Twitter allows state controlled People's Daily China news agency to spread unproven claims about Coronavirus originating outside of China

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Hey all, the CCP are at it again. I have no idea if this has been flagged yet

It’s not even a very good doctored photo. Like it’s so blatantly badly done I don’t know if I should be offended or not.
 
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I’m mean, his name is Bob and he’s the coffee guy.

So, I know that Jim Sterling got black listed from most review copies of games. Becuase he didn’t say what companies wanted him to say. What you’re suggesting is similar to that, a critic for the news. Won’t you get the same problem. The expert won’t be able to tweet because they disagree with company policy?
Experts do work in fields outside of the news industry lol. Jim's job is video games critic, that's his area of expertise. Jim is NOT professor of Bio-molecular chemistry who uses that knowledge to criticise video games depictions and implementations of such elements.

What I’m getting at is that I’d prefer Twitter somehow being broken up to reduce their power.. Twitter has too much power right now and can get around a bunch of this stuff using its own market power. Trying to break that power might be the best first step
Well twitter is breaking itself up somewhat by it's present actions of not going with either freedom or a full on super safe space. Parler is the more open free speech place while I think it's Mastedon or something is the more closed hyper safe space place (it's so much of a safe Space it deemed Wil Wheaton too toxic to be there lol)
 

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Okay. You're free to think that.
Gonna side with Trunkage on this one.

You have to remember falsely calling some-one racist / sexism / bigoted would also be counted in libel an slander too.

US laws make if very difficult to sue for libel or slander as you have to prove damages an proving damages is near impossible, as in some-one can phone your boss and claim your a KKK member or something with no proof and yell an manipulate the boss or just pester them enough to fire you. Unless the boss says "We got this call claiming you're a KKK member so I'm firing you" and they will testify to that (which means they themselves could be liable for unfair dismissal if they admit to firing you for that) then you can't "Prove" you were fired due to what was said so can't prove damages.
 

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Gonna side with Trunkage on this one.

You have to remember falsely calling some-one racist / sexism / bigoted would also be counted in libel an slander too.

US laws make if very difficult to sue for libel or slander as you have to prove damages an proving damages is near impossible, as in some-one can phone your boss and claim your a KKK member or something with no proof and yell an manipulate the boss or just pester them enough to fire you. Unless the boss says "We got this call claiming you're a KKK member so I'm firing you" and they will testify to that (which means they themselves could be liable for unfair dismissal if they admit to firing you for that) then you can't "Prove" you were fired due to what was said so can't prove damages.
Well, it still is possible. Eg.


But I don’t think anything Twitter has done is remotely at this level.

My other problem is that this sort of court case hasn’t stop Fox at all. They probably still made money of this story, even after legal costs. Libel and slander is just a speed bump to more profits. A cost of doing business
 

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We were talking about swinging elections and mega-corporations influencing scores of people, but now we're talking about personal harm.
 

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Well, it still is possible. Eg.


But I don’t think anything Twitter has done is remotely at this level.

My other problem is that this sort of court case hasn’t stop Fox at all. They probably still made money of this story, even after legal costs. Libel and slander is just a speed bump to more profits. A cost of doing business
Settling is far more common with such cases in defamation trials as settling can be cheaper than actually going through the rest of the case just on lawyers fees or just they think the potential PR damage will be too bad for the case to drag on and all the details to become public .

Settling doesn't mean a win as such.

Fox settling in that case wouldn't kill Fox because so far the laws mean they rarely face such lawsuits simply because they lawyers know how tough it is to win. About the only ones who have won in recent memory were those involved in the UVA Rolling Stones case an I think the Covington Kids have won a few so far too.