What historical famous person do you hate?

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Sonofadiddly

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Anyone who was held up as a hero during my elementary school years who I found out was actually a total prick. Christopher Columbus is a great example of this.

Don't blame poor Einstein for the atomic bomb. Someone would have invented it if he hadn't. Namely the Germans. And he at least regretted his actions. Not like Columbus. That prick.
 

Nwabudike Morgan

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Fanusc101 said:
Hilter. He was, to say it lightly, the worst human being to ever live.
As bad as Hitler was, he never threw a lavish nighttime garden party lit by people who were being burned alive, like Nero did.

Also, Nero had the douchiest last words in human history: "What an artist dies in me."
 

Furioso

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I say Christopher Columbus, if you do not know why take the time to research him, he wasn't exactly "kind" to the natives he met
 

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dfcrackhead said:
George Washington....See my post entitled "Your History Teacher is a damn liar" for reference as to why.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.154522 for those who are interested
The fact that you quote wikipedia makes your entire arguement invalid, find a more trustworthy source
 

likalaruku

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Roman emperor Constantine I. There are probably more, but I remember particularly disliking him & particularly enjoying Alexander the Great.
 

FluffyNeurosis

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Jimmy Carter.

I don't hate Jackson but his hostility to the federal bank should disqualify him from being on the $20
 

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Andy Warhol, for enabling an entire generation of would-be artists who decided that they could pick something up at the local dump, slap a coy title on it and call it a masterpiece. Seriously New York Metropolitan Museum of Art: Oak Tree? It's a fucking glass of water... Literally!!

Nothing against the man himself of course, modern 'art' just irritates me in a way inexplicable
 

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Samcanuck said:
Mechanix said:
Back in the days, what are some very famous people, those that stand out, do you hate?

For me, I just can't stand General George Patton. The guy is a total prick and one of the most closed-minded people ever to exist. He would kick soldiers out of hospitals for shell shock, because he didn't understand that not everyone loved war and killing Germans like him. He lived for war, nothing else was interesting to him. That's a pretty sick person in my book. This would never be tolerated in today's military.

He even made some dumb speech, which is probably the most unmotivating speech I've ever read. It basically said "You are all here to fight, and kill krauts. You will do this without question. Go do it, sons-of-bitches." Gee, thanks George, that sure motivated the troops. That they are just slaves here to do your dirty work, awesome.
Okay look, most people are going to say Hitler right? This I don't get. Didn't Stalin have over 3 times killed in his Gulag's by overworking them? You know, the whole making the horse into glue after breaking him in Animal Farm by Orsen Wells. So why does everyone say Hitler? I mean, I'll give him #2 spot...but the worst. By pure numbers....hands down. And if you don't think it was partly due to racism, look at how many Ukranians were killed.

Different forms of torture used in either case...but torture, death, mass and selective killings and the destruction of the history of many families existance. Lots more people got these same treatments...thats pretty bad.
Well you'd say Hitler too if you were Jewish...

If I had to count out mass-murderers, I'd probably go with Martin Luther (NOT MLK). The guy was an insane little racist.
 

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I think it was Woodrow Wilson who was supposedly so great but was actually a racist and sexist. I'll look it up later, maybe update this post.
 

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Crazzee said:
I think it was Woodrow Wilson who was supposedly so great but was actually a racist and sexist. I'll look it up later, maybe update this post.
I don't know who could possibly think Woodrow Wilson was great.
 

RedRockRun

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Ford and Edison: Nazi-loving bastards. Well I don't know about Edison, but he was still an antisemitic piece of trash and a hack scientist.

Nicola Tesla was 10 times the genius he ever was.
 

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Samcanuck said:
No...Stalin just ushered in the actual Cold War...which If I'm not mistaken, we still suffer from today.

What can you see in direct consequence due to only Hitler, since Stalin and Hitler had an arms race during the prewar crisis of WW2. It was Hitlers desire to take out Sadam first that began his invasion of Czechoslavakia (just as much as the rineland to conflict a two prong war)...Both people impacted the pre WW2 and WW2 era since both the Gulag killings and holocaust happened at the same time (but Stalin killed OVER 3 times). Within that each share the consequence of the Cold war, though Stalin had an active role DURING the Cold war. Only thing I can see Hilter had a direct connection with that Saddam didn't is the Palistien/Israeli conflict.

So in a way...yes...Stalin did help usher in the biggest war in modern history by pushing Hitlers war train. EDIT:and pushing his own war train...not to mention his invasions and creating of the iron curtian...how many died because of that?

Plus over three times the torture deaths.
Stalin didn't single-handedly usher in the Cold War, the Cold War was the result of growing tensions between the Soviet Union and the United States that began in World War 2, don't put the blame soley on the Soviets, because that's ignorant. And why are you talking about Hitler's desire to take out "Sadam"? And what the fuck do you mean "just as much as the rhineland to conflict a two prong war"? What the hell does that even mean? And the Gulags weren't "killing camps", they were labour camps. The concentration camps, on the other hand, in the latter days of World War 2, were full-blown death camps - the Holocaust is so significant because of how methodical and meticulous it was; deaths on account of Stalin's policies were often just byproducts of his policies - in the case of Hitler, the death of the Jews and other groups WAS the policy. Sure, Stalin did order the deaths of many people, but nothing on the scale of the Holocaust. And no, Stalin didn't have much of an active role during the Cold War - Stalin died in 1953, long before the Cold War really "took off". Sure, he was active in its beginnings, but the hottest points of the Cold War didn't really occur until the early 60s, and the 80s with Reagen.

Oh, and I don't know what this "arms race" was that apparently took place between Hitler and Stalin in the lead up to World War 2 - you are aware that in 1938 Stalin had almost every single leader in the Soviet army killed, right? Stalin was by no means active in ANY kind of arms race, I have no idea where you're getting this information; Stalin was fully convinced that Hitler would NOT invade the USSR (as indicated by the Nazi-Soviet pact of 1938), and the Soviet army was relatively primative in its technology up until 1942-1943, when the Nazi invasion of the USSR forced them to shape-up. Also, please be aware that Stalin's "creaton" of the iron curtain, as you put it, was not intentional. The iron curtain (a term coined by Winston Churchill, btw, after WW2) was a direct result of World War 2, which was, and I am willing to defend this point, ENTIRELY Hitler's and Nazi Germany's fault. The people who died to "create" the iron curtain were pretty much all Nazis, by the way (at least in its original form following the end of World War 2).

And finally, "Only thing I can see Hitler had a direct connection with that Saddam (do you mean Stalin?) didn't is the Palistien/Israeli conflict"? What the fuck? Hitler didn't have a connection with that at all.... Israel wasn't even a state when Hitler was around.
 

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Reagan, a popular idiot who was fucking retarded. Seriously, a "star wars defense program"? And the guy is still hailed as a genius hero politician today, "the next Reagan" is supposed to a compliment? WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE. Bringing me to my next point, conservative talk show hosts that exist only to make money and ruin their party.

Oh and probably Euclid thanks to 8th grade Geometry.
 

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Mechanix said:
Back in the days, what are some very famous people, those that stand out, do you hate?

For me, I just can't stand General George Patton. The guy is a total prick and one of the most closed-minded people ever to exist. He would kick soldiers out of hospitals for shell shock, because he didn't understand that not everyone loved war and killing Germans like him. He lived for war, nothing else was interesting to him. That's a pretty sick person in my book. This would never be tolerated in today's military.

He even made some dumb speech, which is probably the most unmotivating speech I've ever read. It basically said "You are all here to fight, and kill krauts. You will do this without question. Go do it, sons-of-bitches." Gee, thanks George, that sure motivated the troops. That they are just slaves here to do your dirty work, awesome.
You know what is awesome about this. I am the community manager for a game and my GM name is Patton.

I act psychotic and talk about kittens and explosive. I never realized how close I was to the actual person. I just kind of made up how I figured he acted (with no evidence or knowledge beforehand) given that his name was Patton.

I mean...damn...Patton?

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I know most folks say Hitler. But to me that is an easy out. He was a mentally unstable person put in a position of great power. I don't really see how hating him is all that meaningful. Great you hate handicapped people. Congratulations. I'd be more apt at using him as a great life lesson on just how far people will go if taken to the edges of survivability. When you see you might not be able to feed your children because of what outsiders have done to your country...killing innocents starts to not look so bad. I'm of course talking about the people who had nothing to do with world war I yet suffered the aftermath as Germany was drained of every last ounce of wealth.

I'm not sure why folks don't hate everyone that played a part in making a Hitler. Because it isn't all that hard.

Take any nation, remove all the wealth, and add time. It doesn't take very long either. If they have enough centralized stability to maintain some sort of leadership the leadership will come and it'll be harsh. Every tongue is silver when you are starving.

As for me...who do I hate? Nobody really. Once you are dead you are dead. Probably anyone who was the foundation for a religion if I had to pick. But frankly if it wasn't them it would have been someone else.

As I said. Every tongue is silver...

Purple Shrimp said:
Did Stalin start the biggest war in modern history that resulted in huge political tensions in Europe over 60 years after its end and ushered in the Cold War?
I just kind of wanted to quote this since it was relevant to what I just said. People give Hitler too much credit. It took way more than just one man to do what was done. Took quite a few nations run by fools as well.