we need more 'intelligent' shooters

[shootthebandit]

the shooter genre has developed a stereotype for being geared towards twitchy ADHD college jocks. there is so much more to this genre, i loved past MGS games which made you think about each move. imagine a shooter based on the events of the film 'behind enemy lines' where one is being hunted and every resource and ounce of knowledge must be used

imagine a shooter where you are seriously out numbered and you have to set up traps, ambushes and decoys

as much as i love my uber macho modern shooters i think there is so many more options, by making the player overpowered doesn't achieve anything BUT by putting the player at a disadvantage makes the player think and it also creates more suspense and immersion

 

[Professor Cubbage]

It wouldn't sell as well as games like CoD. That's all there really is to it, although I agree that we definitely need more diversity in the genre.

 

[Jedamethis]

It wouldn't sell as well as games like CoD.

That really is all there is to it. Shame.

 

[Napierdalac]

If i play FPS, it's because i want to "****ing shoot something" - not because i want to think !

And if you classify MGS as a shooter, your'e playing it wrong

 

[TriggerHappyAngel]

It wouldn't sell as well as games like CoD. That's all there really is to it, although I agree that we definitely need more diversity in the genre.

damn, the best answer already given so soon?
- indeed, Publishers don't want inovative ideas ... they want money.

 

[Kakashi on crack]

When I play a game, I don't want super-challenging college-grade puzzels and such.

-BUT- I understand what you mean, and I think everyone would enjoy a game that actually had challenge to it in the sense of "you have this to work with, no you are not uber, when it's gone, it's gone." It makes the players use their resources wisely and such.

This kind of game has been done for strategy games, such as the swampworlds in Goblin Commander, and that one DS series based on post-apocolypse settings, along with old ones like Dungeon Keeper 2. But in an FPS its a lot harder to pull off since you don't have that "all-seeing eye."

 

[Cronq]

Deus Ex

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Let's see what Deus Ex 3 does. Deus Ex is like a benchmark for these things. At least when they were called "thinking men's shooters." And maybe Rainbow 6 as well but has that ship departed?

Deus Ex

Ninjaed.

 

[shootthebandit]

Let's see what Deus Ex 3 does. Deus Ex is like a benchmark for these things. At least when they were called "thinking men's shooters." And maybe Rainbow 6 as well but has that ship departed?

i cant wait

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Let's see what Deus Ex 3 does. Deus Ex is like a benchmark for these things. At least when they were called "thinking men's shooters." And maybe Rainbow 6 as well but has that ship departed?

i cant wait

Just play STALKER or something and try not to expect so much.

 

[Palademon]

So, that's a "no" to TimeSplitters 4?

 

[shootthebandit]

So, that's a "no" to TimeSplitters 4?

hell no, TS4 shall be epic

i didnt say i didnt like those type of games, i said that more could be done with the genre

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Try Far Cry 2.

It stacks the odds very much against the player in the first 15 or so hours, you have to be patient and tactical to get anything done as the enemies have superhuman aim.

Pity there's so much driving back and forth between respawning checkpoints, it would have been a great game without those.

 

[Charisma]

you always gotta think about it from a business perspective. games that make people think sell fewer copies. sad but true.

 

[gee666]

Brink, Objective based shooter that rewards team work out in spring 11

Splash damage have a good track record of games that are based around team play

 

[Netrigan]

Gotta say, I love how many fans of shooters today are 12 year old jock frat boys

Shooters tend to be twitch-and-shoot affairs, going back to the Golden Age of arcade games. The FPS genre has been this way ever since Wolfenstein 3D hit the shelves. It's not exactly a new phenomenon (in my day, we had to type our homophobic, sexist, racist insults at the other player, because we didn't have these new fangled microphones making it so damn easy). Intelligent shooters exist, but they tend to be hybrids, such as Deus Ex mixed FPS with RPG elements. They often do pretty well, but the most popular titles are the ones that speak adrenaline fluently.

 

[Mike Laserbeam]

So, that's a "no" to TimeSplitters 4?

hell no, TS4 shall be epic

i didnt say i didnt like those type of games, i said that more could be done with the genre

"Shall"...? I know we've got to keep the faith but... I think "Would" is perhaps more fitting?

I think TimeSplitters 4 could easily be the thinking man's shooter! I mean, I had to think a LOT to get through Robot Factory on hard in TS2!

 

[MikailCaboose]

Well, there's Metroid Prime, but even I don't know whether or not to call it a First Person Adventure game instead. I'm torn for some reason, even though it IS more based around puzzles than even the 2D Metroid games...