[Update] "Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers" HR 1981

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Lucem712

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A new bill supported by Lamar Smith [http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-wilmington/hr-1981-protecting-children-from-internet-pornographers-sounds-good-right] has emerged.

And it's including some pretty funky stuff in it.


It?s their solution that appalls me: under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you?ve been assigned.

Tracking the private daily behavior of everyone in order to help catch a small number of child criminals is itself the noxious practice of police states. Said an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation: ?The data retention mandate in this bill would treat every Internet user like a criminal and threaten the online privacy and free speech rights of every American.? Even more troubling is what the government would need to do in order to access this trove of private information: ask for it.
As written, The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 doesn?t require that someone be under investigation on child pornography charges in order for police to access their Internet history ? being suspected of any crime is enough. (It may even be made available in civil matters like divorce trials or child custody battles.) Nor do police need probable cause to search this information. As Rep. James Sensenbrenner says, (R-Wisc.) ?It poses numerous risks that well outweigh any benefits, and I?m not convinced it will contribute in a significant way to protecting children.?



Yay! I loved being monitored!

Update!

I was recently informed at this bill is a year old (having emerged in May 2011), but recently it has been put on the Union calender (Dec 16th) and is going to be considered by the House.
 

secretsantaone

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It's extremely low. It'll get passed simply because no one wants be seen as supporting child pornography.
 

Lucem712

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Okay new bill idea: "Protecting the Internet from Lamar Smith" or PILS. We ban him from ever trying to advocate any idea related to the Internet, or make any bills, or have anything to do with it.
I recall someone saying "Oh, he'll just come back and seek revenge", this is it. And who wants to be the guy that's like, 'What, that bill is stupid!' -general public: Pedobear!'
 

Lucem712

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Mortai Gravesend said:
I know, it's really unfortunate. Really frusterating. Getting it to crash like SOPA would be so much harder since the second people see the name they'll be like "Oh that's good!" Reminds me of that thread one person posted about people's reactions on Twitter to Wikipedia going down. Notably their apparent inability to figure out what was going on. Now imagine that if all they saw was that misleading name.
I highly doubt we would be able to fight it, a name like that is basically a 'God-mode' cheat in politics. As if it was "Don't eat cute puppies that like to sleep in oversized baskets Amendment'. General public is fooled just long enough to get it all passed.
 

Nouw

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Supertegwyn said:
Well then, I think we all know the next course of action.

Kill Lamar Smith.
I don't know why I bursted in laughter reading that. I guess I just wasn't expecting the first post to be this bizarre.
 

Supertegwyn

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Nouw said:
Supertegwyn said:
Well then, I think we all know the next course of action.

Kill Lamar Smith.
I don't know why I bursted in laughter reading that. I guess I just wasn't expecting the first post to be this bizarre.
Why thank you, I always love making people laugh.
 

A Raging Emo

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secretsantaone said:
It's extremely low. It'll get passed simply because no one wants be seen as supporting child pornography.
Dang; I got ninja'd by the second reply.

Basically this, [sub]but to avoid low content;[/sub] if it's a fight he wants, then he'll get one. To be honest, no one wants these Bills in place, except perhaps a small number of groups. Not individuals, but groups. Companies, Corporations, Political Parties.

Even though no one wants to be labelled as a "Child Porn Supporter", there will be a fight against this bill, despite the fact that everyone who does will be labelled (presumably, by Lamar Smith and the Bill's supporters) as such.
 

FalloutJack

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Okay new bill idea: "Protecting the Internet from Lamar Smith" or PILS. We ban him from ever trying to advocate any idea related to the Internet, or make any bills, or have anything to do with it.
PILS HERE!

*Gets shot*

Something needs to be recorded about Lamar Smith that everyone will rally against, especially if it goes viral on Youtube.
 

General Twinkletoes

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Does anything Lamar Smith do make sense at all? Fuck him. This is so stupid. I can maybe understand monitoring people who are suspected internet child pornographers, but otherwise, this is stupid.
 

Thyunda

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TopazFusion said:
Seriously, what is this guy's problem?

Have some funny pictures about him . . .




That second picture may be the creepiest grin I've seen in a long time.
 

Montezuma's Lawyer

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Lucem712 said:
A new bill supported by Lamar Smith [http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-wilmington/hr-1981-protecting-children-from-internet-pornographers-sounds-good-right] has emerged.

And it's including some pretty funky stuff in it.


It?s their solution that appalls me: under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you?ve been assigned.

Tracking the private daily behavior of everyone in order to help catch a small number of child criminals is itself the noxious practice of police states. Said an attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation: ?The data retention mandate in this bill would treat every Internet user like a criminal and threaten the online privacy and free speech rights of every American.? Even more troubling is what the government would need to do in order to access this trove of private information: ask for it.
As written, The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 doesn?t require that someone be under investigation on child pornography charges in order for police to access their Internet history ? being suspected of any crime is enough. (It may even be made available in civil matters like divorce trials or child custody battles.) Nor do police need probable cause to search this information. As Rep. James Sensenbrenner says, (R-Wisc.) ?It poses numerous risks that well outweigh any benefits, and I?m not convinced it will contribute in a significant way to protecting children.?



Yay! I loved being monitored!

Its only a matter of time before Lamar Smith is found to be watching child porn on the internet.
 

Surpheal

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Does anyone think that it is just a bit strange that after reading this that I began to think of ways to get rid of this guy. And I don't mean just out right killing him, I mean getting rid of him in ways that would make Edgar Allen Poe look like an upstanding citizen. Or just take some of his ideas and use them.
 

RaffB

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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Benjamin Franklin


...I'm British, and even I seem to be paying more attention to this than most Americans...
 

Naeras

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This sort of leaves me with the big question: What does this guy have against the internet?
 

4RM3D

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Lucem712 said:
It?s their solution that appalls me: under language approved 19 to 10 by a House committee, the firm that sells you Internet access would be required to track all of your Internet activity and save it for 18 months, along with your name, the address where you live, your bank account numbers, your credit card numbers, and IP addresses you?ve been assigned.
Saving the data of every US citizen for 18 months? Do they have any idea how much data that is? The ISPs do not have this capability. And it is going to take a few years before they get this far.

Also, can someone please shoot Lamar Smith? Please?

EDIT: Also...

Lucem712 said:
your credit card numbers
Well, this can't possibly be abused in anyway. We are one hack away from a fire sale [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_sale_%28disambiguation%29].