What to buy??

[Judilee Christian Ang]

Okay, first of all, I am a noobie at computer so if you can please don't use terms that is hard to understand. Thanks

So, I have 2 choices it's either a laptop and a PS4
I'm gonna use the laptop for basically everything (Games, projects, Entertainment, etc.)
It's this laptop: http://www8.hp.com/sa/en/products/laptops/product-detai...
It costs 1,124$ and I it fits my budget
Games I play are: MInecraft, OSU!, CS:GO (Gonna buy NBA 2K15 and FIFA 15)

PS4
So, this is just for playing I guess...
The only games I'll really pay are really just NBA, FIFA, And GTA V when it comes out
Maybe some games if I find them interesting
The PS4 costs 474$ (If I did the math properly)
The games costs alittle bit tho.

So I just really can't make up my mind with what to buy.
If you guys can help me it would make me a happy boy! =D
Once again,I'm a noob, so if you can keep the answers as simple as you can that would help too.
Thanks
And no, I will not be building a gaming PC

 

[DoPo]

It's this laptop: http://www8.hp.com/sa/en/products/laptops/product-detai...

Link is incomplete

OSU!

What is OSU!? I mean, I understand it's an acronym but I don't recognise it.

 

[Judilee Christian Ang]

http://www8.hp.com/sa/en/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=7179038
Osu is a rhythm game

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Laptops don't make for exceptionally good gaming platforms, they come with very basic microprocessors and tend to overheat. Mind you, I can run Firefall on a 2012 laptop, but there're a lot of snags. I would go with the PS4.

 

[Judilee Christian Ang]

One question though, is the laptop worth for 1124$? Because I chose to go with a laptop and I don't really know if the laptop's worth or if I should find another one

 

[Vigormortis]

Laptops don't make for exceptionally good gaming platforms, they come with very basic microprocessors and tend to overheat. Mind you, I can run Firefall on a 2012 laptop, but there're a lot of snags. I would go with the PS4.

Uh...that's...entirely dependent on the laptop, though. Suggesting the OP go for a PS4 just because some laptops don't make decent gaming machines doesn't make much sense. Especially since the OP seems to want more out of the choice than just a gaming machine.

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My suggestion is, go for the laptop. It'll provide more options for both gaming and productivity, and it seems it has a larger library of titles you already know you'll want to play.

However, provided mobility isn't a factor (considering a console is one of the options, I'm assuming it's not) I suggest a desktop instead. I know you said you would rather not build one, but in the end you'll get far more bang for your buck. You'll be able to get equivalent hardware to the laptop, or better, for far less money.

But, if you're dead-set against that idea, I completely understand.

That said, consider doing a bit of research on the games available for the PS4. If you find enough that may interest you, and you don't mind losing the productivity inherent in the laptop, you might want to consider the PS4. Also consider which of your friends game on each respective platform. Having people to play with online will add to the experience, assuming you want to game online, of course. Also bare in mind that you must pay a monthly subscription to play on the PSN network whereas it's usually free on PC/laptop. (In most instances)

 

[Vigormortis]

One question though, is the laptop worth for 1124$? Because I chose to go with a laptop and I don't really know if the laptop's worth or if I should find another one

For the most part, yes. Laptops are almost always inherently more expensive than they need be, but that's just par for the course. It's a good CPU and GPU. It's above adequate RAM and storage.

Granted, you may not be maxing every game ever, but then....even the new consoles can barely run newer games on settings equivalent to medium-to-high, so...

You'll be fine.

Oh, might I suggest you remove some of the pre-installed bloatware upon getting the laptop. It'll help the system run much smoother.

 

[Judilee Christian Ang]

So... I'm guessing it's worth? I don't really need games on the highest settings. Just the mid range. If I can run a smooth 40 or 30 (Maybe even 50) on CS:GO then it'll be fine for me.

 

[Vigormortis]

So... I'm guessing it's worth? I don't really need games on the highest settings. Just the mid range. If I can run a smooth 40 or 30 (Maybe even 50) on CS:GO then it'll be fine for me.

You could run CS:GO on a potato, honestly. It uses a slightly older build of Source, so it's not really dependent on high-end hardware.

You should have no trouble running the game at a stable 60fps.

 

[Guffe]

If those are the only type of games you intend to play on the PS4, then I'd get a proper stationary computer and buy either a PS4 or Xbox controller with an adapter to PC (aren't all controllers already today?) and buy the FIFA/NBA/etc for PC in stead.
For me 1000 dollars for a laptop is insane :/
I bought my laptop in 2012 for 600? and it's working just fine, I don't game on it too much, some League of Legends and Hearthstone mainly. Then everytime I want to replay WarcraftIII, but that game is like ancient ;D

 

[Itdoesthatsometimes]

Is there any way you would consider getting a cheaper computer and the PS4?

That computer sounds like more than you need in my opinion. It seems to me that you are not going to need the Intel I7, or the 16GBs of RAM. The price of the computer sounds a little high. But overall not too outlandish for what it has. I am guessing you want the I7, because you fear that your purchase will become outdated very soon?

The truth being that this computer is already outdated while at the same time not going to become outdated any time soon.

What I mean by it is outdated is it does not have a solid state drive.

The good news, is that the RAM, Graphics Card, and processor are going to work perfectly well for the next 6 years. Any improvements on these fronts will be marginal (IMHO).

For what you stated that you want to do with the computer I would suggest.
Solid state drive
Intel I5, or even an I3-and AMD processors are usually less expensive
8GBs of RAM is all that you will need on a casual PC for the next few years

If you have your heart set on that computer though, sorry to have interjected.

 

[Judilee Christian Ang]

The reasons why I really don't want to build a gaming PC are these:
1. No stores sell parts in Riyadh (Not gonna buy something online)
2. No idea how to put them together
3. Small table
4. My family prefers laptops over dekstops.

 

[TheArcaneThinker]

Dont buy a laptop !
Buy a PC !
Its much better ! Get a small compact one , little screen , keyboard , etc.

 

[Judilee Christian Ang]

I found a new laptop, it's cheaper but I dunno if it's worth the lesser money.
http://www.toshibamea.com/ComputerProduct/4/Satellite_S50t-B950/53053?pageid=4
I kinda want the HP one more but I'm not a computer pro I guess. So I really dunno if it's worth or not

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Depends on what you want. PS4 is for gaming. A laptop can play some games but can go the internet etc. They are two different things and are dependent on what you need.

 

[Itdoesthatsometimes]

I found a new laptop, it's cheaper but I dunno if it's worth the lesser money.
http://www.toshibamea.com/ComputerProduct/4/Satellite_S50t-B950/53053?pageid=4
I kinda want the HP one more but I'm not a computer pro I guess. So I really dunno if it's worth or not

The first computer you posted will handle new games better.

The second will boot up faster.

Which one of those is more important to you will be the deciding factor along with money considerations.

I am still think that both computers are more than you will need.

And though the Toshiba has a hybrid SSD drive. The only thing that 8GBs will get you is Windows being faster-faster boot time really. But if you are not that into newer games, faster boot up time and less expensive would be a good choice.

 

[mParadox]

Why not this one?

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/y-series/y50/

It's a gaming laptop. People can groan at that term all they want but when it comes to 'gaming, at least these things deliver. Plus, it's only 5 dollars more than what you're willing to pay for 1st choice.

[sub]Also, pretty red keyboard[/sub]

 

[Mr.Savage]

You seem to be choosing your laptop seemingly at random. I know you said you don't know much about computers, but when it comes to dropping this type of money on one, you should REALLY do some light or medium research on the subject to educate yourself. Just watching or reading a few reviews on laptops available in your area would be massively in your benefit.

Also, do you already have a computer that does all your computer based needs fine, and just want a new device that is capable of gaming?

If so, the PS4 wouldn't be a bad choice.

If not, have you tried looking on local websites for a used computer or laptop? I did a cursory search and come up with this Desktop:

http://www.expatriates.com/cls/25272420.html

Converting from SAR to USD, that thing costs $400, which is a pretty good deal for those specs. Looks like it might need a Graphics card though, as he doesn't list one. Still totally worth it.

There's also this laptop for $330:

http://www.expatriates.com/cls/25274833.html

Whilst not top of line by any means, it does have an alright Nvidia GPU, which according to this: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-540M.41715.0.html Should be enough for what you plan to do on it. You won't be able to play any brand new graphically intensive games on high, but you might be able to get away with low or medium settings. It can definitely play CS:GO, probably even on high.

 

[zerragonoss]

The reasons why I really don't want to build a gaming PC are these:
1. No stores sell parts in Riyadh (Not gonna buy something online)
2. No idea how to put them together
3. Small table
4. My family prefers laptops over dekstops.

It is no longer a huge saving to build your own desktop over buying a pre-built one any more. Most people left with a large interest in a gaming desktop tend to be people who can build their own, so companies had to drop prices to be competitive with a building your own. Your preferences or space concerns are still valid of course but you don't have to build your own PC to a good amount more power per dollar than a labtop.

For me 1000 dollars for a laptop is insane :/
I bought my laptop in 2012 for 600? and it's working just fine, I don't game on it too much, some League of Legends and Hearthstone mainly. Then everytime I want to replay WarcraftIII, but that game is like ancient ;D

You may want to convert your currency, if you convert the 600 pounds to us dollars you are actually at basically 1000$. No idea where OP is but, you may have just said I would never spend 1000$ on a labtop, I just bought mine for 1000$ which is just a tad silly.