What do y'all think about "ya'll?"

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Harry Mason

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One of the first things I noticed when learning a foreign language for the first time was that there is no functional second person plural in English. Most languages have solid, distinct ways of addressing a group, but English only has "you," which is identical to the singular second person pronoun.

If you were to walk into a room full of people and use the correct grammar to invite them to the mall, you would say "Do you want to come to the mall?" The likely response would be people saying "Wait, which one of us?"

You'd probably say "Do YOU GUYS want to come to the mall," or something to that effect.

When I found out that other languages got to have a way to talk to groups of people, and my native language didn't, I became frustrated. It's a pretty important pronoun to just chalk up to English being wonky.

I approached some friends of mine who are linguists about the silliness of English's shitty second person plural, and they told me that the word "Y'all" was being adopted by a lot of intelligent people for this very reason. Most accepted contractions that we take for granted today started as slang ("I'll," "would've," "you'd," "We're"), so it seemed fairly natural that "y'all" could be adopted to fill this gaping hole in the English language.

The argument for "y'all" is that it's a legitimate contraction of "you all." There is a apostrophe in the proper place and it fits into sentence structure nicely and everything! The thing that sets it apart from other slang like "ain't" is that it is made from real words with correct syntax. "Do you all want to come to the mall?" Is a perfect sentence, so "Do y'all want to come to the mall?" Should also be correct.

So partially to ease the confusion of switching between languages every day, but mostly because I found it interesting, I adopted "y'all" into my vocabulary.

On the one hand, it is EXTREMELY useful in avoiding confusion. I can walk into a room, make eye contact with my buddy and say "Are you coming to the midnight release of Portal 2?" Or look a group and say "Are y'all coming to the midnight release of Portal 2?" and there is never any doubt who I am addressing.

On the other hand, most people who I don't know react by looking at me like I'm some kind of hillbilly and asking me what the hell is wrong with me.

One guy even said "Whull ah dunno, Billy-Jo! 'Re we'uns gon' t' leave righ now? *hyuk*"

I think there is a legitimately useful word that could be a part of English, but most people say there is too much of a redneck stigma attached to it.

What do y'all think?

EDIT: I didn't actually mean to write "ya'll." I fixed my wandering apostrophes throughout the OP.
 

thylasos

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Absolutely... I mean, we used to have thou and you, which still exists, if in slightly altered form, in some dialects of English, but I believe that y'all rings better in modern ears.
 

loc978

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I've never had cause to use it... I really don't see the need to differentiate. Context provides all the meaning a person could need, if they pay attention.
Also, those who do use it tend to use it interchangeably with "you". I've often heard a single person addressed as "y'all". Not fond of the term at all.
 

Chemical Alia

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After learning Chinese, I realized how unnecessary and superfluous lot of the details of English grammar actually are. So much can be understood just by the context of the sentence, and in the case of "you" vs. "you pl." I don't think the distinction is needed.
 

Mr Thin

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I've never had any trouble with this sort of situation, and I think y'all makes you sound like a hillbilly.

Maybe it's just me, but I find that unpleasant.

I suppose it could be treated as a legitimate contraction, but it would take a long, long time for the hillbillyness of it to wear off.

I personally wouldn't use it, even if they stuck it in a dictionary and made it official or whatever.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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I already use it for the reasons provided in the OP. Plus, I live in Kentucky. It is pretty normal.
 

MikailCaboose

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Mr Thin said:
I've never had any trouble with this sort of situation, and I think y'all makes you sound like a hillbilly.

Maybe it's just me, but I find that unpleasant.

I suppose it could be treated as a legitimate contraction, but it would take a long, long time for the hillbillyness of it to wear off.

I personally wouldn't use it, even if they stuck it in a dictionary and made it official or whatever.
Indeed. It just feels...lazy.
 

mireko

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I want to adopt y'all, but I don't live in an English-speaking country.

[small]In case you're wondering, Gemini from Sakura Wars makes that pronoun wonderful. I used to dislike it, but I'm cool with it now. Cute girls in video games change the way I perceive the world. IS THAT SO WRONG?[/small]
 

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It isn't shorthand for "you all"? Shocking.

It's just how I speak. I don't write it that way unless it's dialog and the speaker is a monkey.
 

Thaluikhain

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What's wrong with "yous" or "youse"? "You" + "s" to indicate plural.

I've seen it spelt "youx", but that's a bit wankery.
 

holy_secret

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I don't understand why you just don't start using Thou and You like they are supposed to.

y'all looks funny. But I don't know how I would do if I wanted to be really specific about who I'm talking to. Looks hill-billyisch for some reason. Why? I'm Swedish, I shouldn't really have an opinion about it.
Oh well...*thinks*
I'd say "you guys" for the second person plural, and "you" for the second person singular, only for emphasis though.

RedEyesBlackGamer said:
I already use it for the reasons provided in the OP. Plus, I live in Kentucky. It is pretty normal.
Thou again. Hmm...*suspicious*
 

Stalk3rchief

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Well, I was born in the South, so Y'all is right up there with Howdy on words that I casually use and don't think twice about. It's not a Hill Billy Word, not in my opinion anyways. I'm all for it, although I doubt there are many people who will take the word seriously. The word is pretty much synonymous with slow the southerner stereotype.
 

MasterOfWorlds

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I hate the word. I detest it with the very fabric of my being. I'm not entirely sure why.

I use "ain't" occasionally, but that's just because I'm from the South. Luckily not too many people where I live say "ya'll" so I don't have to twitch too often. My gf's dad says it every so often though, but I think it's just to annoy me since he doesn't like me. XD
 

Paksenarrion

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I wasn't born in the South, but my bf apparently gets a kick out of me saying "Y'all" whenever I'm wearing denim short shorts and a plaid button down shirt tied around my midriff.

The strangest part: I don't own denim short shorts or a plaid button down shirt.

He bought them for me. <_<
 

Buzz Killington_v1legacy

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The thing is, back about a thousand years ago, English used to distinguish between you-singular, you-dual (i.e., you and one other person), and you-plural. English gradually lost the dual number, and you gradually became used for all forms of the second person (except the possessive).
 

wizzerd229

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the only reason i use, and will continue to use y'all is it is part of my southern culture
 

BlackEagle95

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Southern U.S, so yes I use y'all every day of my life. I'm not country, unless Miami is backwoods, so I've never had a problem with it. The only time I've seen anyone surprised or caught off guard by it is when i went to new jersey one summer. Between that and 'finna"(going to, "I'm finna to home" etc.) everyone else was lost. I see no problem with it, use it or not. Most already know what it means.
 

eels05

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Is 'everyone' coming to the midnight release of Portal 2.
That works.
Y'all can be used to address individuals as well cant it?