Video games are the only art you can be bad at enjoying

[bdcjacko]

Video games are the only art form that you can actually be bad at trying to enjoy them. You can't be bad at listening to music or looking at a painting which will prevent you from enjoying all the content available from those art forms. But you can be bad at playing video games.

I mean have you ever had to prove your skill in watching a movie or play to keep watching? Have you had to dance good just to keep listening to a song? Nope. But you have to constantly prove yourself in games to get the rest of the content.

How does this make you feel?

*you don't need to quote me to reply*

 

[JPH330]

Actually, I'm pretty bad at watching movies. What with my A.D.D. and all.

 

[bdcjacko]

Actually, I'm pretty bad at watching movies. What with my A.D.D. and all.

I to know the sting of a.d.d.

 

[Psycho Cat Industries]

I'd say that I am bad at listening to rap. I get what you are saying here but what's the issue?

 

[Daveman]

I had similar difficulty at that part of the game too.

What pisses me of most though is having to unlock all the guns and shit in CoD and even more so in TF2. That was one of the main reasons I stopped playing both.

Developing a taste that allows you to enjoy a large portion of fine art takes way more time than getting good enough at games for them to be fun. Have you ever seen a child attending a classical music concert? Or plebeians in an art gallery?

So yeah, your argument is invalid.

(BTW I love the looks I get when I use the word "plebs" in non-humorous fashion)

The difference is that nobody is denied entry to a concert of an art gallery whereas in games you are not allowed to experience all of the content.

Also yes I've seen children at concerts and plebeians at art galleries. So yeah, your argument is invalid.

 

[bdcjacko]

Developing a taste that allows you to enjoy a large portion of fine art takes way more time than getting good enough at games for them to be fun. Have you ever seen a child attending a classical music concert? Or plebeians in an art gallery?

So yeah, your argument is invalid.

(BTW I love the looks I get when I use the word "plebs" in non-humorous fashion)

i disagree. Just because you don't get classical music doesn't mean you only get to hear the first 3 notes of an opera before having to prove you get to listen to the rest of the opera.

 

[Inkidu]

Don't tell that to critics. Let's just say for the sake of argument you like Transformers or Green Lantern, and tell a movie critic (no not Moveibob, I don't know the man and he might be very good at holding in his opinions on a person-to-person basis) some of them are going to jump on you that you don't understand and hence cannot fully enjoy a film.

You can be bad at playing a video game. I hate playing Halo, but I love the Halo universe. The truth is though that no art can be "enjoyed badly".

 

[bdcjacko]

I had similar difficulty at that part of the game too.

What pisses me of most though is having to unlock all the guns and shit in CoD and even more so in TF2. That was one of the main reasons I stopped playing both.

Yeah, this is what I stole this idea from. I heard it on the radio but they wouldn't say his name.

 

[Rossmallo]

To be honest, I don't think skill has any sort of bearing on how much fun you can have at something. Sure, it's SLIGHTLY Needed, but...I utterly SUCK at TF2, but I have the time of my life on it.

 

[Comando96]

Developing a taste that allows you to enjoy a large portion of fine art takes way more time than getting good enough at games for them to be fun. Have you ever seen a child attending a classical music concert? Or plebeians in an art gallery?

So yeah, your argument is invalid.

(BTW I love the looks I get when I use the word "plebs" in non-humorous fashion)

Well I can see the angle you are coming from... but... if your bad at looking at fine art... are you actually then consequently enjoying that art? As someone said above, child, classical music. The child is not enjoying it

 

[Erana]

That's what makes video games so special. It relies on the audience like no other medium.
If challange is a part of the developer's intent when making the game, then for better or worse, so be it.

But I don't think it stops you from experiencing the content altogether. There are cheat codes and watching others play. Yeah, it perverts the vision of the creator a bit, but if what you seek from the game is to access all content, then why not experience it through an alternative means?

 

[bdcjacko]

Don't tell that to critics. Let's just say for the sake of argument you like Transformers or Green Lantern, and tell a movie critic (no not Moveibob, I don't know the man and he might be very good at holding in his opinions on a person-to-person basis) some of them are going to jump on you that you don't understand and hence cannot fully enjoy a film.

You can be bad at playing a video game. I hate playing Halo, but I love the Halo universe. The truth is though that no art can be "enjoyed badly".

But you aren't denied the content of the film

 

[AdumbroDeus]

You're incorrect, but not in what you

Video games are the only art form that you can actually be bad at trying to enjoy them. You can't be bad at listening to music or looking at a painting which will prevent you from enjoying all the content available from those art forms. But you can be bad at playing video games.

I mean have you ever had to prove your skill in watching a movie or play to keep watching? Have you had to dance good just to keep listening to a song? Nope. But you have to constantly prove yourself in games to get the rest of the content.

How does this make you feel?

You're incorrect, but only partially about what you're trying to get across.


You can be bad at listening to music by not understanding the individual musical techniques presented and not understanding how they relate to the piece as a whole.

This is just as much true of books, movies, and visual art.


Video games not only have the possibility of lack of understanding of the material, but also inability to actually access the material based on skill. While this is not true of music and visual arts, it actually is true of books. You need to be able to read the words on a page in order to actually access the material at all which is a matter of skill, a grasp of the language and vocabulary. This is not true of movies because you are forcefully presented with the material regardless of your comprehension of one aspect.


But in general it's worth noting that you can be bad at enjoying any art, just in different ways.

 

[emeraldrafael]

There are some rather terrble movies that honestly you could say if you sat through them you dserve a metal of awesomeness.

ButI get what you're saying, and guess I agree. THough you an be bad at enjoying any painting and still enjoy it.

 

[Kahunaburger]

You can be bad at reading.

 

[Inkidu]

That's what makes video games so special. It relies on the audience like no other medium.
If challange is a part of the developer's intent when making the game, then for better or worse, so be it.

But I don't think it stops you from experiencing the content altogether. There are cheat codes and watching others play. Yeah, it perverts the vision of the creator a bit, but if what you seek from the game is to access all content, then why not experience it through an alternative means?

True, but I've never played a Halo game to completion, but I'm always looking for other media to enjoy it in.

Being bad at a game and not enjoying it are two different, but not entirely exclusive things.
I mean I've never completed the Witcher but I'm going to be buying its console port because I love the Witcher.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Video games are the only art form that you can actually be bad at trying to enjoy them. You can't be bad at listening to music or looking at a painting which will prevent you from enjoying all the content available from those art forms. But you can be bad at playing video games.

I mean have you ever had to prove your skill in watching a movie or play to keep watching? Have you had to dance good just to keep listening to a song? Nope. But you have to constantly prove yourself in games to get the rest of the content.

How does this make you feel?

I don't know. How does it make YOU feel?

Seriously, if you're going to ask a question, at least answer it yourself. It bugs me when people do this.

OT: That depends on what you define "art" as(the definition of "art" being entirely subjective). Maybe I think playing sports is an art form. In that case, you'd be wrong.