What's so wrong with FFXII?

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Zeromaeus

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Ok. Alright. I get it. Most Final Fantasy fans seem to really dislike Final Fantasy XII. Why? What's so wrong with it? Why is it considered in such low regard? Seriously.

The main reason I ask is because I saw it as a rather solid Final Fantasy experience. The story was solid (even though Vaan didn't figure into it at all). The gameplay worked. Gambits were a neat feature. Hunts and side-quests were plentiful. The summons were awesome (although I missed Odin).

Seriously guys, what was wrong with Final Fantasy Twelve?
 

Carnagath

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Nothing? I loved it. Didn't care much for the story, but beating Yiazmat was probably the gaming highlight of the whole series imho.
 

Zeromaeus

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MaxTheReaper said:
Uh, well, if you're asking me personally, I'd have to say "It's a JRPG."

I've never heard of a fan actually complain about it, though.
I have and I honestly don't understand it. (thus the thread)
 

ravensshade

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APPCRASH said:
What's this? People have "opinions?"

God help us.
opinions are the spawn of hell appcrash

and there probably is nothing wrong with it but it some people probabbly just want more ff7...
 

GundamSentinel

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I have nothing to complain about it. Got some 200+ hour savegames and I'm proud of it. Liked the story, the characters were ok, liked the music, liked the quests.
 

sanomaton

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Um? I thought FF fans loved FFXII. I have never heard anyone complain about it and my friend (who is a fan) even said people are still loving that game. Well, that's all I can say since I have never played these games... Not my cup of tea.
 

BaldursBananaSoap

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It was good, but the main character was a **** who only seemed to be there for the ride and took a backseat to all the other characters.

Plus he was annoying. For example:

 

SovietSecrets

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I just hated the entire Gambit system. The only thing I had to do was just move the damn characters and let them have all the fun. That got boring quickly. Come to think of it now I should just probably take them off....
 

EnzoHonda

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The common complaints are actually some of the things I liked most.

Battle system: great to let them do most of the leveling-up for you. By FFXII I had gotten well and truly tired I pressing a button every time I wanted to attack some meaningless little monster.

Story: Some found it uninteresting, whereas I found it more grounded (same with the game world). Felt a little more "real world" or something. But then I've always like the "fighting the empire" parts of games more than the "battle the great evil monster of dhoom!" part.

Characters: No Waka's or Barret's to be sure, but good overall. I liked that Vaan's lack of usefulness to the story meant that you could put a bit more of yourself into the world. I had trouble with VII and VIII because the main characters were such emo-bitches that I couldn't respect them and they drowned-out any attempt for me to feel like I was in the world.
 

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Zeromaeus said:
Ok. Alright. I get it. Most Final Fantasy fans seem to really dislike Final Fantasy XII. Why? What's so wrong with it? Why is it considered in such low regard? Seriously.

The main reason I ask is because I saw it as a rather solid Final Fantasy experience. The story was solid (even though Vaan didn't figure into it at all). The gameplay worked. Gambits were a neat feature. Hunts and side-quests were plentiful. The summons were awesome (although I missed Odin).

Seriously guys, what was wrong with Final Fantasy Twelve?
The story left alot to be desired and was quite lacklustre, apart from the story arc's involving Balthier.
On the flipside I was a huge fan of the gameplay, and quite liked FFXII.
The new battle system really highlighted the potential that the new ff's could achieve.
 

Cherry Cola

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See it from the good side, it wasn't Eternal Sonata, so it's not the worst JRPG ever.
 

damselgaming

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I hated it because I had no problems with the old battle system, which FFX pefected. It just felt too much like an MMO for me to enjoy it. I also thought that the weird equipmemt locks and grid thingys were a step back from previous games. I played it for about 10 hours then sold it and have no intention of buying FFXIII, because they're obviously done with the aspects of the FF games that I enjoyed.
 

Ophiuchus

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I thought the combat system was terrible and the story did absolutely nothing to make me want to play it. Vaan was annoying, Balthier was even worse and that rabbit thing was just... I don't even have the words. I abandoned it about a third of the way through, probably less, but I've read up on what happens after that and I really don't feel like I missed out on anything.