WarCraft IV a Posibility?

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Link55

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With WoW losing its fan-base and SC2 most likely dying after this expansion. Could you see a WarCraft IV in development especially with the new WarCraft movie coming out I believe next year if not in a couple years. Although I am aware of their newer games such as HearthStone: Heroes of WarCraft and their new shooter, sorry forgot what it was called. But even then could you see a new WarCraft game in the near future?
 

DoPo

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Link55 said:
But even then could you see a new WarCraft game in the near future?
Hold on near future? You're still talking about Blizzard here, right - the IP hasn't passed hands while I wasn't looking or something?

No, I don't think Warcraft 4 is going to come on soon. I am fairly confident it's going to come out at some point but nor "soon". Whatever reasonable value is assigned to "soon".
 

wizzy555

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I'm inclined to say no.

1) Difficult to maintain story consistency with on-going MMO
2) Starcraft is one of the few RTS's going at the moment and it isn't as popular as blizzard would have liked - MOBAs are more popular at the moment
3) Blizzard seem very interested in free to play models at the moment (Hearthstone, heroes of the storm, maybe Overwatch)
 

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I honestly don't care anymore. I was invested in the Warcraft story, but since WoW took over for 10 years and I don't play it - since if I can be candid I think it is shit - I just don't care anymore.
 

Aetrion

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The bigger question is whether StarCraft eventually makes the jump to something other than an RTS. If StarCraft remains RTS only then it unlikely they will release other RTS games in the future.

There might literally just have to be a bit of dead air for the franchise before it comes back. WoW isn't going to last forever, and sometimes things just have to rest for a while before they can come back with fresh ideas.
 

theSovietConnection

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wizzy555 said:
I'm inclined to say no.

1) Difficult to maintain story consistency with on-going MMO
I think this is why we won't see a new Warcraft RTS until after Blizz pulls the plug on WoW. I imagine what will probably end up happening is Blizz setting up a new base in the story, bring out a couple RTS games, then WoW 2.

Do I want to see it go like that? Absolutely not. WoW as it is has essentially killed off my enthusiasm for most fantasy based MMOs. However, I don't know if the money udder that WoW has been is something they could resist trying to go back to once they have a fresh story, fresh characters, and potentially even a fresh setting.
 

Aerosteam

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We're only going to get Warcraft IV after WoW dies.

I suggest cryostasis.
 

RJ 17

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Considering the fact that WoW has more or less killed off all the major antagonists that could warrant a new RTS (Lich King? Dead. Deathwing? Dead. Burning Legion? Pretty much extinct), I highly doubt they'll make a new RTS unless they completely reboot the series...which is unlikely.
 

Mr.Mattress

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I'd get WarCraft IV, though I wonder what it would be like? Would it continue the story of WoW, but as a RTS? Would certain things from WoW Canon be dropped? How many factions will there be? Who could be a new threat?
 

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Link55 said:
With WoW losing its fan-base *snip*
The thing about WoW is that it still has a looooong way to go before it reaches the point of "losing its fan base." At the end of Q1 2015, WoW had 7.1 million subscribers, which is actually up from its lowest point in Q2 of last year. That's still a whole lot of paying customers.

More importantly, the profit margins for WoW will continue to be high, even as player counts dwindle. This assumes, of course, that Blizzard scales down the operation as the numbers drop. Servers will merge, and GM staff may be cut, but the game will continue to pull in money for years. Heck, it pulled in 725 million in nine months last year. You can bet that we're going to be hearing about WoW for several more years.

Unfortunately, that may kill off any chance at a Warcraft sequel, which makes me sad.
 

Lufia Erim

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The kids these days don't know about Warcraft. They know about World of Warcraft, but not Warcraft. So no, i don't think we'll see a warcraft 4. I think we'll more likely see World of Starcraft. And then blizzard is going to buy their own first world country.
 

The Madman

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Warcraft 4 is inevitably going to happen one day just don't hold your breath for it.

RJ 17 said:
Considering the fact that WoW has more or less killed off all the major antagonists that could warrant a new RTS (Lich King? Dead. Deathwing? Dead. Burning Legion? Pretty much extinct), I highly doubt they'll make a new RTS unless they completely reboot the series...which is unlikely.
There's still a Lich King and the Burning Legion is as powerful as ever, Kil'Jaeden and Sargeras the two big head honcho of the Burning Legion are both still out there and active. WOW also added quite a few antagonists as well such as the Old Gods and Titans mythos, plus oldies like Queen Azshara are still alive and well.

No, Blizzard isn't lacking in villain material that's for sure. If nothing else it's not like you really need a big baddie with the Alliance and Horde are always at each others throats.
 

RJ 17

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The Madman said:
There's still a Lich King and the Burning Legion is as powerful as ever, Kil'Jaeden and Sargeras the two big head honcho of the Burning Legion are both still out there and active. WOW also added quite a few antagonists as well such as the Old Gods and Titans mythos, plus oldies like Queen Azshara are still alive and well.
Still, are they really a threat considering 25 (or less) random slap-dicks can march right into their fortress and beat the snot out of them?

No, Blizzard isn't lacking in villain material that's for sure. If nothing else it's not like you really need a big baddie with the Alliance and Horde are always at each others throats.
I'd argue you kinda do since the Alliance and Horde aren't really in "THE OTHER SIDE MUST DIE!!!!!" mode these days. Aren't most of the big objectives in WoW these days co-operative ventures between the Horde and Alliance? "Team up against a common enemy" and all that a la Archemonde from WCIII.

Look, I'd love for there to be a new WC RTS, I just honestly don't see it happening considering everything that has occurred in WoW.
 

Elfgore

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Well, I wouldn't fight it too much. WarCraft 3 is pretty the much the strategy game that got me into them. So a little bit of more would be pretty baller.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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More than likely WoW will end the story of the Warcraft universe with its final expansion, so I'd have to say no there won't be Warcraft IV. The Burning Legion is still out there and isn't exactly happy it was defeated on Outland and the loss of Kil'Jaeden and Sargeras has yet to show his face in person. Plus Queen Azshara hasn't made a modern world appearance, and there's a whole lot of places unexplored (Troll Isles for example). And the Old Gods are still around because you can't really kill that which is not alive.
 

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RJ 17 said:
Considering the fact that WoW has more or less killed off all the major antagonists that could warrant a new RTS (Lich King? Dead. Deathwing? Dead. Burning Legion? Pretty much extinct), I highly doubt they'll make a new RTS unless they completely reboot the series...which is unlikely.
What makes you think they couldn't repurpose story beats they used in WoW for a Warcraft game? The entire basis for two of the expansions was built on games they'd already made, after all. I mean, it's different, sure, but they could even just take the general plot and then overhaul it entirely so it's not as hilariously overwrought as it was in WoW (and so that you actually fight Deathwing, instead of Suddenly Tentacles).

Anyway, I'd get a Warcraft IV. Or a single-player Warcraft RPG. Or a free-to-play World of Warcraft. ... I just want more Warcraft without a subscription. :/ Warcraft II and III are awesome, but they only go so far.
 

The Madman

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RJ 17 said:
Still, are they really a threat considering 25 (or less) random slap-dicks can march right into their fortress and beat the snot out of them?
Neither Sargeras or Queen Azshara have been fought in WOW. The one time you encounter Azshara she sees the player as such a minor threat that she completely ignores you. Kil'Jaeden is fought briefly in the final raid of Burning Crusade, where the player with the help of the Blue Dragonflight and various other lore characters manage to prevent him from entering Azeroth, but he's never actually defeated it's just his means of entering Azeroth is destroyed.

Arthas was lore-wise defeated by Tirion Fordring after Frostmourne was shattered and the spirits contained within turned against Arthas, rallied by the spirit of his own dead father King Terenas. The players in the raid itself all die horribly, seriously, and it's only Tirion that saves them. We have no means of knowing how powerful the new Lich King might be.

And in regards to the Old Gods players have never fought an Old God at its full strength. We've fought one that was already left for dead and another that was trying to break free from the prison weakening it. There's one Old God on Azeroth that has neither been defeated nor imprisoned but players have yet to encounter him.

As for Deathwing... yeah, that part of the story is just stupid. I don't know what Blizzard were thinking, I assume they handed off writting duties to an intern for that expansion because even by cheesy B grade Blizzard storylines it's downright idiotic.

RJ 17 said:
I'd argue you kinda do since the Alliance and Horde aren't really in "THE OTHER SIDE MUST DIE!!!!!" mode these days.
The last expansion was literally Alliance vs. Horde themed, culminating in Theramore being destroyed and Orgrimmar being besieged. There's tons of bad blood between the two factions. Plus if nothing else sooner or later someone's going to have to deal with Sylvanas and her nutty Forsaken loyalists, whether that be in a book, movie, WOW, or in a new game though beats me.

Probably be a book though, Blizzard are kinda lazy like that honestly.
 

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Possiblity? Yes. Probable? No.

It can only happen if WoW dies for good and if they manage to salvage the mangled piece of story they've left i'd be suprised.

About the bosses: Stop pretending they didn't fuck up the Old Gods. They're levels above any other being in the universe. They don't even see Sargeras as a threat as stated in the books. Even in a weakened state they should wipe the floor with the whole fully powered dragon clans together or even the complete Burning Legion.

It's kinda like this: An old God >>>> A titan/Last Guardian >>>> All 3 Pesky Demonlords (Kil, Archimonde and forgothisname) >> Dragonaspects
For 25 blokes to be walk up to an old god and kill him they'd be way stronger than any of the main NPC's like Thrall, Jaina or Illidan.

Keep in mind these 3 Gods were only barely defeated by the creators of the universe.
 

Auberon

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If you breed, your grandkids might see it. Assuming Blizzard doesn't wrap up any stuff like Lovecraft, Sargeras etc within WoW by then.