already. I have played essentially every WWII shooter known to man from the best: Brothers in Arms to the worst of the worst including the recent history channel pacific theater one which name I have already forgotten and don't really care to remember. Personally I would mix it up
by having a game like BIA from the German perspective, showing that they weren't all evil Nazi bastards and their war sucked too, even if they did start it (jerks).

Now for the review: I knew what I was getting myself into with this game, as I had played the demo. But being the retard that I am and constantly needing my gaming fix I picked this one up. The intro sets the backdrop to this poor excuse of a game. First off, who the hell para-drops into a huge city like New York? Ladies and Gentlemen that does not make sense. And I know sending me262 jets zooming through the street of New York may seem cool, and makes for lots of good splosions and shit, but it really isn't that effective (looking at you Goering). I especially liked it when the Nazis para-droping in were so obviously under-trained that they refused to acknowledge you even when you had shot 3 of their buddies parachuting down right in front of them. Apparently Hitler's elite Fallschirmjager was too caught up its own ass to care about pathetic pussy Americans.

I may not be the most adept person at understanding the gaming world, but I do play enough games to ask myself, how is it that game developers actually release this garbage? I know there are idiots out there like me that buy the games on the first day before they see it got a 50% on IGN, but most people don't have this flagrant disregard for useless spending. If I were a developer of this game I would say to myself, "this game sucks ass, why are we releasing this retarded game based on one different element that the Nazis are invading America? The game play sucks, the concept is absolutely ludicrous, and our "awesome" melee system gets boring the second friggen time you beat up a nazi." I can't emphasize how much this point confuses me, I simply can't wrap my head around it.

Being a history buff this game strikes me as incredibly far fetched and over the top. If the Germans weren't using blimps during WWII, then why the hell would they start using them in a combat role afterwards. I don't care what the hell they're made of, a rocket launcher, 3 bullets for that matter are going to a) ignite the damn thing into a ball of flame and if they find some sort of gas that doesn't ignite b) it will deflate and thus be rendered useless. But no, they have hulking death-stars of balloons that take multitudes of rockets to take down. I guess when Winston Churchill died, the laws of reason died with him. And whats the deal with the guns, ooh alternate weapons to the guns we've used 20 times before. Oh wait, its the same exact thing with a couple years added to the date of the gun ie mp50 instead of 40 and the bolt is put in a new place. Who are the add wizards that came up with that one? It really comes as no surprise that the Nazi's lost the war, because after taking over continental Europe, Hitler's Alzheimers really kicked in, leaving Germany controlled by someone about as smart as what you'll be facing in the game. Anyways, the Nazi's scrapped their idea of good camouflage in exchange for something akin to the Brits advertising their presence 2 miles away in the revolutionary war. Come to think of it, I would probably have had more fun playing a game based on the revolutionary war where you stand in a line and wait to be shot (come on history channel). But in summation, the whole alternative history premise from which this game prides itself is utterly ludicrous. It's as if some high schooler from the remedial history class turned this in to his teacher, who in turn gave it to codemasters. It didn't strike a cord with my patriotism, as I don't like New York, and there is no real background to make you care about the people there.

As for the game, the graphics suck big time, it honestly looks like a game on par with the XBOX, and its using the unreal engine? How the hell did they screw that one up so much? If you like other WWII shooters where you run around shooting Nazis, then this might strike a cord. But then again you might feel sorry for the Jerry buggers who don't seem to realize that they could at least prolong your misery buy standing, wait for this, behind something. Auch meine scheisse if I stand behind this box instead of out in an open field, and don't charge this guy who takes at least 50 bullets to kill, I greatly increase my pathetic chance of survival. Perhaps Helmut is on to something. There are no free saves in the game, all based on checkpoints, despite the gaming worlds constant criticism of this. What more do you need to know, if you like the composer who did the music for this game, because he apparently is the biggest and best thing they have to offer on the box of the game, then go ahead and spend either 40 or 60 bucks . Otherwise if you don't want to develop an ulcer as I have, stay the hell away.

If you are looking for my point rating of this game, I must look back to Billy Maddison when I say: Turning Point Fall of Liberty, what you've released is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. At no point in your rambling, incoherent game were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having played it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Disclaimer: This is my first review so If you've made it this far, which I doubt many will, thank you for listening to my flaming. I apologize if it seems unprofessional or unpolished, but I am not a professional so sod off.
 

WingedFortress

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Interesting flame. The best critique I can think of, is to suggest that mabye you expand on your vocabulary a bit, just purely for the readers entertainment. Thing's flow better when you dont have to fall back on the same words/phrases all the time.
But overall, I didnt mind what I read. I mean, it didnt piss me off, and it didnt make me hate you or anything. If I didn't already think this game was a piece, I'd even say you were informative. Keep working at it.
 

Gigantor

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That was fine- you need to be a bit less defensive, especially with your disclaimer at the end. Like Thunderhorse said, though, maybe expand your vocab, particularly your swearwords beyond 'fucking'. There's a whole magical rainbow of cusswords out there, you just have to go look for them...

Erwin Rommel said:
I may not be the most adept person at understanding the gaming world, but I do play enough games to ask myself, how is it that game developers actually release this shit? I know there are idiots out there like me that buy the games on the first day before they see it got a 50% on IGN, but most people don't have this flagrant disregard for useless spending.
You've answered your own question there. Publishers rely a fair amount on people buying their drivel in the early stages, before seeing any reviews. Especially with a game as wanktacular as this one, it wouldn't surprise me if the review copies got 'lost in the post' in a number of cases, thus preventing people from seeing the scores before buying. but I'm quite the cynic, so...

As a p.s. (pedantic sidenote) it's 'piqued my interest', not 'peaked'. Just one of my pet hates.
 

Jiki

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Meh, the cussing really isn't cool. Stopped reading after, oh I don't know, 10th cuss? If you want to continue writing reviews, then I'd seriously recommend you to consider your language. Yahtzee is cool, yeah, but you're not.
 

Pulsifer

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Way too much cussing. It stops being effective if it's used more than once or twice, at MAX three times in a review. I mean, you're looking at every-day mill kind of stuff and you only let yourself curse when something is mind-bogglingly bad, right?

Further, you're too much on the defensive. The first paragraph could have been cut or simply reduced into one singular sentence. "I'm as avid an WWII-FPS gamer as they come." The defensiveness makes you sound as if your opinion shouldn't be taken seriously.

Further, you make a lot of claims without substantiating them to the reader beforehand. The sentence "I may not be the most adept person at understanding the gaming world, but I do play enough games to ask myself, how is it that game developers actually release this shit?" comes before you attempt to explain what the game is, what it's about, how it plays and what the setting/story is. You've got a rambling paragraph before that that really goes nowhere and digresses into the proverbial abyss, and that doesn't help.

Basically, your review repeats that ad nauseum. You make allusions to things that sicken you without giving your reader any coherent and objective idea what the game is supposed to be about.

But your style of humour is ok and at times genuinely funny, in an abstract manner. No Yahtzee, but that's hopefully not what you're aiming to be, either, as he's an atrocious game reviewer.

However, I clicked on this link and knew nothing and I knew nothing after reading your review, either.
 

Jiki

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Pulsifer said:
No Yahtzee, but that's hopefully not what you're aiming to be, either, as he's an atrocious game reviewer.
I count him more of an entertainer as an reviewer, but I figure it's for the best also, otherwise his reviews wouldn't be so interesting.
 

Erwin Rommel

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Thanks for the tips, I took your advice and edited out the curse words. As far as trying to be like Yahtzee, why the hell would I try to do that? That would be like comparing Family Guy to South Park. Family guy sucks, South Park is sheer genius. Although I do enjoy his wit, unfortunately for me, my Brit parents decided to move to America, thus destroying any chance I had at mastering the dry humor he possesses.
 

Jiki

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Eh, I figure dry humor is possible in every country, not just Britain. Their series are known for it (and one of the reasons I prefer their sitcoms over American), but still - dryness isn't related to country. ^^
 

FACT.50

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I stopped reading when you said "so these games constantly PEAKED my interest".
 

Erwin Rommel

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Ha, I had forgotten how juvenile people could be on forums. Jiki, I understand that something in the air of Britain doesn't really make them better at dry humor, they are simply known for it. As for you Fact .50, wow, you're an intellectual, congratulations. I'm sure all the other people that are stuck up their own asses as far as you stopped reading as well because of this, and are snickering slyly whilst taking whiffs of their own farts. As for the rest of us, we stopped reading, because this review isn't really that great in content.
 

Jiki

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Heh, matie, no offense, but you're the right guy to complain about juvenile attitude. :p Brits are known for their dry humor for, well, 3 reason - 1. they make good comedies with dry humor (duh), 2. English aka the new world language is their mother tongue so their shows are more viewable for foreigners than, lets say, German's (though I must say that most German shows I've seen are pretty bad also :p) and 3. they're one of the most known countries in the world so people will sooner turn their interest towards England's witty shows than some other less-known country's (which doesn't, of course, even use English ^^).

Also, if you yourself wrote the review why do you say that you stopped reading it because "this review isn't really that great in content"? Because if you say "us" it's obvious you mean yourself too and it just sounds quite weird (not in "peake my interest" kinda way ^^).
 

FACT.50

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No I stopped readng, because any self proclaimed reviewer who doesn't check their own work isn't worth reading. How can I take you seriously when you can't even be bothered to proofread your work??

Erwin Rommel said:
Ha, I had forgotten how juvenile people could be on forums. Jiki, I understand that something in the air of Britain doesn't really make them better at dry humor, they are simply known for it. As for you Fact .50, wow, you're an intellectual, congratulations. I'm sure all the other people that are stuck up their own asses as far as you stopped reading as well because of this, and are snickering slyly whilst taking whiffs of their own farts. As for the rest of us, we stopped reading, because this review isn't really that great in content.
 

qbert4ever

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Well, I was going to tear you a new one for your bad grammer, unintelligible reveiw style, naughty words, and plain stupidity. But instead I just hope this serves as a warning to all that if you buy this game, then your brain will turn to mush just like this guys so obviously has.
 

ComradeJim270

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I swear quite a bit in my reviews, yet people like them anyway. I think the reason I get less criticism for it is that I proofread my stuff, which makes it hard to say "he's swearing because he can't think of something more intelligent". Erwin, you do need to do the same, it's not difficult. A lot of browsers have built-in spell check and the like. Good spelling and grammar make you come off as more intelligent, and that makes your whole review more meaningful.
 

Erwin Rommel

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First off, thanks again to those who constructively criticize my work, it's very helpful. First, I am stupid thank you for pointing that out qbert4ever, I'm sure you got off to your grand intellect responding to this thread. Jiki, I don't understand why your still trying to explain British wit, I get it. And I say we stopped reading it, because I take my work lightly, I have fun with it, but apparently to post here you have to have no fun whatsoever. Fact .50: I suppose you could look past the grammar errors and read for the content, but for whatever reason you can't, just click the back button and forget you ever saw this review. Haha and qbert4ever, after reading your profile just now, I don't think I have to justify anything you criticize with an answer. I bet you like family guy don't you.
 

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Erwin Rommel said:
Haha and qbert4ever, after reading your profile just now, I don't think I have to justify anything you criticize with an answer. I bet you like family guy don't you.
Strawman anyone? That's like saying he's MGG in disguise.