ubisoft DRM...

[vampirekid.13]

does anyone actually believe this will hold up for more than a month or 2?


what gaming companies seem to not realize is that there is a lot of skill, and potential in rogue programmers. i strongly believe the games using the online drm will be decompiled and the DRM stripped from the game within months. if not someone is gonna just make a fake server that redirects all input/output packages to ur own computer and allows u to play the game regardless of it being bought or not.


im kinda curious what everyone actually thinks of the situation. will it work in ubis favor, or just give someone something to do for a month while cracking it?

 

[vampirekid.13]

i just dont think it will hold, there are a lot of pc gamers that have the knowledge and expertise to derail it. i myself know a few buddies that have computer science majors and graduated and are die hard computer gamers. i know they wont stand for it thats for sure...

 

[Snotnarok]

I doubt it'll do anything good for Ubisoft, or the PC gaming market in general.

I mean, Ubisoft aren't the best company out there, but I never thought they'd sink this low. I refuse to buy any Ubisoft game on any medium until they remove it.

If Silent Hunter 5 comes out with this piece of shit system still attached, I may have to join Pimppeter2 in invading France.

They can have that "best" title as soon as they stop slapping their customers in the face with unreasonable DRM

 

[dududf]

Ubisoft will not remove their DRM until sales reflect it.

And even then it'll take an additional 3 games release before they can ease the blame off of piracy.

 

[Weaver]

I'll have a degree in computer science in about 2 months from now, and I have a pretty good background in software and network security. Part of me wants to attempt to break their system just because they seem to think it's so invincible. Hell I'd gladly buy AC2 to play the OTHER game it comes with: break Ubi's DRM

 

[Irridium]

I just can't believe that they think this system will work.

Half the problem isn't with the consumer's problem, its Ubisoft's connection.

They're a french company right? And they have studio's in Canada and the U.S. But what about other countries? It would just be totally unreliable. And what if the place that houses the servers loses power due to a storm? Or what if Ubisoft goes under? Or just doesn't want to support the servers anymore due to financial consernes?

Ubisoft will stop supporting the servers sooner or later, since the cost of maintaining them indefinatly is infinity dollars. And time isn't much of a factor. As we saw with EA, any game server can go down at any time, from games 6 years old to games barely half a year old.

Its just stupid, and not going to work.

Its like they want to kill PC gaming, or they want to create pirates.

 

[Weaver]

I just can't believe that they think this system will work.

Half the problem isn't with the consumer's problem, its Ubisoft's connection.

They're a french company right? And they have studio's in Canada and the U.S. But what about other countries? It would just be totally unreliable. And what if the place that houses the servers loses power due to a storm? Or what if Ubisoft goes under? Or just doesn't want to support the servers anymore due to financial consernes?

Ubisoft will stop supporting the servers sooner or later, since the cost of maintaining them indefinatly is infinity dollars. And time isn't much of a factor. As we saw with EA, any game server can go down at any time, from games 6 years old to games barely half a year old.

Its just stupid, and not going to work.

Its like they want to kill PC gaming, or they want to create pirates.

I'd just rather they STOP making PC games. They've expressed that they're frustrated with the PC market but they still want to stay in it for some reason. Why? No informed PC gamer is going to buy these games, and the people who didn't know about the DRM are going to be rioting outside Ubisoft HQ the first time they lose save progress because their internet hiccuped or your cable/phone line has too much noise on it from a thunderstorm or any other equally reasonable reason to not be on the internet.

They seem to think that because the games will likely not be pirated within the first week of launch that somehow equates to all pirates buying their games. When you turn off like 50% of your consumer base in the first place why the hell would ANY pirates bother with the game? My hope is that their DRM works and not a single copy is pirated and that the game sells like 10,000 copies at most. I want this thing to FLOP and I want ubisoft to know the reason is that no one wants this shitty DRM.

I mean what's better:
1) Release a game: sell 2 million copies, have it pirated 200,000 times.
2) Release a game: sell 10,000 copies, have it pirated 0 times.

 

[CoverYourHead]

It seems to me that this is just going to cause piracy, not prevent it. Hell, half the time pirates have games cracked and on the torrents before the retail version hits the shelves, what's stopping people from pirating a game that will stop the consumer from playing it at random? Morals only go so far.

 

[Irridium]

I just can't believe that they think this system will work.

Half the problem isn't with the consumer's problem, its Ubisoft's connection.

They're a french company right? And they have studio's in Canada and the U.S. But what about other countries? It would just be totally unreliable. And what if the place that houses the servers loses power due to a storm? Or what if Ubisoft goes under? Or just doesn't want to support the servers anymore due to financial consernes?

Ubisoft will stop supporting the servers sooner or later, since the cost of maintaining them indefinatly is infinity dollars. And time isn't much of a factor. As we saw with EA, any game server can go down at any time, from games 6 years old to games barely half a year old.

Its just stupid, and not going to work.

Its like they want to kill PC gaming, or they want to create pirates.

I'd just rather they STOP making PC games. They've expressed that they're frustrated with the PC market but they still want to stay in it for some reason. Why? No informed PC gamer is going to buy these games, and the people who didn't know about the DRM are going to be rioting outside Ubisoft HQ the first time they lose save progress because their internet hiccuped or your cable/phone line has too much noise on it from a thunderstorm or any other equally reasonable reason to not be on the internet.

They seem to think that because the games will likely not be pirated within the first week of launch that somehow equates to all pirates buying their games. When you turn off like 50% of your consumer base in the first place why the hell would ANY pirates bother with the game? My hope is that their DRM works and not a single copy is pirated and that the game sells like 10,000 copies at most. I want this thing to FLOP and I want ubisoft to know the reason is that no one wants this shitty DRM.

I mean what's better:
1) Release a game: sell 2 million copies, have it pirated 200,000 times.
2) Release a game: sell 10,000 copies, have it pirated 0 times.

Whats funny about the whole thing is that pirates don't have to deal with any of this. The only people who have to deal with it are paying customers.

So how this is supposed to stop piracy is just beyond me.

 

[Weaver]

I just can't believe that they think this system will work.

Half the problem isn't with the consumer's problem, its Ubisoft's connection.

They're a french company right? And they have studio's in Canada and the U.S. But what about other countries? It would just be totally unreliable. And what if the place that houses the servers loses power due to a storm? Or what if Ubisoft goes under? Or just doesn't want to support the servers anymore due to financial consernes?

Ubisoft will stop supporting the servers sooner or later, since the cost of maintaining them indefinatly is infinity dollars. And time isn't much of a factor. As we saw with EA, any game server can go down at any time, from games 6 years old to games barely half a year old.

Its just stupid, and not going to work.

Its like they want to kill PC gaming, or they want to create pirates.

I'd just rather they STOP making PC games. They've expressed that they're frustrated with the PC market but they still want to stay in it for some reason. Why? No informed PC gamer is going to buy these games, and the people who didn't know about the DRM are going to be rioting outside Ubisoft HQ the first time they lose save progress because their internet hiccuped or your cable/phone line has too much noise on it from a thunderstorm or any other equally reasonable reason to not be on the internet.

They seem to think that because the games will likely not be pirated within the first week of launch that somehow equates to all pirates buying their games. When you turn off like 50% of your consumer base in the first place why the hell would ANY pirates bother with the game? My hope is that their DRM works and not a single copy is pirated and that the game sells like 10,000 copies at most. I want this thing to FLOP and I want ubisoft to know the reason is that no one wants this shitty DRM.

I mean what's better:
1) Release a game: sell 2 million copies, have it pirated 200,000 times.
2) Release a game: sell 10,000 copies, have it pirated 0 times.

Whats funny about the whole thing is that pirates don't have to deal with any of this. The only people who have to deal with it are paying customers.

So how this is supposed to stop piracy is just beyond me.

Well, imagine Ubisoft really did what they claim - made the game completely uncrackable. No one could pirate it ever. Then it would affect the pirates indirectly cause they couldn't pirate the game. However, does that mean all the pirates are going to just go run out and buy the game? They're living in some sort of fantasy world if they think that's the case because REAL CONSUMERS are swearing off this and all ubisoft games because of this DRM.

In all reality the game will be cracked eventually and the pirates won't have to deal with all the bullshit.

 

[Irridium]

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I know. DRM doesn't do anything to stop pirates. EA learned the hard way with Spore, you'd think Ubisoft would have learned from their mistakes.

If I pay $60 damn dollars for a game, I shouldn't have to ask for permission every time I want to play it, and be monitored while playing it. Are they expecting that I will become a pirate while playing?

 

[Weaver]

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I know. DRM doesn't do anything to stop pirates. EA learned the hard way with Spore, you'd think Ubisoft would have learned from their mistakes.

If I pay $60 damn dollars for a game, I shouldn't have to ask for permission every time I want to play it, and be monitored while playing it. Are they expecting that I will become a pirate while playing?

You know how it is, first you're playing a game and then before you know it you have a pirate hat, hook, parrot and an eyepatch! Thank god Ubisoft is there to stop such a heinous transformation from occurring.

I just don't know what they're thinking. I'm pretty wary of even logging into games like Battlefield and having it linked to an account - but at the very least battlefield is a multiplayer game and I HAVE to be online anyways. And for those if you want to play single player against bots you don't need to log in.

But i mean... it's just insane. It's just flat out insane. I really can find no words to describe what they must be thinking. I'm not even sure they want to make a profit from their PC games anymore because there is no way with the cost of servers, bandwidth, technicians to maintain them, electricity and the MASSIVE amount of consumer reduction they're going to make any money at all.

 

[SimuLord]

Ubi isn't going to kill PC gaming, because that falsely presumes that PC gaming in any way depends on Ubi's efforts, which is a patent falsehood.

The more the megacorps like Ubi, EA, and Activision (with the exception of WoW) think the PC isn't worth the effort, the more the door gets left open for a sweet and fanatically loyal niche market to develop around Paradox Interactive, the Creative Assembly, Stardock, and various indie studios.

edit: and Valve, of course. Steam is carrying the torch.

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

It will most definitely fail..because no one is going to want to spend every minute of every day online just to satisfy the french twat's at Ubisoft

 

[Irridium]

You know how it is, first you're playing a game and then before you know it you have a pirate hat, hook, parrot and an eyepatch! Thank god Ubisoft is there to stop such a heinous transformation from occurring.

I just don't know what they're thinking. I'm pretty wary of even logging into games like Battlefield and having it linked to an account - but at the very least battlefield is a multiplayer game and I HAVE to be online anyways. And for those if you want to play single player against bots you don't need to log in.

But i mean... it's just insane. It's just flat out insane. I really can find no words to describe what they must be thinking. I'm not even sure they want to make a profit from their PC games anymore because there is no way with the cost of servers, bandwidth, technicians to maintain them, electricity and the MASSIVE amount of consumer reduction they're going to make any money at all.

It is stupid.

People pirate movies and music all the damn time, far more than games, yet they don't have stupid crap like this in place.

And this makes me really sad to, since Assassin's Creed 2 is a damn good game, and those who made it deserve money.

 

[jasoncyrus]

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Indeed, I was fine with their drm requirements till i read the online bit. Although itunes tried something out of the box with their mp3s with locking them to play on ipods alone or something like that. I don't know if that is still in use or if its been removed or broken or what.

 

[Plurralbles]

I'm so glad I'm going into computer science. Though there's 14 year olds that can break stuff today so I'm far, far behind the curve.

Ubi isn't going to kill PC gaming, because that falsely presumes that PC gaming in any way depends on Ubi's efforts, which is a patent falsehood.

The more the megacorps like Ubi, EA, and Activision (with the exception of WoW) think the PC isn't worth the effort, the more the door gets left open for a sweet and fanatically loyal niche market to develop around Paradox Interactive, the Creative Assembly, Stardock, and various indie studios.

edit: and Valve, of course. Steam is carrying the torch.

Stardock is insanely awesome. Sins of Solar Empire played wihtout hte disc(at least in single player) YES SIR!

 

[jasoncyrus]

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true but take an ethical hacking course and you can get PAID to break stuff today.

 

[Plurralbles]

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true but take an ethical hacking course and you can get PAID to break stuff today.

Good plan. I'll have to look at my university's courses and see if they have it and what the prerequisites are.