What's your history with Gaming culture?

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Before everything was YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc. gaming culture was severally split. Its history started at the Arcade experiences, the gaming magazines, the early adoption of internet, when Internet became a standard, to Wi-Fi to social media and gaming forums. Are you even interested in learning about this history?

I have been playing video games for as long as I can remember, but being part of the culture surrounding it didn't happen until the end of 2012 [when the world ended], and I slowly gotten used to everything: the Let's Plays, the Forums, the communities, the reviewers and finally, here. But I want to hear about other people.

Why the sudden interest? Well, I have seen Game Theory's not-so-recent videos about how MMOs became mainstream and how the term "Let's Play" actually started in a Forum, with screenshots in the place of videos. And that made me realize I lost a lot of interesting stuff that happened when, examples include: the magazines such as Nintendo Power, Rare and Nintendo parting ways, Microsoft entering the console market, the Playstation 2 dominating the 'Golden Era' of gaming, webcomics, Newgrounds, the XBLA helping Indies become mainstream, World of Warcraft, The Club Nintendo, Sega's rise and fall, Factor 5, The Orange Box and FFVII revolutionizing the industry... I could list them all here, but the list would become too big.

Out of the things I listed, what was the biggest thing that happened after you became in touch with gaming? Is it even on the list? And where were you when some of these things happened? With me, it was the Mass Effect 3 ending, took me a while to undertand what had happened and why everybody was so upset, but eventually I did and have been interested ever since.
 

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Let's see...

The first thing I remember being a game changer (no pun) in the industry is the whole ratings thing, mostly kicked off by Mortal Kombat's home console debut. I also remember being thrilled that such a thing was able to change Nintendo's stance to allowing "mature" content, starting with MK2.

Things were generally more interesting and suspenseful back then as well. The internet was in diapers yet, which meant most (who am I kidding...all) of us kids got our gaming news by waiting for the latest EGM, Gamepro, Nintendo Power, etc issue to show up in our mailbox or the local bookstore. This was a time when there was a lot less bs and drama in the industry, not to mention games being released in "complete" form for one price.

That last part isn't all bad now though. I do like when games get continued support after launch. Really looking forward to the UC4 story DLC, mostly because I have a bit of a crush on Chloe.
 

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Been gaming for a while since when arcades were still the go to place to play. Difficult to say any strong impacts I remember industry wide sure there have been a few like MK and its ratings being one of the strong early ones but most including that are pretty small scale stuff.

Biggest things that have made me stand up and take notice are space invaders (got me into games) Super Mario Bros (really stepped up what games could actually be) FFVII (massively widened the cope of what games could be for me). Thats about it.
 

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I was on the NES era cusp, having one of the first releases as a kid, then the SEGA does what Nintendon't console wars, both major impacts on gaming. I played PC games too from the late 80s onward, with seeing Wolf3D/DOOM bring the FPS genre to life, then Quake more or less create multiplayer gaming online a major thing, with Team Fortress, CTF mods first showing their heads, then Counterstrike coming to Half-Life bringing PC competitions to a new level.
Final Fantasy VII basically changing the idea of console gaming being mostly 2D, PS2 rising, SEGA bowing out at the same time also major shifts in gaming. Been around for a lot of things, the advent of the 3D accelerator addon card then full blown GPU standalones taking gaming out of the blocky, pixelated ages...
30 years, including arcades to see all the various evolutions of gaming... long time.
 

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I've been gaming all my life (Well ever since I got a PS1 in '99) but I must say it got ''serious'' when I was 12 and got a Xbox 360 for christmas 2006. I started playing online and by 2008 I was pulled in to forums, GameTrailers being my first.
 

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played games since the days of pong and have seen all the panics, rise of genres, etc and used to consider myself a gamer but not anymore.

the gamergate thing killed any interest i had in the community for the most part.

i prefer my communities with less stress, less death threats and more inclusive. basically less full of total asshats
 

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I have been gaming since before I used toilets. My parents were gamers and they had put a NES in my room which I mostly played Mario Bros and Gauntlet on, as well as that X-Men game. I tried playing Duck Hunt many times, but never understood how it worked.

I also played on their SEGA Genesis, initially Rampart mostly, but when we moved a few times, eventually it ended up in the playroom/basement and I started cracking out on Sonic games.

The first time I probably felt a sense of community was the release of Pokemon. Before that it was mostly my family who I gamed with, and I bought games purely based on box art.

But then Pokemon hit and everyone was playing on their Gameboys and talking about everything Pokemon.

I still relied on mostly just box art for game purchases, but I did eventually get Electronic Gaming Monthly, and remember talking to other kids about gaming. I remember bragging in lunch in Elementary School of having a GameCube, PS2 AND Xbox to people.
 

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I hate to do this to him, but I was my brother's gaming punching bag. My bro is about 28 months older than me, and as such understood gaming and well fuck, motor functions way better than I. And I was used as basically the non existent 2nd player. He would use me as the dude who held the second player controller, on the occasion pressed a button, lost 99.99% of the time, then brag about it.

I'm talking like I was 5, and I didn't know how to read yet, and I was player 2 in Captain America [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America_and_The_Avengers] or Power Rangers [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Morphin_Power_Rangers_(video_game)]. I wasn't aware of the D-pad actually moving the character, and was expected to go toe-to-toe with my 7 year old brother. Fuck me I remember when Pokemon Blue/Red came out. We each got one(Blue FTW!!) and a connecting chord. And my lvl 3 man 20 something team against his 5 man 40s, and eventually his cheated lvl 201 Snorlax. Basically a Souls game before you know how to move your hands or what concepts are yet.

I remember once we were at it in Clay Fighters 63 1/3rd and I beat him. I don't remember who he was, but I was T-Hop and I beat him. Finally beat him. And he broke down crying. and I mean red face, uncontrollable sobbing. Wailing like a family pet just died. I was sent to our room and damn I don't remember if he stopped before nightfall.

After that we really didn't do versus again until Starcraft 2 Liberty. We bonded over co-op like Hexen 64 and Champions of Norrath, but there was always that edge. And I always felt like I did something wrong.

Maybe that's why I hate vs. games and would play any co-op game.
 

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Silentpony said:
I hate to do this to him, but I was my brother's gaming punching bag. My bro is about 28 months older than me, and as such understood gaming and well fuck, motor functions way better than I. And I was used as basically the non existent 2nd player. He would use me as the dude who held the second player controller, on the occasion pressed a button, lost 99.99% of the time, then brag about it.

I'm talking like I was 5, and I didn't know how to read yet, and I was player 2 in Captain America [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America_and_The_Avengers] or Power Rangers [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Morphin_Power_Rangers_(video_game)]. I wasn't aware of the D-pad actually moving the character, and was expected to go toe-to-toe with my 7 year old brother. Fuck me I remember when Pokemon Blue/Red came out. We each got one(Blue FTW!!) and a connecting chord. And my lvl 3 man 20 something team against his 5 man 40s, and eventually his cheated lvl 201 Snorlax. Basically a Souls game before you know how to move your hands or what concepts are yet.

I remember once we were at it in Clay Fighters 63 1/3rd and I beat him. I don't remember who he was, but I was T-Hop and I beat him. Finally beat him. And he broke down crying. and I mean red face, uncontrollable sobbing. Wailing like a family pet just died. I was sent to our room and damn I don't remember if he stopped before nightfall.

After that we really didn't do versus again until Starcraft 2 Liberty. We bonded over co-op like Hexen 64 and Champions of Norrath, but there was always that edge. And I always felt like I did something wrong.

Maybe that's why I hate vs. games and would play any co-op game.
I as an older sibling did this myself, though I think I was atleast slightly less awful. I do remember taking advantage of my ability to read over his inability to.

I also remember initially playing Gauntlet with him, though he usually just died.

Makes me wonder if I left him with any such baggage. Though ultimately we are very close due to our overall nerdyness and lack of others who appreciate what we do and like.
 

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I don't hate him, even a little. He's my older bro. He's Jay. We went to High school together. He was Captain of the Rugby team before I was. His trophy for Tackler of the Year is followed by mine.
I no more blame him for the shit he did when we was 7, over 20 years ago, than I do blame myself for I dunno, fucking up the Water Temple when I was 7. He was a kid, I was a kid! Probably would have done the same had our situations been reversed.

But I do carry a...taint about versus play. I hate it. Like Iago hated Othelo. I'd concoct an elaborate year old revenge scheme against vs. games if I could. Co-op is my drug. Left 4 Dead, Killing Floor, etc...

Fuck me I guess it's a mental thing, like the only time I feel safe playing a multiplayer game. Knowing that someone ten levels above me isn't against me.
 

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Always as an arcade rat, even my first job was at an arcade. Gamers were generally okay, except for the guys who didn't ask if you wanted a surprised two player vs, the dudes who just found out about stick bombs, or the guys who who either creeped out that gals on the DDR machine or figured the only reason for ladies to show up was because they wanted a boyfriend. Once thins went digital, I started hanging out on a tabletop RPG forum that has video games as a sub forum. Much stronger moderation, so discussions there then to be quite a bit more in depth and positive though is at risk for occasional navel-gazing. After a few years there, I found out about Zero Punctuation and started watching all of them. So, spent a few years lurking around here, feeling the site out, getting the lay of the land.

The general response on the forums about some of the stupider gamer schisms gave me a fairly positive view of the forums, and the initial response August 2014 had me finally making an account. The rest is history. (And probably collected on a google doc somewhere.)
 

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Cookie Monster Munch and Combat on the 2600, Donkey Kong and Centipede in the arcade standing on chairs to reach the controls.

Number Munchers, Odell Lake, Oregon Trail, and Mickey's Space Adventure.
 

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My history of gaming culture is really my history with gaming, I'll try to truncate it but it's gonna be a long tale, sit down kids.

My first console was a NES, I didn't actually get one until the SNES was already a thing, probably the reason I got one at all to be honest. It was a hand-me-down from my older cousin, along with a handful of games, none of which really stuck with me. My dad really pulled me into gaming with RPGs, mostly by happenstance as he knew I liked the fantasy genre, movies, books, TV, and so on. So he got games with a fantasy twist to them, which happened to be RPGs, Final Fantasy, Dragon Warrior, Ultima, etc.

Well it wasn't long after that I got really into playing games, VERY into it in fact. I would sometimes go to the store and see a Nintendo Power and my parents would get it for me, I never had a subscription to the magazine but I had some early good ones. Later on I got a Gameboy and a Super Nintendo, and was really developing my gamer identity and what kinds of games I liked. I remember an early Nintendo Power article, I think called Pak Watch that previewed upcoming games showing The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening for Gameboy, and after playing it realizing that many of the screenshots shown in the pak watch weren't actually in game. Early on in games, I was enthralled by the magic of it, never really thinking so much of them as "designed" experiences, but as actual worlds that contained more than what was just being shown. I remember playing a game on SNES, Secret of Evermore where in a forest there were lots of signs pointing to locations, all of which were just comical names and a little humor in the game, but I remember writing these places down in a notebook imagining they were real parts of the game.

It wasn't until about 1996 when I picked up a gaming magazine (not sure which one but it covered all consoles, kind of like Game Informer) and saw a preview of Final Fantasy VII that things really changed and got shook up. I remember seeing commercials for the Playstation on TV before but it didn't even really click with me that it was a full on game console. I also saw previews for Oddworld. I remember getting really into wanting both these games, and in Christmas of 1997 I got a PS1 with both Oddworld and Final Fantasy VII, and I was blown away by it. Those articles in the magazine, the previews and the multi page spreads really communicated to me this idea of games as designed experiences, especially as they were talking about Final Fantasy VII's departure from the previous games in the series (up until this point I'd only played the NES original).

Around that same time my parents had gotten a PC, and one of the first games I got hooked on for it was Dungeon Keeper, and I played it a lot. When my dad finally upgraded to a newer PC, I got the old one and started getting more games for it, Diablo, Nox, Baldur's Gate, Lands of Lore, to name a few and started dabbling into the world of indie games with freeware titles I could download. I still had a big love of the old NES and SNES RPGs I grew up with though, and I looked for these kinds of games, and found ones that were made by others who loved the genre, small studios or just a lone programmer making games. This is when I really began getting curious about how games were made, and more importantly, if I could make my own.

My first real sense of online community was the RPG Toolkit, which was as it sounds a visual editor that let you make classic 8 and 16 bit style RPGs, very similar to the modern RPGMaker (at the time it was actually a much more powerful editor than RPGMaker, but that time is long past now with the likes of XP and VX). I became a member of the RPGToolkit Forums, and while I dabbled making my own games, I stop-started about 30 different projects across a few years, I ended up spending more time online in the community than I ever did making games. Just being able to share this love of RPGs with other people was great, and I had a real sense of community with other kids my age wanting to do the same thing I did, become a game developer. Towards the end of this period I got a Playstation 2.

My PS2 days were a bit more blurry for whatever reason (those dang teenage hormones) but I remember having a subscription to GameInformer, going to Gamestop to buy games, and where I started transitioning more towards being a PC Gamer with games like Neverwinter Nights and Morrowind. I remember first hearing about Morrowind on a Gamespot TV episode with Adam Sessler, where he showed some trick you could do to make enemies giant. I thought the game looked awesome and went to try it. I got it, and tried to play it using a crummy on-board mobo graphics chip, and it worked... for about 15 to 30 minutes at a time, then I'd crash HARD, blue screen of death or just instant reset. I still was so enamored with the game I must have put hundreds of hours into it before I ever got a Graphics Card finally and was able to play it without crashing. Then I discovered the realm of modding, and began downloading mods like crazy altering the game. Combined with my love for creating things I played around with the Creation Kit that came with the game and then got involved a lot with the online Morrowind community (back when Fishy Sticks were still a thing). I of course got super hyped when I saw the Oblivion preview in Game Informer, and it became the next big thing for me, and I got just as addicted as I had with Morrowind, modding it and playing for hundreds of hours.

Then World of Warcraft. Oh I'd heard about this game a bit, but I was rather dismissive of paid subscription game services. I was a young adult at this point, had my first job working at a truck stop diner. I remember seeing a trucker in there one day, with a nice laptop playing a game, I asked him what it was and he said World of Warcraft. I was very intrigued by the little bit I saw. It wasn't until a friend of mine bought Warcraft III and gave me the "free trial CD" for the game though that I fell into it. I got hooked right away and for the next couple of years I got very addicted to the game. I became pretty active in the forums, and played it just about every day. I got in towards the middle of the Burning Crusade expansion. I was getting a bit disillusioned with the game about half-way through the next expansion, Wrath of the Lich King (right after Ulduar patch) and left it for another way more indie MMO called Darkfall, once again becoming involved in it's community. I snuck back into WoW a couple of times, usually after a new expansion, but it never roped me in fully again.

2011 was also when I found The Escapist, I can't recall what brought me here originally, but I don't think I was highly active for the first few years. Around the end of 2011 is when I finally broke my MMO kick, with 2 games, Minecraft, and Skyrim. To be honest I couldn't play Skyrim at first because I was living temporarily way out in the country with dial-up and Steam just doesn't work with such a slow connection so I couldn't install and play it. By 2012 when I finally moved somewhere that I could play it, I got hooked, between it and Minecraft I probably spent a good year just bouncing between those games, occasionally dipping my toes into others. I got into their communities of course, but I spent way more time playing the games.

Skyrim got me to install Steam on my computer, then I purchased Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Terraria, and Gnomoria and really had a blast playing all of them... then July 2013 hit and my first experience with a Steam sale. I entered a 2 year phase where I went crazy hog wild on Steam. I now have a steam library of over 900 games. I would pour through bundle sites, wait for sales, and just got insane deals on things. I finally broke out of that Steam Disease realizing I had way more games than I ever could or would play. That relentless search for new game deals and learning about games really burst open the internet for me. I got more into youtube, I found reddit, I became more active on The Escapist, and developed an avid interest in the business side of gaming.

Now today I'm definitely still heavily interested in gaming culture and it's future. Following the likes of the Nintendo Switch, and seriously considering buying a Playstation Vita to round out my handheld collection. I have experienced a lot of big events in gaming, but so much of it also passed me by without me noticing, and in some ways this is probably a good thing. My late entrance into keeping track of gaming news allowed me a lot of unique perspectives. Enjoying Fable without the hype of Molyneux, experiencing Minecraft before it became popular to make fun of people that played it, playing Baldur's Gate back before it got enhanced and re-released, and so on.

My exposure to the culture of gaming was often very isolationist, staying in forums and communities centered around one particular game, and in many ways I still do that, just with many more communities and far less lurking per capita. It wasn't really until my first exposure to Steam that I became heavily involved with the wider world of internet gaming culture though. On a local level, I never really connected to very many people who were into the same kinds of games as me, at least not growing up. My Dad was the biggest sounding board, as he also enjoyed RPGs and we would often talk about the retro games we liked and the mechanics of them. There was also my best friend growing up, who would often spend weekends at my house where we'd play games. Instead of couch co-op games or competitive party games, we'd play RPGs and developed a strong interest together in the genre and had a lot of fun playing them together.

Apologies for the long winded and winding nature of this, very much typing as I think of it. Always good to reminisce and see how other's experiences differed and were similar to your own. I am 31 years old now, and have been gaming for at least 23 years.
 

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I've been familiar with the gaming culture during the Gameboy/ SNES era when my brother owned those console. I have been riding on its making til this present day. Well ok maybe not so much during the SNES era cos I was little but I do recalled my bro playing the SNES alot but it was when I bought an Nintendo Colors that I was more of an gamer.
 

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aozgolo said:
That was the most interesting story so far, and the thing in the 7th paragraph about your PS2 days being blurry seems to be the case for a lot of people. I use Crash Course Gaming, Did You Know Gaming and the Gaming Historian to keep me informed on the past, then I have Jim Sterling and Yahtzee to keep me informed on recent and not-so-recent events of the last few years, but there isn't enough talk about the PS2/GC/XboX period... anywhere. YouTube and other social networks only started during/after the shift to the PS3/360/Wii era and a lot of Forums of the time seem to be no more. Since there is no offical track record of gaming industry, my best bet is to dive into Wayback Machine with no leads and hope for the best.
 

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Igor-Rowan said:
aozgolo said:
That was the most interesting story so far, and the thing in the 7th paragraph about your PS2 days being blurry seems to be the case for a lot of people. I use Crash Course Gaming, Did You Know Gaming and the Gaming Historian to keep me informed on the past, then I have Jim Sterling and Yahtzee to keep me informed on recent and not-so-recent events of the last few years, but there isn't enough talk about the PS2/GC/XboX period... anywhere. YouTube and other social networks only started during/after the shift to the PS3/360/Wii era and a lot of Forums of the time seem to be no more. Since there is no offical track record of gaming industry, my best bet is to dive into Wayback Machine with no leads and hope for the best.
This time period was a big change in the way online communities worked. This was really at the very beginning of social media, and probably the last time we saw a real delineation between console communities. By that I mean while we still have people with console favorites, there weren't that many cross-platform games, especially not between consoles and PCs, so their communities were largely divided. With the Seventh Generation being way more cross platform, and social media being the big thing, a lot of those smaller communities fizzled out and died as more inclusive and broader communities took their place.

I can't really comment too heavily on what the full spectrum of these communities were like, much of my knowledge of them is anecdotal. The only communities I really frequented during my PS2 days were The Elder Scrolls, which is still around but in a much different type of incarnation than when I was active.
 

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My history with gaming culture started in forums and will likely end there. I've played a long line of MMOs. When devs become too unwilling to change their product or the community becomes too toxic and separated, that's where my interest in the culture ends. I have my opinions on a variety of subjects but will not step on somebody else's to my benefit. It's often in the newer games that you meet some of the nicer people because these are the refugees, the players that escaped a cesspool to create a safe haven. But to keep that haven safe, they must forever be vigilant.

I don't have a cell phone, I don't have a facebook page. I only have a twitter account to comment on this or that TV show whose own forums might be linked to the service. So I cannot speak of gaming culture on those terms. My interactions with the larger scandals have only been to point out logical fallacies. I like being the objective third party when these things come up. I treat arguments around me, at work or at home, much the same way, as if I'm watching a talk show live. Sometimes I even bring snacks!
 

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I remember looking longingly at arcade machines as a kid, but never really got to play videogames until about the age of 11 with Windows 95's Hover. I had a friend who had all the consoles, so I grew up with Goldeneye. I didn't really engage with the "culture" until I started playing Team Fortress 2 a decade later, and the Escapist was my first foray into discussing gaming nine years ago. I've stuck with the forums here, but I also pop over to RockPaperShotgun for deeper commentary pieces. I probably spend more time reading and arguing about games than playing them these days, due to lack of a convenient amount of time to devote to playing the damn things.
 
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While I've played computer games since I was a young teenager, they were just another toy, coming to the Escapist was my first contact with gaming culture. I watch a couple of YouTube channels as well but that's about as far as I'm willing to dip my toes in the water.
If the Escapist had carried on like it was before Susan Arendt left things might have been different and the events of late 2014 made great popcorn threads but ultimately...Well, yeah...
As for the things you mentioned I only remember FFVII. I was a 20 yo lad who's interests were drugs, techno and women who like drugs and techno. I still played the occasional computer game and FFVII was supposedly the second coming. It was not to my taste.