Valve's Steam has over 12 million users. Sadface.

[Frostbite3789]

It really saddens me that in this day and age so many people would willingly sign up for DRM and praise it so much. In this day and age when people are clearly so worried about the ToS, why would they sign up for a service with one that's so vague?

A ToS that absolves Valve of any liability for any problems Steam might cause on your system or any problems at all related to Steam.

Or a system that requires you to register single player games online before playing them. If you run into a problem, better be ready to deal with support and provide six different proofs of purchase to play your legally bought game!

I mean, by golly gosh, I'm shocked I haven't seen an article on every website detailing these facts, since only reporting some companies do these things be sensationalist reporting and playing to what people like and dislike. Right? Right, guys?

Huh. It's funny when you at it like that, isn't it?

 

[The Woolly One]

Meh, I've never had any problems with it and I picked up Civilization IV, with all DLC, for about £4.

 

[Exterminas]

Please show me any license agreement in the western world that does not contain such a standard viability waving clause. They all write this stuff down, and most users never run into any problems with that.

It is just like the notice in your aspirin box. They tell you that that stuff might cause your brain to die, but nobody cares because while technically true, it is a once in a billion thing.

Steam is an awesome service that provides me with great games. So far I have not had any negative experience with them (You know, in praxis, not in a hypothectical horror scenario)

 

[Daystar Clarion]

If there was any other company, I would agree with you.


But this is Valve.

They have proven, time and time again, that they care about gamers and their business practices reflect this.

People have no problems with corporations.

People have problems with souless corporations that don't give a shit.

 

[Sam17]

Pretty sure the ToS to most things states that the company isn't liable for anything, never had an issue with Steam, it has good sales, useful social features and easy interface

It has 12 million users for a reason

Only thing that irks me is that Punkbuster doesn't like the Steam overlay, but thats probably more of a Punkbuster issue

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Huh. It's funny when you at it like that, isn't it?

Not as funny as you slagging off Steam while having a Saxton Hale avatar.

That puts the AlanisMorrisettometer up to 11.

 

[Frostbite3789]

Steam is an awesome service that provides me with great games. So far I have not had any negative experience with them (You know, in praxis, not in a hypothectical horror scenario)

Steam gives me some hardass time every time I try to register a retail copy of a game that requires Steam. Without fail. It's always something. The Orange Box refused to add it to my Steam library. It'd accept the code that I bought it, then not show up.

Left 4 Dead did the same thing. Then it kept trying to download instead of installing from the disk, when I was following Steam support's specific directions when this happens.

Then with Dead Island it said I had a duplicate CD key, not Steam's fault, but due to it requiring Steam I couldn't even play singleplayer or install the game at all while I waited for this issue to be resolved.

Oh my god, someone has had actual bad experiences with Steam?! El gaspo!

 

[Sneaky-Pie]

Tongue and cheek.

I can dig it.

 

[Thaluikhain]

I mean, by golly gosh, I'm shocked I haven't seen an article on every website detailing these facts, since only reporting some companies do these things be sensationalist reporting and playing to what people like and dislike. Right? Right, guys?

Snark snark.

But, if people know what they are getting into, what's wrong with them choosing to accept things and be part of it?

 

[Frostbite3789]

Huh. It's funny when you at it like that, isn't it?

Not as funny as you slagging off Steam while having a Saxton Hale avatar.

That puts the AlanisMorrisettometer up to 11.

Because I like Valve. I use Steam. But all the Origin hate from people who have pointedly said they haven't used it and won't makes me want to put my head through a wall and cause property damage.

Steam is awesome, but lets not act like it's some god figure and is infallible.

 

[Frostbite3789]

I mean, by golly gosh, I'm shocked I haven't seen an article on every website detailing these facts, since only reporting some companies do these things be sensationalist reporting and playing to what people like and dislike. Right? Right, guys?

Snark snark.

But, if people know what they are getting into, what's wrong with them choosing to accept things and be part of it?

I'd pose the same question for a similar thread currently on the forum. You know, the one this was a jab at.

 

[Sneaky-Pie]

I mean, by golly gosh, I'm shocked I haven't seen an article on every website detailing these facts, since only reporting some companies do these things be sensationalist reporting and playing to what people like and dislike. Right? Right, guys?

Snark snark.

But, if people know what they are getting into, what's wrong with them choosing to accept things and be part of it?

Exactly.

It's basically kids (namely the ones over in the Origin has 4 million users thread) whining because people don't think the way they do and are therefore "wrong."

 

[AndrewC]

I've never had any problems with it.

A problem I do have however is with people making "*INSERT NAME OF PRODUCT/COMPANY/PERSON/WHATEVER HAS SO MANY USERS, THIS MAKES ME WANT TO CUT MYSELF AT NIGHT*"

a) More and more people have been making fucking stupid threads like this lately, don't join in. It's irritating.

b) It's really damn irritating.

Please show me any license agreement in the western world that does not contain such a standard viability waving clause. They all write this stuff down, and most users never run into any problems with that.

This too ^

 

[Exterminas]

Steam is an awesome service that provides me with great games. So far I have not had any negative experience with them (You know, in praxis, not in a hypothectical horror scenario)

Steam gives me some hardass time every time I try to register a retail copy of a game that requires Steam. Without fail. It's always something. The Orange Box refused to add it to my Steam library. It'd accept the code that I bought it, then not show up.

Left 4 Dead did the same thing. Then it kept trying to download instead of installing from the disk, when I was following Steam support's specific directions when this happens.

Then with Dead Island it said I had a duplicate CD key, not Steam's fault, but due to it requiring Steam I couldn't even play singleplayer or install the game at all while I waited for this issue to be resolved.

Oh my god, someone has had actual bad experiences with Steam?! El gaspo!

Why do you even buy a game that requires steam as a retail copy?
I am not trying to say that these problems were your fault (Though they probably were in some way), but by going the extra mile and making it needlessy complicated you definately do not count as an average user.

As I said, buying steam games as physical copies is pretty much pointless, just buy it on steam directly and you won't have and fuss and won't have to go to the store.

 

[distortedreality]

Steam = Valve

Origin = EA

Difference is obvious.

 

[Catchy Slogan]

I like the cut of your jib, sir!

I approve of this parody.

 

[BlastedTheWorm]

Because I like Valve. I use Steam. But all the Origin hate from people who have pointedly said they haven't used it and won't makes me want to put my head through a wall and cause property damage.

Steam is awesome, but lets not act like it's some god figure and is infallible.

I don't think it's because Steam is perfect. As you say, it's not, although when it launched it was a LOT worse.

It's more to do with Origin's whole privacy invasion thing, methinks.

 

[Frostbite3789]

Snip

Driving to the store and my DVD drive on my computer are faster than 300 KB/s.

Also, I didn't know a duplicate CD key coming in a sealed package was my fault.

Thanks guy for being patronizing.

 

[rvbnut]

Steam = Valve

Origin = EA

Difference is obvious.

Steam = good for gaming.

Origin = bad for gaming.

Difference is obvious.