What Did People Not Like About Ang Lee's Hulk?

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I enjoyed Ang Lee's Hulk. I felt it delved deep into the Bruce Banner's psychological issues and how it captured the metaphor for repressed rage bringing destruction and suffering. Eric Bana was perfectly cast and really made feel for the character and the themes of family really tugged at my heartstrings. For those who didn't like it what did you feel the film got wrong? Was it the acting? Poor special effects? Lack of Hulk? Please discuss.
 

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The Hulk itself, for one thing. I've read a lot of people compared it disparagingly to Shrek. I guess the FX in general were poor even by 2003 standards. I remember the dog scene was laughable even back then.
 

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Let's see-
1 It was long, REALLY long. Ok granted it was 2 hours and 18 minutes but given that most of it weren't Hulk busting out, it felt really long. I think it didn't help that the film was just Bruce Banner doing some stuff and exploring his real origin.

2. Not enough Hulk SMASH! Sure he brawl the mutanted dogs, a small army and the villain at the end but it was still lacking.

3. Lack of a proper villain. They pretty much had to combine his dad, the villain as the Absorbing man AND Zzzax! Both of which doesn't match Hulk in terms of brawn.

4. Bad Hulk CGI. He was too clean and smooth looking. At least with Incredible Hulk, they tone down his colour down and added more details!

Just to be clear, this is a guy who had grew up watching the Incredible Hulk cartoon.
 

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It was an arthouse movie using the excuse of a comic book character to justify a big budget being used.

The movie came out long after Spider Man and X Men showed us you could have a movie that was both good and fairly honest to the source material based on comics, yet instead of doing that we got a boring mess of a movie. Now granted Incredible Hulk ended up being boring as well despite being honest to the source material, but it was still a better movie at the end of the day.
 

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Zontar said:
It was an arthouse movie using the excuse of a comic book character to justify a big budget being used.

The movie came out long after Spider Man and X Men showed us you could have a movie that was both good and fairly honest to the source material based on comics, yet instead of doing that we got a boring mess of a movie. Now granted Incredible Hulk ended up being boring as well despite being honest to the source material, but it was still a better movie at the end of the day.
What about it wasn't true to the source material? And it's not like Spider-Man and X-Men weren't different from the comics in their own ways.
 

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I think it's just that the Hulk isn't an interesting enough character to base a full movie on. At least, the stories that studio execs would greenlight a movie based on (read: a dozen rehashes of his origins) aren't enough for a movie. Stop making origin stories and expecting sequels, and make a good movie (that goes for all superhero franchises, really) with a solid story.
 

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1. Bad CGI. Really, really bad.
2. Stupid villains. I mean... Hulk poodles and 'energy man.'
3. Stupid fights.
4. The 'comic book' scenes, where they put multiple video streams up at once, gave me a major headache.
 

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Hulk is a character whose catchphrase is "HULK SMASH!", not "HULK PONDER HIS CONFLICTED BINARY IDENTITY IN FORM OF WEIRD FLASHBACKS AND LONG MOVIE!"
 

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Agent_Z said:
Zontar said:
It was an arthouse movie using the excuse of a comic book character to justify a big budget being used.

The movie came out long after Spider Man and X Men showed us you could have a movie that was both good and fairly honest to the source material based on comics, yet instead of doing that we got a boring mess of a movie. Now granted Incredible Hulk ended up being boring as well despite being honest to the source material, but it was still a better movie at the end of the day.
What about it wasn't true to the source material? And it's not like Spider-Man and X-Men weren't different from the comics in their own ways.
True, but I got the feeling that the tone was radically different. But it still had him smash things enough for it to be the focus of the trailer. Also, I feel it just wasn't well-made. It was just... dull.

One minor detail that bugs me is the way he used comics panels on the screen. It seemed so pointless,

I still thank Allah that, after some deliberation, I went to see Matrix: Reloaded instead of this movie.
 

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Marvel superheros are escapist fantasies and when you try to hang something a little heavier on the framework, it collapses. The average member audience wants to see lots of action and no to much introspection. The studio was hoping for a Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, with enough crossover appeal to get martial arts fans and Ang Lee's art house following in. The Hulk wasn't exoctic enough to bring in the Ang Lee crowd and didn't have enough action to satisfy the superhero fan.
 

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One of the biggest problems is the comic panel style that the movie shoves in your face. It adds nothing and only draws attention to itself, pulling you out of the experience. Something cool will be happening and then some panel thing pops up getting in the way. Ang Lee has a great eye for visuals, so this was just a baffling decision.

The backstory with Banner's dad experimenting on himself which then passed over to his son who then gets into gamma ray accident. You could've omitted that whole thing and just skipped to the gamma rays, there's was no need for some long, overly complicated explaination. What matters is that he becomes the Hulk.

Nearly every scene where characters are interacting with one another is painfully awkward. There's also no on-screen chemistry between Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly. And a lot if not all scenes that are supposed to be serious and dramatic come across as comical. Remember the scene right after Banner's accident where he's spasming in the hospital bed, but it looks so much like he's angrily jerking off? Yeah, stuff like that.

The rest of the issues are tied to the character of the Hulk and are not necessarily the movie's fault, like the lack of a good villain, and the Hulk just not being an interesting enough character to carry a whole movie.

I had no problem with the CGI quality or even the Hulk looking as green as he did. It was mainly the weird puffy boy face he was sporting.

I definitly prefer it over The Incredible Hulk, but then that movie was total garbage. Ang Lee's Hulk at least has some artistic merrit to it. I also liked the Hulk transformations and how he moved. And that first transformation where he's in the lab and just smashing through shit is great.

Overall though, the movie is just an awkward mess.
 

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I only remember the brain hurting that movie caused me. Nothing against Ang Lee but I just didn't like that movie, and my brain rejected that time as a black space in my memory. I much preferred the MCU Hulk movie, even if it wasn't as good as it should have been compared to the rest of the MCU movies. As good an actor as Norton is, Mark Ruffalo makes a helluva better Bruce Banner.
 

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albino boo said:
Marvel superheros are escapist fantasies and when you try to hang something a little heavier on the framework, it collapses. The average member audience wants to see lots of action and no to much introspection. The studio was hoping for a Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, with enough crossover appeal to get martial arts fans and Ang Lee's art house following in. The Hulk wasn't exoctic enough to bring in the Ang Lee crowd and didn't have enough action to satisfy the superhero fan.
I was under the impression that Marvel heroes having dramatic lives and problems we could relate to was their appeal.
 

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For me, it was mainly that the focus of the story was more on him pondering his emotional issues, and trying to justify the transformation (through his father's experimentation on him).

I didn't mind it when I saw it, but it didn't really leave me with the same interest in the world or characters that the X-Men or Spider-Man movies did, and if I'm being honest, the Bill Bixby series did. For a movie about a guy who turns into a natural disaster when he's angry, the movie was slow and boring, and seemed almost ashamed of the source material.
 

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I actually liked the movie; it's not great, but I don't think it's all bad. I found the pacing to be one of the biggest issues: the movie just can't shift into gear, even during big fight scenes.

From a conceptual level, I loved the final boss of the movie: an enemy hulk couldn't punch that fed off of his energy. Too bad it makes for a really bad movie villain. Also, since it was released so close to 9/11, they couldn't show hulk actually killing any military personel: a lot of those weird cgi things were really exaggerated when guys would get up from a smashed tank or a crashed helicopter with no injuries.

It would have made a great comic book, just not a great comic book movie.

captcha: mad science. Couldn't put it better myself.
 

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Funny Story, Ang Lee did all the Mo-cap for the Hulk hence why he doesn't more quite right for being a huge hulking beast.
 

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First, it was way too somber. True, the subject matter doesn't necessarily lend itself to The Avengers style snark and humor. But even The Incredible Hulk with Edward Norton had some funny moments to offset the underlying tragic nature of The Hulk.

Second, the Hulk CGI was really not that great. It didn't really capture the weight and mass of the Hulk and just seemed to "blobby", like this huge green mass of Jell-O bouncing around the screen.

Third, Ang Lee should have let Eric Bana do the Mo-Cap performance of the Hulk. I think that's one reason Ruffalo has been so well received. It lets him add another dimension to both sides of the character.

Shame though. Ang Lee's movie had a lot of great things going for it. I mean come on...Eric Bana as Bruce Banner!?!The casting alone seemed like a gift from destiny...
 

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I don't hate and/or dislike Ang Lee's Hulk... I just can't remember that much about it, even though I've technically seen it more times than The Incredible Hulk... I mean, it tried doing to whole "comic book"-style cinematography, there were too many Hulk-like creatures like the dogs (given how I thought how they got said radiation was stupid at a very "young" age), and the one thing I can guaranteed I'd like from Hulk was the casing of Bruce Banner especially when I compare it to Norton...

Other than that, if only any of the live-action Hulk movies got a better rep... Then, we would of already had Planet Hulk in the MCU!
 
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Can't really say. I was one of those crazy people who actually liked it a lot better than the second Hulk movie.

Maybe I've just gotten bored of the "Hero fights evil version of himself" trope that shows up in just about every superhero movie. Actually, scratch that, I have definitely gotten bored of it. I was bored of it before it was even a trend.