When does a robot become human

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theloneassassin

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Would you consider a robot who has emotion and rationality and reasoning human? What about if it had a human like exterior? What makes us human is the way our mind works, our early evolution stages were not human because they did not think like us or behave like us.
 

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ravensheart18 said:
No. To be human they would have to be genetically human.

A more reasonable question would be at would point would you consider them to be sentient and entitle to rights similar to humans.
Well that's what i was trying to say :D thanks
 

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It never will...

If a machine was sophisticated to warrant comparisons to how humans function, why stop there? A robots evolution may be limitless, ours, if we even survive the next 150 years, is not worth settling for. A robot could become more capable than a human in every conceivable way so why limit that potential?
 

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Would I consider them human? no. Would I Treat a fully sentient "robot" as if it is alive and deserving rights? most likely yeah I would. Though at no point would I pretend it is human as indeed if it were alien life I would not.

I wouldn't call it "human" because lets face it, it might find that an insult. In order to be human you need to be a homo sapiens. It would be whatever it's name is to me, we would just need to allow human rights to become sentient rights if you will.

I also agree with the question of at what point is one conisdered sentient enough to be allowed the same rights as we.
 

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It will never be human. Intelligent, yes, but it will never have a human genetic structure, or be able to breed with other humans, and therefore it will never be human.
 

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TheDist said:
Would I consider them human? no. Would I Treat a fully sentient "rotbot" as if it is alive and deserving rights? most likely yeah I would. Though at no point would I pretend it is human as indeed if it were alien life I would not.

I wouldn't call it "human" because lets face it, it might find that an insult. In order to be human you need to be a homosapien. It would be whatever it's name is to me, we would just need to allow human rights to become sentient rights if you will.

I also agree with the question of at what point is one conisdered sentient enough to be allowed the same rights as we.
Let's take a human, tore apart from a grenade or whatever we have all played those games, what if his entire brain was destroyed and they used AI to replace it... or just his reasoning and emotion was destroyed, but he thought like a robot being and have the same perceptions as one. Would he be human?
 

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When I see actual tears after I beat if for not making my sammich right.

I think the moment a robot has a spontaneous emotional reaction to something is the moment it becomes something more than a Robot. It will never be a human, but it will occupy that gray middle ground. "We will call them Thirds"
 

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TheDist said:
I also agree with the question of at what point is one conisdered sentient enough to be allowed the same rights as we.
Perhaps when the first robot makes a conscious decision to sacrifice it's own life to save a human life as a result of a genuine emotional response...

That'd make an awesome film actually... Hollywood get on this shiz!
 

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VincentX3 said:
When he's able to see the number 2 and not BSOD
Hey at the end of the day all humans are are AT and GC, so effectively we are just complicated robots!
 

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theloneassassin said:
Firetaffer said:
VincentX3 said:
When he's able to see the number 2 and not BSOD
Hey at the end of the day all humans are are AT and GC, so effectively we are just complicated robots!
Lol I am glad you made the genetics reference! thanks :)
But we can cry and be manly :mad:
I dare YOUR robot to cry... or be manly
Croaker42 said:
When I see actual tears after I beat if for not making my sammich right.
Or that!
 

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theloneassassin said:
TheDist said:
Would I consider them human? no. Would I Treat a fully sentient "rotbot" as if it is alive and deserving rights? most likely yeah I would. Though at no point would I pretend it is human as indeed if it were alien life I would not.

I wouldn't call it "human" because lets face it, it might find that an insult. In order to be human you need to be a homosapien. It would be whatever it's name is to me, we would just need to allow human rights to become sentient rights if you will.

I also agree with the question of at what point is one conisdered sentient enough to be allowed the same rights as we.
Let's take a human, tore apart from a grenade or whatever we have all played those games, what if his entire brain was destroyed and they used AI to replace it... or just his reasoning and emotion was destroyed, but he thought like a robot being and have the same perceptions as one. Would he be human?
The body would be homo sapiens, the brain would not be, the bigger question is more, is it humane to make a human into a robot in any sence. Would they be human in such a situation, no I don't think so. Assuming it was fully/totaly sentient however I would indeed give it all the same respect/rights as a human. It would be a cyborg maybe for lack of a better word.
 

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for me to consider a machine a human it would have to be at human cylon lvl



oh yeah a robot so sophisticated it reproduces human like attributes down to a genetic lvl


though right on the border line i might consider a robot with human like emotions and grafted cloned human body parts human or at least close enough not to mater
 

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They would earn when they have been programmed to expierence thoughts and emotions as unque as ours. But science can only go so far. Also, a lot of people would likely refuse to give them rights.
 

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Unless they have organs and dna robots will never be genuine humans.

When will robots be capable of independent (reflexive to the great question, and such. Easy-mode version being able to recognize yourself in a mirror) and adaptive thought, the two determining factors of sentience. Chances are actually pretty slim for it happening soon.

While it may seem as though a robot would be capable of these things, they would only be performing them on a VERY basic and logical level. The fact is simply it is impossible for a robot to realize and contemplate its own existence. A robot simply CANNOT examine reality, as its thoughts are patterns of logic, and existence itself is illogical.

At Bahumat.
Consciousness being downloaded will probably never happen due to the risks involved in initial testing, and the major disparities between individual brains; And that's just the mechanical barrier XD

Also, if this somehow happened I would argue they are no longer human, as they lack all human characteristics outside of thought, which is not really a defining factor of life in general.

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