US and World Health Organization: Report on Cocaine

[short_name111]

Hey guys
was just surfing the net when I came across this:

http://transform-drugs.blogspot.com/2009/06/report-they-didnt-want-you-to-see.html

it links to an article that describes the UN report on cocaine use, and US's response.
(awesome read BTW)
anyways, just thought I'd share. It was interesting to me, might be interesting to you (yes you, you bunch of junkies, lol).

 

[bue519]

Yeah well coke is still coke and its probably not that good for you regardless.
EDIT: Also the cocaine that brought into the country during the Reagan Administration (by the CIA) pretty much cause the crack epidemic which ravaged many communities and whose effects are still felt to this day.

 

[sheic99]

An official release of this could change the legalization push from marijuana towards coke. I would enjoy seeing a reaction after this came to press.

 

[Cuniculus]

Ha.

Let me just say, that you should never have to say "less-severe" ... either it's severe or it isn't. It's not like you can say "it will only kill you a little bit".

Also, they said in this, that the effects aren't bad for low dose users, but forget the fact that most low dose users become high dose users because they need more of the drug to get the same high.

I don't believe most studies anyway. Everything is always conflicting. One study comes out and says something is bad for you, then one a few years later says it's good for you. Who the hell is right?

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Let me just say, that you should never have to say "less-severe" ... either it's severe or it isn't. It's not like you can say "it will only kill you a little bit".

Garbage, there are degrees of severity. Leg blown off? Severe. Shot in the leg? Also severe, but less so.

 

[Cuniculus]

Let me just say, that you should never have to say "less-severe" ... either it's severe or it isn't. It's not like you can say "it will only kill you a little bit".

Garbage, there are degrees of severity. Leg blown off? Severe. Shot in the leg? Also severe, but less so.

Sir, how DARE you! First rule of triage, guys with guns go first!

Also, I guess it would be partially opinion. A bullet in the leg isn't anything that can't be taken care of without the help of a doctor. Stop the bleeding. That's about it. Sure, you have to have the bullet removed eventually, but it's not what I would call severe.

Severe is something that has to be handled NOW. Either you get medical attention, or you will die within the next few minutes. You're right though, a blown off leg is a perfect example of this.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Sir, how DARE you! First rule of triage, guys with guns go first!

Also, I guess it would be partially opinion. A bullet in the leg isn't anything that can't be taken care of without the help of a doctor. Stop the bleeding. That's about it. Sure, you have to have the bullet removed eventually, but it's not what I would call severe.

Severe is something that has to be handled NOW. Either you get medical attention, or you will die within the next few minutes. You're right though, a blown off leg is a perfect example of this.

Say that bullet went through the femoral artery? Whose gonna die first?

Anyway, that's not my point. Severe has a lot of uses. Maybe you are a corpseman or something and "severe" has a very particular, tightly defined meaning to you, but given the context of this report, I doubt the meaning is the same. Hence my objection to your statement.

 

[TMAN10112]

I'm extreamly skeptical of "hard" drugs (both legal and illegal), as I've seen how an addiction to them can destroy a person and the people around him.


However, I don't feel that I should oppose something without seeing both sides.

 

[Cuniculus]

Sir, how DARE you! First rule of triage, guys with guns go first!

Also, I guess it would be partially opinion. A bullet in the leg isn't anything that can't be taken care of without the help of a doctor. Stop the bleeding. That's about it. Sure, you have to have the bullet removed eventually, but it's not what I would call severe.

Severe is something that has to be handled NOW. Either you get medical attention, or you will die within the next few minutes. You're right though, a blown off leg is a perfect example of this.

Say that bullet went through the femoral artery? Whose gonna die first?

Anyway, that's not my point. Severe has a lot of uses. Maybe you are a corpseman or something and "severe" has a very particular, tightly defined meaning to you, but given the context of this report, I doubt the meaning is the same. Hence my objection to your statement.

Alright, fair enough. I am not a corpseman, but have been through many of their self aid classes, so this could explain why I don't find the definition very loose.

Though on the idea of the femoral, you could die within two minutes due to loss of blood. I will give you that the blown off leg will die first, the gunshot has now actually BECOME severe. Different situation all together.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Though on the idea of the femoral, you could die within two minutes due to loss of blood. I will give you that the blown off leg will die first, the gunshot has now actually BECOME severe. Different situation all together.

Well, fair enough, the shooty thing was just picked out of thin air to try and illustrate a point, I could have used the severity of tropical storms or earthquakes, but instead I chose something I know little about. Next time I will choose tropical storms and earthquakes, or perhaps cocaine and heroin.