what caused raptures demise

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masakoz

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MaxTheReaper said:
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and that pobration isnt really gunna give you a good face hmm probation on a feminist page you must be the most niceist person, i ever met. :)
Right, because I've never been put on probation before.
The other ten people and I who laughed at a joke are clearly ruined forever.

I don't need to be nice - my arguments are sound and don't involve the words "lol," "jack ass" (which is spelled wrong, incidentally,) "ppl," or any number of other things.

And for the love of god, learn to spell already. If you insist on arguing with me, I should at least be able to read what you're saying. I know nine-year-olds who type better than you.
"pobration." Really?
can't reason with a asshole can you but then agian you know all about that dont you
 

Sparrow

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Lack of sunlight. Everyone turned into vampires, and ate each other.

/thread.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
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I surely do.
I learned it from interacting with you.
Good day
this was seprates the socialable from the asshole, you are the asshole and im the socialable. i was trying to have forum post where everyone respected each thought instead of being"hahaha im more smarter then your ass" but trolls cant hold themselfs back can they and im pretty sure 90% of your posts have been trolling by what ive seen today
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
masakoz said:
this was seprates the socialable from the asshole, you are the asshole and im the socialable. i was trying to have forum post where everyone respected each thought instead of being"hahaha im more smarter then your ass" but trolls cant hold themselfs back can they and im pretty sure 90% of your posts have been trolling by what ive seen today
Really? I'm the asshole?
All I did was disagree with your opinion.
Then you put words in my mouth and started calling me names.

I didn't start fighting back until you started it.
So let's tally it up, shall we?
masakoz said:
masakoz said:
masakoz said:
Yeah, I'm the asshole here.
It shows in our respective actions - I'm definitely the one who started the ad hominems.
you started this with your sarcasm for what i said and may i remind you that you called me idoit so you aint no innocoent victim hear
 

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the instability of Plasmids. everyone who used it, used too much of it becuase they got addicted to its properites. and gradualy become homicidaly mutated freaks.
 

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It's said in game . . . The plasmids are unstable leading to physical and mental degradation that is only cured by getting more Adam to re-bolster your genetic structure. So it's like withdrawal caused psychosis. (Remember the ghost sequence with the chick in the bathroom, near the beginning, she was trying to cover up the skin falling off her face with make-up).

That said; people flipped out, need for Adam rose, people's pocket books couldn't keep up with their desire, making them resort to the poor house. Frank Fontaine's poor house.

Fontaine tried to rebel against Ryan many times under many aliases. The most recent was Atlas, this is where Jack comes in.
 

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After Fontaine became Atlas he reached out to the people that "Clean the Toilets" and led a working class rebellion against the powerful rich people. This led to Civil War which led to people become more on edge and splicing up more.

Meanwhile Andrew Ryan was abandoning his beliefs to try and stop Atlas and his gang and thus Rapture all fell apart at the seams.

Other contributing factors are:

1)Leakages not being fixed(Rapture Should have been built like a bathtub for it not to sink, Andrew Ryan wanted a city though)

2)The Little Sister program which stole children
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
masakoz said:
you my friend are the reason the raceist card is still around
...The fuck?

Okay, you...
Just, no. I can't express in words how stupid that was. Never speak to me again.
timmytom1 said:
I bet the papacy would collapse due to a lack of religion

on topic i agree with most posters that a large supply of readily avalible weapons + genetic enhancements+lack of sunlight = trouble
Touche.

I don't get why people are saying the lack of sunlight would cause issues - I've heard of cases where people go made from lack of sun, but I go mad if I'm exposed to it at all.
You guys are just weird.
*shrugs shoulders* just one of those things.....
 

fontlas

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??? It explains it in-game. Through the audio diary and radio messages, the downfall was pretty clear.
 

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Amethyst Wind said:
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Andrew Ryan is an anagram for "New Ayn Rand"
Almost, but there's an R where a N is needed. For it to be an anagram of "New Ayn Rand" his name would have to be Andrew Nyan.
Ah, well. I was relying on the lead designer's interview for that one.
 

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Your mother
what no! dont take offence your mother is just big sister
oh shit so thats the reason shes allways in a scuba suit when shes home !!!!! suprised face
 

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I think they all went mad with the crushing disappointment that no whales or giant squids or cool things like angler fish ever came by the windows.

darthzew said:
I just completed a play-through (on hard with no vita-chambers even!) and I think I can shed some light...

Fontaine shows up and becomes the next big thing in Rapture. He builds a company that winds up bigger and more powerful than Ryan Industries. Eventually, this company, Fontaine Futuristics, invests in the genetic research of one Dr. Tenebaum. She's discovered a sea slug that can secrete stem cells, also known as ADAM. Competition for bigger and better Plasmids breaks out and the heat between Ryan Industries and Fontaine Futuristics only gets worse.

Suddenly, Fontaine winds up dead. Andrew Ryan winds up nationalizing Fontaine Futuristics, which sets angers the populace. Another man, Atlas, takes advantage of this. Eventually, Ryan, who has set himself as governor of Rapture starts wages war on Atlas. The resulting civil war tears Rapture apart. But Ryan winds up briefly the victor. He's gained control of all of the ADAM, which is addicting, and then his Plasmids already have properties that make the people more open to mental suggestion. So, everyone in Rapture who had used ADAM follows Andrew Ryan.

And then that's where you step in.

Put simply, greed. Greed is what killed Rapture.
Wait. A sea slug? Where did you get that?
 

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More Fun To Compute said:
Archeopterix said:
Wait. A sea slug? Where did you get that?
It's the source of all the crazy objectivist super powers according to Tenenbaum's logs.
its what you pull out of the sister when you harvest her dam slugs i knew they were up to something.
i think that it was because there was no video games to let people get there anger,
thank you gta
 

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I think plasmids made people go insane and start to mutate. The splicers in Bioshock 2 look even more mutated and crazed than in the original, due to the passage of time. Also, the way in which Ryan formed Rapture's society (as in belonging to anyone with enough drive to make it their own) probably had something to do with it.