What is the BEST Final Fantasu?

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TristanBelmont

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The weird title should say it all. I've often heard it comes down to FF6 or 3/4.

Let me know, tell me about which Final Fantasy game you think is the best.

Also, do any of the FF games on the mobile devices play well? Got a plane ride in a while...>_<
 

Tanis

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May want to edit that title of yours...
FF1 is like the original Mario game.
It's VERY basic, and you almost had to 'be there' to really appreciate it.

FF2 tried hard, but fell on its face combat/leveling wise.
The story is okay, though the ending makes up for it.

FF3 is the first time a true 'job system' was done in the series, but it's still a joy to use.
Though, the story is a step BACK from FF2.

FF4 is another good one, though it does feel REALLY basic when compared to other games.
It's really a 'pure' FF experience.

FF5 has a solid plot, characters, and a far better job system than FF3.
It's worth it for the game play, thought I'd suggest using some kind of cheat to level up faster.

FF6 is a classic, it's just a great game like Super Mario 3/World or *insert classic Zelda here*.
The characters, the combat, dat music, and the plot.
Even the graphic still hold up.

FF:Mystic Quest is..special.
Not bad, not good, just...'special'.

FFT is also pretty good, though it does lose some of its luster after you played Tactic Ogre.

FF7 is over-hyped, overrated, and may very well feature some of the worst leads in all of FF.
Right up there with FF13.
Though, the combat IS sound, and the OST is decent.

FF8 gets a LOT of hate, but I personally enjoyed it.
The music is some of THE best in the series, and I dug most of the story.
Plus, for a PS1 game, the graphics hold up rather well.

FF:Chocobo Racing is REALLY fun, but the control are a bit..loose.

FF9 is the 'forgotten' FF.
It's a solid, all around, JRPG with some good characters and story.

FF10 has grown on me.
The OST is nice, most of the characters are okay, and I like the overall plot and atheistic.
The game play is fine.

FF10-2 gets a LOT of shit, given it ruined the ending of FF10 and went full of 'Charlie's Angels' at times.
BUT!!! The GAME PLAY is some of the BEST in the series, even beyond the series, and the OST (mostly recycled from FF10) is still pretty good.

FF11+Expansions is an MMO.
Screw it.

FF12 is like FF2.
It's got some GREAT ideas, but the execution was...less than the best.
Though one of the MAIN issues is that there's SO MUCH TO DO...and that ends up detracting from a pretty good 'Star Wars: FF' plot.

FF13 feels like a 40 hour long slog tutorial for the next game.
Use Wiki to read about the plot so you can get to the only 'good' FF13 game.

FF13-2 isn't that bad, better game play than FF13 and 13-3, with a weird ass plot.

FF13-3 is it really an FF game, or is it something..else?

FF14 is a MMO.
Screw it.

FFTA/TA2 are both solid games, though TA2 has the better combat while TA has the better story.

The whole FF:Legends series is actually the SaGa series, so...yeah.

I'm missing a LOT of them, but...it's late.
 

Olrod

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Bravely Default is a pretty good Final Fantasy game.

Along with Final Fantasy V, Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy X-2.
 

Rozalia1

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Final Fantasy 9 is the best. Last "medieval" Final Fantasy which improved on those in that setting that came before, and that had tons of charm to it.

Tanis said:
FF5 has a solid plot, characters, and a far better job system than FF3.
It's worth it for the game play, thought I'd suggest using some kind of cheat to level up faster.
Some translations are better than others from what I've heard, don't know myself as I didn't play the releases.
 

StriderShinryu

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While my own personal favourite varies between FF4 and FF6, I would say FF6 is easily the best FF game, pretty much hands down.
 

Jandau

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FF6 is the best of the "old" FF games and arguably the best overall, with a great story, interesting characters, solid classic gameplay and beautiful visuals from the peak of pixel art era.

FF7 is IMO overrated. I always felt that it just happened to be at the right place at the right time, but on its own it's fairly unremarkable. Also, it's aged pretty badly, like pretty much everything from the early days of 3D (you know, before we invented TEXTURES). But it's worth the look, if only as a piece of gaming history.

FF8 is garbage. I know many people like it, but to me the story was atrocious, the characters were a bunch of annoying pricks and the game mechanics were ass backwards. Wouldn't recommend, unless you just happen to think Squall is dreamy...

FF9 is a beautiful game. It's sad that it went largely unnoticed. It's got a wonderful story with a slight fairy tale sensibility to it, an innocence if you will. Gameplay is oldschool in a good way, rock solid and classic. In general FF9 was a return to the old ways after various thematic and gameplay experiments in 7 & 8. It's also the last game in the series to really have that feel to it. It's my personal favourite.

I'm actually playing FF13 at the moment. I understand why people give it so much shit, but it's not really deserving of a lot of it. It's got a good story, interesting characters with actual character arcs and development, there are some fascinating themes in it. The combat gameplay is also a bit of a departure, but fun when you start to work out how it operates. However, the problem is that the whole thing is poorly paced and in general, the overall framework in which the story and the combat is placed just isn't very good. I'm sticking with it for the good parts and it's worth it, though it really is a gem in the rough.
FF13 is a very linear game. As in, straight corridors with minor departures. And then, about 20-25 hours into the game, you get to a wide open area. Hell, not one area, several of them, full of secret loot, sidequests, roaming monsters, etc. Dream come true, right? Finally free, yes? NOPE! Turns out this is the post-endgame zone. Most monsters will one-shot you. You're supposed to skulk around the edges of the map, maybe fight a few of the weaker enemies and be about your business. And the game doesn't really tell you this. It just lets you bang your head on enemies waaaay out of your league until you figure it out.

Also worth mentioning is FF14. Mostly when this game is mentioned I see people saying "It's an MMO. Fuck that!". And yes, it IS an MMO and I understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea. But it's a REALLY GOOD MMO! Seriously, it's pretty damn nice, with solid (if a bit generic) gameplay, good visuals, solid story, nice atmosphere. Very casual friendly, good framework for teaching new players, nice difficulty curve. Hell, the only complaint might be that it doesn't cater enough to the hardcore crowd. Add to this that the game gets free content updates every few months (new dungeons, quests, etc.) and has a promising expansion coming next spring, it's a solid alternative to WoW.
 

Rayce Archer

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I thought that title was a portmanteau of "Final Fantasy" and "pantsu," as in "which Final Fantasy game has the best panty shots?" To which I guess I would say A Realm Reborn is pretty panty-tastic.
 

CrystalShadow

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I guess it depends on when you got into it.

I'd say from what I've experienced of it, it peaked at Final Fantasy 6...

Then again I tended to prefer other RPG's, even considering the 2d SNES style ones... (My personal favourites being Terranigma and Chrono Trigger)
 

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Tanis said:
May want to edit that title of yours...
No, I like it the way it is!

OP: Anyone who's read my posts in these threads will know that my answer is IX, always IX.

I've replayed regularly since the first time I played it over a decade ago. It's my favourite game of all time. I love the story, the characters, the music, the gameplay, the mini-games (yes, even the card game)... I know that game so well.


The only way I think I could love another Final Fantasy release more would be if they re-released IX exactly as it is but I got free chocolate with the game.
 

CannibalCorpses

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Hrmmm...

1-4 are pretty poor, 5 + 6 were good, 7 is great, 8 is weak, 9 is annoying as hell (fuck that card game!), 10 is my favourite (blitzball all the way!), 12 is odd, 13 is a boring disaster.

I have a love hate relationship with Final fantasy...i thought upto 7 all was great (in context of when they were released) but then it took a big dive with 8 and then 9 was pretty poor aswell. I think the lack of hype i placed on it made 10 a much better game and it still stands as the only game i've gone out and bought an official guide for. 12 was...probably the end for me and 13 was so bad that i gave up buying games from squeenix because i played about 5 games from them and they were all bad
 

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The best classic FF games are 4,5,6 with 6 being the most well-rounded and complete package imho.

FF7 is basically an interactive movie, FF8 has interesting though extremely grindy system with horrible characters and story that seems forced. I like FF9 except for the lead character, who is an annoying furry. FF10, couldnt get into it. I find Tidus and his laugh moronic. I wish he stayed dead. he he he. I'm skipping the MMOs. I'm still on the fence with FF12 and 13 since I havent played them extensively yet.
 

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Final Fantasy Tactics (especially the 'War Of The Lions' version) is far and away the best.

Other than that.
Eh.
FF6 is solid.

FF7 is more or less just a stupidly overrated rehash of FF6's story stuff. Interactive movie BS is a good way to put it.

FF10 is overrated too. It's just....mindnumbing...


Stick with Tactics and 6.

I recommend Suikoden II.
or Xenogears.
 

Kinitawowi

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Rayce Archer said:
I thought that title was a portmanteau of "Final Fantasy" and "pantsu," as in "which Final Fantasy game has the best panty shots?" To which I guess I would say A Realm Reborn is pretty panty-tastic.
Um... FFX-2 and Scan Lv. 3 would like a word. ;-)

FF9 wins this thread; it gets better every time I play it (while FF7 gets worse).
 

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Final Fantasy 4 and 6 to 10 are the ones for me. The newer ones are OK, but loose a lot of the FF appeal because of uninvolving stories.

'Lost Odyssey' on the 360 is the last great FF for me. Yeah, it's been developed by a different company, but... just look at the credits.

If you're interested in classic RPGs you should check out Xenogears (Xenosaga 1-3 if you like it), Chrono Cross, Suikoden 2 and Wild Arms 2.
 

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RavingSturm said:
(...) FF8 has interesting though extremely grindy system with horrible characters and story that seems forced. (...)
I am not going to say anything about the characters or the story because it's subjective (though I am mildly disapproving of your flat-out statements for the same reason), but "grindy"? FF8, the game where you can max out your characters in about three hours on Disc 1 with the right junctions and spells and then play the rest of the game with the random encounters turned off? Really?
 

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It's always gonna be subjective, but most people consider FF6 to FF9 the "golden age" of Final Fantasy. Each one offered new, groundbreaking ideas for the series if not the entire genre, and each were immensely popular at the time - with the exception of 9, which was released so close to the end of that console's life (and FFX's launch) that it went mostly under the radar.

Hipsters like hating on 7 because it scores them wicked internet points, but it's typically regarded as the most solid all-around. The graphics (for the time) were outstanding, the story surrounding cloud and the build-up to the final confrontation is literally unmatched in the rest of the series. Materia is one of the best combat customization systems in the series (tied with GF/junctioning in 8), and the OST is phenomenal. Because it's the best one, it got a ton of modding support, and you can completely overhaul your game (google "tifa's bootleg mod pack") to improve the resolution, use custom graphics and sprites for weapons and characters, and load custom soundtracks in based on preference. It's pretty mindblowing. If you want to experience 7 as it was at launch, you can pick it up from steam and just play it through. But if you want a pretty damn polished game that still (roughly) holds up, definitely look into modding it.

6 is a simpler game from a simpler time. It's still got characters, and it's one of the first Final Fantasies to put *a lot* of emphasis on them. Optional characters abound, and you can learn a ton about your favorites through detailed backstories in side areas. Unfortunately, a lot of the characters are stock archetypes, including the villain, and that comes across a little cheesy and over-dramatic in some sections. The combat is restrictive for most of the game, and some characters get to use "abilities" that make them incredible for certain sections (gau is amazing early on, for example, and he can start dealing massive aoe hits before anyone else can, but he quickly becomes pointless as the other characters catch up and pass him by). The soundtrack is great, as always, featuring the single best Final Fantasy song by far [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2f-SeMxpkE] and a strong contender for the best video game song ever. Definitely worth a playthrough, although certain elements are guaranteed to get on your tits.

8 is a contentious one - it's the first one in the main series to deviate from a direct save the world plot, focusing mainly on a love story. It evolves from that, as it obviously must, and expands to contain a very colorful cast of memorable characters and quite stunning FMVs. The soundtrack is great (recurring theme; Nobuo Uematsu is a god among composers), and the combat customization is on par with FF7's (far and away better than most games in the series). The plot of 8 is its weakest point, however - it becomes a confusing mess around halfway through and never really recovers. The rest is generally good enough to keep your interest throughout the remainder of the game, though. 8 also gets a special mention for Triple Triad, which is one of the most baller minigames in any game (and especially in Final Fantasy).

9 is often overlooked - unlike 6, 7, and 8 it didn't do anything to expand the genre or bring new things into the mix, it was simply a retread of older ideas that had proved popular. The characters are fun, the setting is great, the music is... alright (not as good as previous 3, unfortunately). I would recommend it after any of the others that precede it.

10 is where things start to go downhill - graphics and voice acting were focused on at the cost of characters, story and gameplay. The free-roaming world is sacrificed for a linear hallway, and majestic airships are replaced by a drop-down menu where you can teleport from place to place. Voice acting is introduced and serves absolutely no purpose, often detracting from the quality of the game instead of enhancing characters. Only a couple characters had VAs that matched them, and the rest were an absolute trainwreck (looking at you, Yuna). Would not recommend as a starting point of the series, although it's "a better game" than the super early ones. It's also got a pretty coherent anti-religion theme, which is bonus points from me, but the rest of the game wasn't quite up to snuff.

Past that isn't worth mentioning. Two bad MMOs don't even need to be touched on, and 12 and 13 have the same problem 10 did, just worse - unlikeable characters, blander story, less active combat driven by AI party members, and bad voice acting. 15 is ditching the linear hallway bullshit to go open world again, so it has the potential to regain some of the glory that's been lost over the last decade or so of bad, bland Final Fantasies.

On that topic, though, the super early ones aren't worth your time. 1 is the definition of generic and barely has a story at all (and literally no characterization), 2 is awful and has one of the most useless and counterintuitive upgrade systems of any game ever, 3 is basically 1 again but with more classes, 4 is the first one to feature characters with personality and what could even be considered a "character arc" (none of it is all that great though), and 5 is... halfway between 4 and 6. It's got characters, some are neat, they tend to be focused on more than in previous titles but not as much as in 6. It's an alright game; if you really, really loved Final Fantasy 6-8 and played 9 and 10 as well, 5 is probably your next stop.

For the first game in the series to play, pick from 6-8 though. They've all got heavy emphasis on characterization, exploration and backstory. Combat in 7/8 is better than in 6. Music is pretty great regardless of your pick. 7 and 8 are available on steam, 6 had a great GBA port floating around if you still have one of those (or, yknow, a computer). All pretty easy to pick up and enjoy.

Real talk, though, 7 is the best one. It has plot holes, it has weaknesses, but realistically, every game does; 7's are pretty minor if you start comparing them to other games in the series. It does more things better than most of the other games in the series, and its twists and its villain were so groundbreaking that they're still iconic today, even to people who've never played them. Sorry fanbois of 6, but nobody really gives a shit about kefka or locke 20 years later :(
 

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RavingSturm said:
FF8 has interesting though extremely grindy system with horrible characters and story that seems forced.
Not even gonna touch on the story elements, but... grindy? Did you play the same FF8 I did? The one where you can choose not to have random encounters? The one where you can literally stop leveling any time you want to? The one where monsters scale to your level, so you can beat the game at any level? The one where you can turn items into other items, items into spells, and cards into items at will, making it relatively easy to acquire what would normally be a difficult thing to get?

You can play through the entire game without stopping to grind once. It's one of the only final fantasies where that's true. 8 has many problems, but grindiness is not one.
 

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AuronFtw said:
RavingSturm said:
FF8 has interesting though extremely grindy system with horrible characters and story that seems forced.
Not even gonna touch on the story elements, but... grindy? Did you play the same FF8 I did? The one where you can choose not to have random encounters? The one where you can literally stop leveling any time you want to? The one where monsters scale to your level, so you can beat the game at any level? The one where you can turn items into other items, items into spells, and cards into items at will, making it relatively easy to acquire what would normally be a difficult thing to get?

You can play through the entire game without stopping to grind once. It's one of the only final fantasies where that's true. 8 has many problems, but grindiness is not one.
sorry but it is grindy. You get to transmog later but at the start you just keep drawing magic. Also dynamic monster leveling makes maxing out kinda pointless.
 

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Tanis said:
I agree with you on most of your argument, except I'd also say that FF7 had really nice character designs.

OT: I'd argue that there is no BEST FF game, because everyone has different tastes.
But if you were to ask me which ones are my favourites I'd say Part X, Part VI and Part V.